Well, I haven't been inside the boardrooms of Loblaws or Westons in about 15 years, but I've always maintained that you buy groceries at a grocery store. Even with their huge size, I never can seem to get everything at one store and have to go to someplace else to finish my food shopping. I tend tend to like real food. Yet they do make great cookies.
Loblaws Strike
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I certainly would like to know how you arrive at 1 in 4 (in US?). Even in a pure police state like East Germany in it's heyday, it was 1 in 5 formally and 1 in 2 if you counted informants.It's all about protecting the 'Haves & the Have Mores' from the peasants!....
This is why LE job standards are low.
The 'Haves & the Have Mores' want to insure their tools in LE stay clueless as to their real purpose......
We were dealing with those LE happy to pull 'guard duty like work' which you probably just qualify for.
Now be gone little one and get your free coffee and donut......
Here's the link from the other poster.....
http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/article-5188-born-poor.html
Knock yourself out officer.....
I don't like donuts and don't knock pay duty. At time and a half (?) it's a great gig. That why that line up for it, but take time to get it and then you back down the ladder to the bottom.We were dealing with those LE happy to pull 'guard duty like work' which you probably just qualify for.
Now be gone little one and get your free coffee and donut......
Ah, New Mexico. Where men are men and sheep are nervous. Hide the rubber boots Martha.Here's the link from the other poster.....
http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/article-5188-born-poor.html
Knock yourself out officer.....
Try again officer....you were getting too JAJAesque for me to cypher what you meant!.....
I'm guessing you don't know how pay duty works, or it would quite clear. It's used in the police, the movie industry to a lesser degree, and a number of union shops; although most of them go on seniority.Try again officer....you were getting too JAJAesque for me to cypher what you meant!.....
Seniority rules.....
This is the best protection from Corporate and Governmental caprice/abuse.....
Even if the senior guy is not the best man for the job at hand. We're beginning to get the picture Woodie.Seniority rules.....
This is the best protection from Corporate and Governmental caprice/abuse.....
EVERY man has a spot/job for him, EVERYONE!
The only picture YOU display is why LE standards are low, hoping you are incapable of seeing that!
Those that are not the brightest bulbs on the tree are exploited/USED in their old 'pit one worker against another worker' thingy! Smarten up and don't be their dupe.....
Wha? You' better start pulling out your fridge magnets again. Your thought processes are slipping something fierce.EVERY man has a spot/job for him, EVERYONE!
The only picture YOU display is why LE standards are low, hoping you are incapable of seeing that!
Those that are not the brightest bulbs on the tree are exploited/USED in their old 'pit one worker against another worker' thingy! Smarten up and don't be their dupe.....
You must have lost a couple of them though I have heard you use GOPers in awhile.
B
burt-oh-my!
Well, the union dues can easily take 10 - 15% of wages, in, ironically, one of the most REGRESSIVE tax regimes ever created - by the unions themselves! It's so friggin ironic - in a union such as Loblaws, it purely comes to the poor (minimum wage new employees who won't benefit from even a successful stroke) supporting th erich - the older, higher-paid members.
There is no upside to moving to a service based economy. Sorry, but your comment leavest the impression that there is one.
If we don't make a concerted effort to stop this decline in living standards, then we're all in deep doo doo eventually. Poor people won't long stand to pay teachers 100 grand at full pension and a nice paid multiple month vacation for long...sorry, but that's just political reality.
This is a Canadian labor dispute, with issues you probably do not understandWelcome to the 'Race To The Bottom'.
We are going through these convulsions in the USA currently!
Nothing to worry about though, at least this is what our Corporatist friends say.
Our Globalist friends on the right claim many new great high paying jobs will be created to replace all the good jobs they are destroying of you and your kids. Only problem is we are still waiting for them 'jobs promised' to be created down here! So all we do down here is keep extending UI benefits till our Globalist pals create all them great jobs they have been spouting about the last several years!....
(We even spell "labor" differently).
I guess you get all excited every time you see the word "strike" and instantly have an opinion despite not knowing any (or all) of the facts
Since you do not know
a) the history of the company/union relationship or
b) the details of any offer
How can you possibly make an informed decision about who to support ?
Your "The left must be correct despite any unknown facts" proves how objective (not) you are with respect to labor issues.
It also highlights the value of your opinion (zero).
Frenchy our Resident Management poop-boy
Wondered how long it would take Frenchy to start spouting his Company crap!
His credibilty is ZERO for the middle class and 100% for the 'Haves & Have Mores'.....
Here's a timely piece from Yahoo News (a right leaning news service of late).
Yahoo is saying and confirms what I have been saying for the last few years!
Johnny being a good corporate lackey is in total denial to REALITY as he continues to shill corporate crap!....
This is what the USA is going through right now and it ain't pretty.
Basically the USA is imploding!
If you swallow the crap Frenchy LaRue is peddling, this is what is in store for Canada!
The Middle Class in America Is Radically Shrinking. Here Are the Stats to Prove it
From The Business Insider
Editor's note: Michael Snyder is editor of theeconomiccollapseblog.com
The 22 statistics detailed here prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence in America.
The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer at a staggering rate. Once upon a time, the United States had the largest and most prosperous middle class in the history of the world, but now that is changing at a blinding pace.
So why are we witnessing such fundamental changes? Well, the globalism and "free trade" that our politicians and business leaders insisted would be so good for us have had some rather nasty side effects. It turns out that they didn't tell us that the "global economy" would mean that middle class American workers would eventually have to directly compete for jobs with people on the other side of the world where there is no minimum wage and very few regulations. The big global corporations have greatly benefited by exploiting third world labor pools over the last several decades, but middle class American workers have increasingly found things to be very tough.
Here are the statistics to prove it:
• 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
• 61 percent of Americans "always or usually" live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
• 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
• 36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.
• A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
• 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
• Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
• Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
• For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
• In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
• As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
• The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
• Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
• In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60% MORE than the average worker in the private sector.
• The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
• In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
• More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
• or the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011.
• This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
• Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
• Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
• The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.
Giant Sucking Sound
The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. After all, what corporation in their right mind is going to pay an American worker 10 times more (plus benefits) to do the same job? The world is fundamentally changing. Wealth and power are rapidly becoming concentrated at the top and the big global corporations are making massive amounts of money. Meanwhile, the American middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence as U.S. workers are slowly being merged into the new "global" labor pool.
What do most Americans have to offer in the marketplace other than their labor? Not much. The truth is that most Americans are absolutely dependent on someone else giving them a job. But today, U.S. workers are "less attractive" than ever. Compared to the rest of the world, American workers are extremely expensive, and the government keeps passing more rules and regulations seemingly on a monthly basis that makes it even more difficult to conduct business in the United States.
So corporations are moving operations out of the U.S. at breathtaking speed. Since the U.S. government does not penalize them for doing so, there really is no incentive for them to stay.
What has developed is a situation where the people at the top are doing quite well, while most Americans are finding it increasingly difficult to make it. There are now about six unemployed Americans for every new job opening in the United States, and the number of "chronically unemployed" is absolutely soaring. There simply are not nearly enough jobs for everyone.
Many of those who are able to get jobs are finding that they are making less money than they used to. In fact, an increasingly large percentage of Americans are working at low wage retail and service jobs.
But you can't raise a family on what you make flipping burgers at McDonald's or on what you bring in from greeting customers down at the local Wal-Mart.
The truth is that the middle class in America is dying -- and once it is gone it will be incredibly difficult to rebuild.
Wondered how long it would take Frenchy to start spouting his Company crap!
His credibilty is ZERO for the middle class and 100% for the 'Haves & Have Mores'.....
Here's a timely piece from Yahoo News (a right leaning news service of late).
Yahoo is saying and confirms what I have been saying for the last few years!
Johnny being a good corporate lackey is in total denial to REALITY as he continues to shill corporate crap!....
This is what the USA is going through right now and it ain't pretty.
Basically the USA is imploding!
If you swallow the crap Frenchy LaRue is peddling, this is what is in store for Canada!
The Middle Class in America Is Radically Shrinking. Here Are the Stats to Prove it
From The Business Insider
Editor's note: Michael Snyder is editor of theeconomiccollapseblog.com
The 22 statistics detailed here prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence in America.
The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer at a staggering rate. Once upon a time, the United States had the largest and most prosperous middle class in the history of the world, but now that is changing at a blinding pace.
So why are we witnessing such fundamental changes? Well, the globalism and "free trade" that our politicians and business leaders insisted would be so good for us have had some rather nasty side effects. It turns out that they didn't tell us that the "global economy" would mean that middle class American workers would eventually have to directly compete for jobs with people on the other side of the world where there is no minimum wage and very few regulations. The big global corporations have greatly benefited by exploiting third world labor pools over the last several decades, but middle class American workers have increasingly found things to be very tough.
Here are the statistics to prove it:
• 83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people.
• 61 percent of Americans "always or usually" live paycheck to paycheck, which was up from 49 percent in 2008 and 43 percent in 2007.
• 66 percent of the income growth between 2001 and 2007 went to the top 1% of all Americans.
• 36 percent of Americans say that they don't contribute anything to retirement savings.
• A staggering 43 percent of Americans have less than $10,000 saved up for retirement.
• 24 percent of American workers say that they have postponed their planned retirement age in the past year.
• Over 1.4 million Americans filed for personal bankruptcy in 2009, which represented a 32 percent increase over 2008.
• Only the top 5 percent of U.S. households have earned enough additional income to match the rise in housing costs since 1975.
• For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share of residential housing net worth in the United States than all individual Americans put together.
• In 1950, the ratio of the average executive's paycheck to the average worker's paycheck was about 30 to 1. Since the year 2000, that ratio has exploded to between 300 to 500 to one.
• As of 2007, the bottom 80 percent of American households held about 7% of the liquid financial assets.
• The bottom 50 percent of income earners in the United States now collectively own less than 1 percent of the nation’s wealth.
• Average Wall Street bonuses for 2009 were up 17 percent when compared with 2008.
• In the United States, the average federal worker now earns 60% MORE than the average worker in the private sector.
• The top 1 percent of U.S. households own nearly twice as much of America's corporate wealth as they did just 15 years ago.
• In America today, the average time needed to find a job has risen to a record 35.2 weeks.
• More than 40 percent of Americans who actually are employed are now working in service jobs, which are often very low paying.
• or the first time in U.S. history, more than 40 million Americans are on food stamps, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture projects that number will go up to 43 million Americans in 2011.
• This is what American workers now must compete against: in China a garment worker makes approximately 86 cents an hour and in Cambodia a garment worker makes approximately 22 cents an hour.
• Approximately 21 percent of all children in the United States are living below the poverty line in 2010 - the highest rate in 20 years.
• Despite the financial crisis, the number of millionaires in the United States rose a whopping 16 percent to 7.8 million in 2009.
• The top 10 percent of Americans now earn around 50 percent of our national income.
Giant Sucking Sound
The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. After all, what corporation in their right mind is going to pay an American worker 10 times more (plus benefits) to do the same job? The world is fundamentally changing. Wealth and power are rapidly becoming concentrated at the top and the big global corporations are making massive amounts of money. Meanwhile, the American middle class is being systematically wiped out of existence as U.S. workers are slowly being merged into the new "global" labor pool.
What do most Americans have to offer in the marketplace other than their labor? Not much. The truth is that most Americans are absolutely dependent on someone else giving them a job. But today, U.S. workers are "less attractive" than ever. Compared to the rest of the world, American workers are extremely expensive, and the government keeps passing more rules and regulations seemingly on a monthly basis that makes it even more difficult to conduct business in the United States.
So corporations are moving operations out of the U.S. at breathtaking speed. Since the U.S. government does not penalize them for doing so, there really is no incentive for them to stay.
What has developed is a situation where the people at the top are doing quite well, while most Americans are finding it increasingly difficult to make it. There are now about six unemployed Americans for every new job opening in the United States, and the number of "chronically unemployed" is absolutely soaring. There simply are not nearly enough jobs for everyone.
Many of those who are able to get jobs are finding that they are making less money than they used to. In fact, an increasingly large percentage of Americans are working at low wage retail and service jobs.
But you can't raise a family on what you make flipping burgers at McDonald's or on what you bring in from greeting customers down at the local Wal-Mart.
The truth is that the middle class in America is dying -- and once it is gone it will be incredibly difficult to rebuild.
Like I said, its a Canadian Issue
What you may or may not think is happening in the USA is of secondary consideration wrt this post.
It also makes for very boring reading as you keep spouting the same crapola over and over again
The sun does not revolve around the US
What you may or may not think is happening in the USA is of secondary consideration wrt this post.
It also makes for very boring reading as you keep spouting the same crapola over and over again
The sun does not revolve around the US
There are upsides and downsides to everything. To think otherwise is to believe the world is black and white, which is foolish and naive.
The argument for the move from primary and secondary industries to service-based industries is that service-based industries include "white collar", high tech, high educaton, high paying jobs. Working at McDonalds is not the advantage that moving to a service-based industry is meant to deliver. The idea is that we use the primary resources of other countries (thus conserving our own), manufactured into goods by low(er) paid workers in other countries (who, by doing so, can buy those goods back from us), while we retain the high(er) paying "knowledge" jobs at home. In other words, we design, manage, coordinate, etc., and the other poor(er) countries do the grunt work. That's the theory. And we are set up to be in that position via our high literacy rate, high post-secondary university education rate, higher standard of living and life expectancy, etc.
The low-paying service jobs at home are meant to be filled by immigrants. Just like the Irish and Italians did the grunt work when they first came to the Americas, now it's the turn of the Africans, Carribbeans, and South Americans to do the grunt work. You have to keep bringing in immigrants. To stop is to starve your economy of a low-level work force and "fuel" (in the form of ever-increasing numbers of consumers; capitalism doesn't work so well with a declining population...).
Which means, if you and your family have already lived in Canada for generations and you're still working at McDonalds or Tim Hortons, you're really doing something wrong and need to re-evaluate the decisions you and your family have been making. A minimal amount of effort and time will get you past the low-end service jobs. If you can't do that then, well, sorry to say but you're probably exactly where you belong in the social hierarchy. That said, I'm not talking about entry or exit level workers (i.e., students or retirees) working in low-end service jobs, I'm talking about workers in their prime working years.
