Thank you Charlotte for posting your experience, I don't want to be merely trite so I'm not going to write much, but again thank you.
Harvey Weinstein the serial sexual harasser.
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Yes after a few drinks and the real person comes out. Yet your conclusion is the opposite of what that looks like.
Charlotte didn't want it - tried to fight him off - but relented - submissive
Guy wanted sex - fought for it - aggressive - got it - dominant
Drunk people must be punished when they break the law - e.g. drunk driving, rape.
However, please don't argue that people behave the same when they're drunk as they do when sober. Mental state does matter because mental state impacts behavior as well as recollection.
You don't know what his mental state was, nor hers for that matter. This is why things like this belong in a court room, not on TERB, to pass judgement.
This is not a justification for rape. It is an acknowledgement of what happens quite often and an explanation for why it's common. It doesn't make it right, but it does give you tools to warn your daughters about the real dangers of mixing alcohol and boys, and being alone in a bedroom with a boy that's been aggressive with you the entire night, and can't seem to get the message that his advances are unwanted. It's an especially toxic mix for young folks because it's not just the sex alone but the desire for acceptance, status, and popularity that are at play.
It's interesting that the guy in her story did this while sharing a room with her in a house full of other people from the party. Pretty brazen. He was either drunk out of his proper mental state, or sober but lacking all morals without a care for potentially being called out as a rapist in front of his male and female friends, or he thought or convinced himself that she was ok with it. The next day he tells everyone that he slept with her. Not exactly something a rapist would want to advertise?
It was a well known 'Hollywood secret'. Something everyone knows but ignores. Watch Lauren Southern's video posted earlier. Mainstream tv shows even did comedy sketches about Harvey's pervy behavior years ago.
It's all part of a system of control of people in his industry. Actresses who refused to wear his wife's designs were blacklisted.
I'm absolutely going to pass judgement. Rape is evil and wrong. I'm judging you as well, for justifying and downplaying it.
I've gotten drunk many times in my life. Not once did I rape somebody. Nor did I steal anything. Nor drive drunk.
It's not an excuse, it's not a justification, it's just a crime.
Err, shouldn't you be referring directly to the explanations of the many actresses who said that they were harassed, but were previously afraid to come forward and not to one of your favourite "political commentators", Smallcock?
At this point, the truth is not only "out there" but it is in your living room, in your face and easily accessible directly from first hand participants.
They were afraid that their careers and lives would be ruined by a powerful man and that they would be ostracised by everyone lese they knew in the film industry. I don't need Lauren Southern to explain it to me.
Lauren goes beyond that analysis which we all know to be true.
It's one thing to for an actress starting out to be afraid of someone who has ultimate power over her career. It's another thing for established powerful men and women to ignore what's going on even when multitudes of them know about it.
That's what you say. Let us ask all the women in your life about whether they agree.
So it seems that actresses willing to offer sex got further ahead than prudes and it had being going on for decades. I wonder what all these Hollywood movies would look like if prudes did not have a disadvantage.
I'm not gonna justify rape. But surely there was a whole lot of trading sex for promotion going on. Which I'm also not gonna justify. But it reminds me of Bill Maher's saying "I have never done heroin. I would never recommend heroin, but it hasn't hurt my record collection".
Weinstein has been kicked out of the academy. That should effectively end his career in Hollywood:
https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-the-academy-has-kicked-out-harvey-weinstein/
https://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-the-academy-has-kicked-out-harvey-weinstein/
They had a clause wherein he'd have to reimburse the company up to $250K in liquidated damages. According to employment lawyer here (Howard Levitt I believe), that could potentially mean liability to the company or it's officials that designed or know about such a clause. So I don't think firing him now can absolve them of being past accessories.
