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Wynne's Carbon Tax

Marcus1027

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Even though I left Ontario 6 months ago, I still like to peek in and see the state of the liberal train wreck. I almost fell off my chair this morning when I read that Ontario is planning a "carbon tax" for later this year. What is with this woman, has she lost all grip on reality? Yhis has to be the apex of political cynicism Ontario is going it alone on a carbon tax under the guise of reducing greenhouse gas emissions, what a crock of shit! Without federal involvement and te involvement of all the other provinces and for that mater the entire USA, this plan is just a tax grab disguised as a "green initiative". Just come out and say you've made a mess of the books, you've squandered billions and now you're flat broke and need more of the tax payer's hard earned money to keep from going insolvent.

Ontario is about to shoot itself in the foot once again with a tax regime that nobody else has to contend with. This coupled with the fact that there'll another tax grab in 2017 with the ontario pension plan, the province is going out of it's way to kill off business and jobs. I do t understand if this is just a case of complete ineptitude and lack of understanding of economic realities or if it's simply policy driven dogma that drives this party? Either way, the tax will come in, money collected will simply go into general revenues and wasted, GHG will not be reduced and Kathleen Wynne won't single handedly save the planet. What this does is give more ammunition to Stephen Harper in the upcoming election. Remember, Trudeau has stated he's commited to "putting a price on carbon, read new tax) so this is great new for Harper as this will be an unpopular tax, still fresh on the minds of Ontario voters. Not to mention that was no mention of a new tax during the last election. Between Wynne, Sousa, Chiarelli and Murray Ontario has a stable of four complete incompetents running major portfolios that they clearly have no business running, Ontaio will soon be what Newfoundland was prior to discovering oil, an economi basket case relying on federal handouts, and you all did it to yourselves by voting for these cretins. Looks like good times ahead for socialist Ontario.
 

saxon

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The entire carbon tax fiasco has been an absolute failure in Europe where energy costs for the average citizen has skyrocketed and done nothing to reduce pollution or greenhouse gasses.
 

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The entire carbon tax fiasco has been an absolute failure in Europe where energy costs for the average citizen has skyrocketed and done nothing to reduce pollution or greenhouse gasses.
Sounds perfect for the Liberals!
 

saxon

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Not only has it been a failure in Europe but last year the Australian government scrapped their carbon tax when they finally figured out it was harming their economy and doing nothing for lowering emissions.
 

squeezer

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I hope they reconsider the carbon tax. It's a ridiculous idea, especially prior to the Federal election. Wynne can't afford to taint Justin.
 

Marcus1027

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Harper is going to have a field day with this one, not only had Wynne come out saying she's going to bring in a carbon tax but Trudeau categorically stated that he intends to it a price on carbon, why's was in Calgary last summer addressing the Petroleum Club. This is a regressive tax where those in lower in me brackets will feel it the most.

Let's put this in perspective for someone who isn't a downtown Toronto dwelling hipster. You're an average middle class family with kids in organized sports, you have to drive to a couple hockey practices and games, another child is in swimming etc. You have to drive there, you can't take a bus or subway. All of a sudden the drop in oil prices have given you a break at the pump, you have more money in your pocket Nd along come the liberals and take that break away with the first carbon tax and you're pissed. The federal election comes along and there's anothet liberal proposing yet another carbon tax. Guess who Mr & Mrs suburban Ontario husband and wife are voting for come Oct 18? Let me give you a hint, it wnt be Justin.
 

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Actually Prime Minister Harper himself seemed positive toward a carbon price / levy / tax? in his year-end interview with Peter Mansbridge. He dances around the wording of it at around 6:20 of the video http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ful...dge-s-interview-with-stephen-harper-1.2876934 .

Perhaps, but Harper isn't stupid enough or smug enough to throw it out on the eve of an election. If Wynne is stupid enough to go through with this regressive tax she all but gift wrapped the federal election for Harper. Perhaps voters have a hard time wrapping thier heads around the billions of dollars the liberal wasted, but when they go to fill up their cars, they all see that pie chart on the pump and the pie just added another slice & color and another 10 cents/ litre. Come election time these same voters will be reminded how Trudeau promised a federal carbon tax and that 10 cents/litre all of a sudden become 20 cents/litre brought to you by your less than friendly neighbourhood Liberal. So yes, this Wynne brain fart will taint Trudeau. Someone has to explain how this tax will reduce greenhouse gas, trucks and trains will continue delivering food to your grocery store, farmers will still have to use tractors to grow that food, you'll still have to drive to buy said food.
Will this tax be applied to the home heating oil, natural gas we need to heat our homes? Will public transit be exempt, after all buses run on diesel. How will this revenue stream be used to reduce greenhouse gases? The answer is it won't, it undoubtedly be used to subsidize more wind turbines or payoff public sector unions for thier support in the last election. Kathleen Wynne will prove to unseat Bob Rae as the worst political experiment in the history of this province, her mistakes will take a generation to undo as it took a generation to undo the misdeeds of another Liberal, namely Trudeau Sr., the worst PM in modern Canadian history.
 

JohnLarue

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I hope they reconsider the carbon tax. It's a ridiculous idea, especially prior to the Federal election. Wynne can't afford to taint Justin.
Do not worry Justin will taint himself
He will need no help
 

happ

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Classic Wynne-Justin. She calls it carbon pricing rather than what it is a gas tax. What a filthy cunt.
 

squeezer

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Do not worry Justin will taint himself
He will need no help
Perhaps but Harpo is feeling the heat and it shows , Fantino being switched, Leatherface Smith stepping down prior to the next election and probably much more shuffling coming prior to the fall of 2015. I'm praying for Duffy surviving until the court date so he can release some skeletons hiding deep in the Reformer's closets.

Since Leatherface Smith is stepping down maybe she'll let Mackay off the hook with whatever she has on him and it must be something juicy because he acted like her puppet on a string.
 

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Perhaps but Harpo is feeling the heat and it shows , Fantino being switched, Leatherface Smith stepping down prior to the next election and probably much more shuffling coming prior to the fall of 2015. I'm praying for Duffy surviving until the court date so he can release some skeletons hiding deep in the Reformer's closets.

Since Leatherface Smith is stepping down maybe she'll let Mackay off the hook with whatever she has on him and it must be something juicy because he acted like her puppet on a string.
Don't bet on the Duffy trial. His health/heart is bad enough that the trial may be delayed.

If she does introduce the carbon tax they way Junior has tied himself to her will hurt him bad.
 

squeezer

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Don't bet on the Duffy trial. His health/heart is bad enough that the trial may be delayed.

If she does introduce the carbon tax they way Junior has tied himself to her will hurt him bad.
I am very worried about Duffy's health and I do agree a carbon tax would hurt the Lib's chances in the Federal election especially if and when gas spikes back up to the $1.30 plus mark. You do know that Harpo has also floated the idea as well??
 

K Douglas

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The Wynne Liberals have completely lost touch with reality. Shame on the citizens of this once great province for being so stupid in voting these jokers into a majority after all the shit they pulled. I still can't believe it happened.
 

JohnLarue

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Perhaps but Harpo is feeling the heat and it shows ,
More wishful think on your part
Just because you want something does not mean it is fact
This coming election will be dependant of the economic situation
The states economy is revving up and as they go so does the Canadian economy so it may be a matter of timing
 
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The Wynne Liberals have completely lost touch with reality. Shame on the citizens of this once great province for being so stupid in voting these jokers into a majority after all the shit they pulled. I still can't believe it happened.
I wouldn't be too hard on the general population,... but Hudak,...and civil servant unions,...now that's another whole can of worms.

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squeezer

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More wishful think on your part
Just because you want something does not mean it is fact
This coming election will be dependant of the economic situation
The states economy is revving up and as they go so does the Canadian economy so it may be a matter of timing
Target is pulling out (yes it was bad business planning on their part, not Happ's delusional theory) , the oil companies are laying off lots of workers because of the price of a barrel and the stock markets are tanking (have you seen the safe go to banking stocks as of late) so I wouldn't exactly count on the public shouting out Harpo's name.
 

JohnLarue

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Target is pulling out (yes it was bad business planning on their part, not Happ's delusional theory) , the oil companies are laying off lots of workers because of the price of a barrel and the stock markets are tanking (have you seen the safe go to banking stocks as of late) so I wouldn't exactly count on the public shouting out Harpo's name.
Target screwed up their entry into the market.
It is a headline and a lesson in how not to manage. However it is not a reflection of the economy.

Low oil prices hurts Alberta, Sask & the newfies & perhaps the Feds
It is a net benefit for central Canada, which is where the election will be won or lost

Unless the US recovery gets derailed it is a matter of time before Ontario sees an increase in activity
As I said it will all come down to timing

Your example of economic activity (Target??) indicate that economics is another field you are woefully ill quipped to pass judgment on
 

squeezer

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Squeezer said:
Target is pulling out (yes it was bad business planning on their part, not Happ's delusional theory) ,

Your example of economic activity (Target??) indicate that economics is another field you are woefully ill quipped to pass judgment on
I know reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits because if it were, you would have noticed my explanation for the Target debacle and even you would have to admit the job losses resulting from Target pulling out does not help the economy , at least not in my world. It's very common for fanatical right wingers to pull what they perceive as facts out of their ass, carry on Johnny.
 
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