I'd bet that you can't even tell who is priced elite or standard fees on most of the advertisers here based only on their photos.
How to keep everyone happy?
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If 100 is all you have then you need to buy groceries not see an spSome of those guys sought you out initially because some MPA rubbed them the wrong way
BTW, $100 is a lot of money if it's all the money you have...
I have no idea what your going on about here. Every asset has a market value. People sometimes get more or less then market value for items. SP's are no different. What exactly is your point here??
You think men dedicate the market when their demand outweighs the supply????? Ok pumpkin. You keep believing that. LMAO
The SP “market” is unlike any market out there. Prices range from 60-60,000 and more sometimes. Every SPs quota requirement is different. Their are so many “niche markets” that it naturally drives the prices higher. For every girl you are not budgeted for, there are 10 guys that are. There is no “Blue book” value on a 20 year old blonde that provides GFE service. Our “market” doesn’t work that way.
You can’t compare this “market” to any other in the world. Don’t even try. It’s not worth it.
60,000??? In Jamaican currency???? What a joke. There's no escort in Toronto fetching 60,000 hour "pumpkin".
If you think there isn't "market value" for SP's your living in some kind of fantasy world...lol.
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Don’t give Justin any ideas. You know he’ll do anything to tax the shit out of us.Build in the carbon tax into the rate increase
Once again you clearly have no idea what your talking about. If SP's could get more per hour, they would try and charge that pumpkin. It's not hard to figure out the markets. All you have to do is go on both multiple reputable agency sites (and if you can probably navigate LL) and look at the rates. That's the market. Are there some slight variables based on different factors? Sure...but there's still a general consensus of an hour rate for decent looking SP for certain services.
This was a great thread - can't believe I missed out - but here is my 2 CDN cents for what its worth - the market is driven by what we provide for a particular niche market (see what I did there @Jenesis ). I don't think there is a wrong answer in this thread - but what I do know and this is personally speaking, and I understand that not everyone is in my shoes - but I pay what the SP's rate is - period - I don't look at market value, or anything - if the SP's rate is fair and her feedback is great - she can demand what she wants - in the end I have a choice to pay it or not - if I feel its too high - I will find someone else because as mentioned several times in this thread - we do have options to go elsewhere - that's the beauty of our hobby.
@perfection - you have great feedback from what I read YOLO - up your rates based on whatever reasons - market value, inflation, or just because, whatever the reasons, we will still follow because of the service you provide - plus if you raise your rates and you feel a decline in business - you can always revert back.
Lastly - I can't imagine what these SP's go through day in day out - there is a sense of danger they are exposed to, along with some mental wellness - that alone warrants some form of adjustment.
). I don't think there is a wrong answer in this thread - but what I do know and this is personally speaking, and I understand that not everyone is in my shoes - but I pay what the SP's rate is - period - I don't look at market value, or anything - if the SP's rate is fair and her feedback is great - she can demand what she wants - in the end I have a choice to pay it or not - if I feel its too high - I will find someone else because as mentioned several times in this thread - we do have options to go elsewhere - that's the beauty of our hobby.@perfection - you have great feedback from what I read YOLO - up your rates based on whatever reasons - market value, inflation, or just because, whatever the reasons, we will still follow because of the service you provide - plus if you raise your rates and you feel a decline in business - you can always revert back.
Lastly - I can't imagine what these SP's go through day in day out - there is a sense of danger they are exposed to, along with some mental wellness - that alone warrants some form of adjustment.
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Someone is all hot and bothered that their opinion is not agreed upon. LOL.
You quoted me twice. Like you had to come back and say more…… LOL. That is too funny.
Think what you want. It just yet another guy telling us how our business is run.
There will be another one of you next week.hahahaha. "hot and bothered"...sure. Just because you don't understand what market value is and I'm trying to explain it to you, doesn't mean I'm "hot and bothered".Someone is all hot and bothered that their opinion is not agreed upon. LOL.
You quoted me twice. Like you had to come back and say more…… LOL. That is too funny.
Think what you want. It just yet another guy telling us how our business is run.
ewwwww....I quoted you twice....Insane!
Not once did I ever suggest what any of you should set your rates at, or make any suggestions "on how to run your business". In fact I've encourage all SW's to maximize their earning potential whatever way they see fit.
I'm simply explaining economics 101. If you think there's no market value in this field your just being ignorant and silly. Oh wait...yeah market value is between 60 and 60,000 per hour...I forgot.
You’re hilarious. You are pissed offf because two women who work in the field are telling you how we work and you are telling us we are wrong and know nothing.
and if you actually read what I wrote. I said a couple things
1. the market here is not driven by the demand of men. Because you know supply and demand. And completely a non- market thing.
LOL. I said our market doesn’t work the same. Not that there isn’t one.2. There there is no market like ours because of the rate range and all that come with it. (If you couldn’t figure out that 60,000 was a purposely over exaggeration to just show how wide ranging the rates are - then that is on you - it was pretty obvious)
3. I said there is no blue book value on an Sp. A 20 year old blonde with GFE service can get 60 up to (pick a number) because guys will pay. At least for the first visit and maybe they won’t go back and say she is not worth the rate with so many new guys calling, she doesn’t need anyone to come back. You don’t understand the market here in Toronto. You are going based off - as you said - economics 101 and I’m trying to explain that the typical approach to the escort market doesn’t work. But please try. Tell me this escorts blue book value. For this 20 year old blonde. Give one number that is her value. You won’t be able to because there are too many Variables.
4. I said there were also so many niche markets. You can’t just put a “value” on an escort when there are also so many niches at play.
So before you blow up again and quote and respond like 3-4 times - blowing up my update notifications - realize I never said there wasn’t a SP market. Just Challenged your ideas of what make that market up. And told you straight, guys don’t dictate the market. Which is true. You don’t. Not here in Ontario. Maybe another place on the planet - men drive the rates but here in Ontario - You don’t.
But I’m done explaining to you. I don’t care if you think you know better then me or Amanda how our industry and market work. You look foolish telling two people who successfully navigate this market on a regular basis that we have no clue yet it is you that doesn’t. There are so many more things that go into rates and how we maintain them or raise them or lower them. It is not a catch-all from economics class. We know this because we live It. You are not in this market so you can’t sit here with a straight face and say you know better then us what goes into our market. I mean you can try like you are doing but again, you look foolish.
But I’m done debating it now because well - I’m bored with the topic and I didn’t actually say anything that was not true. You just posted all pissed offf because you didn’t like the number 60,000 and that I called you pumpkin. Nothing to actually do with my post about the true SP market.
So yeah - moving on now.
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You're assuming that every Escort wants volume business. Some charge a lot because they're not willing to have sex with a stranger for a relatively small sum, but they will if the money is substantial. They aren't sitting by the phone, waiting for it to ring. They're living a normal life, and doing pay for play only when someone is willing to pay their fee.
Who might charge $60,000? Maybe somebody famous like a movie actress who's not currently getting A list roles. Lindsay Lohan might have asked for and received a fee like that, before she got married. Don't expect to see Internet advertising for the Platinum Club Escorts. Only the guys who buy without knowing or caring what the cost is are even going to know that those ladies are available.
Who might pay $60,000? Somebody with significantly more money than they need. Maybe a rich Arab, or somebody who sold their YouTube channel for a billion dollars. When a guy pays that much, he knows that he's not sharing his piece with blue collar workers, lower management professionals, or You.
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I'm not assuming anything....lol. Holy fuck man...
Do you understand what market value means???
Thank you! I gave up lolYou’re hilarious. You are pissed offf because two women who work in the field are telling you how we work and you are telling us we are wrong and know nothing.
and if you actually read what I wrote. I said a couple things
1. the market here is not driven by the demand of men. Because you know supply and demand. And completely a non- market thing.
2. There there is no market like ours because of the rate range and all that come with it. (If you couldn’t figure out that 60,000 was a purposely over exaggeration to just show how wide ranging the rates are - then that is on you - it was pretty obvious)
3. I said there is no blue book value on an Sp. A 20 year old blonde with GFE service can get 60 up to (pick a number) because guys will pay. At least for the first visit and maybe they won’t go back and say she is not worth the rate with so many new guys calling, she doesn’t need anyone to come back. You don’t understand the market here in Toronto. You are going based off - as you said - economics 101 and I’m trying to explain that the typical approach to the escort market doesn’t work. But please try. Tell me this escorts blue book value. For this 20 year old blonde. Give one number that is her value. You won’t be able to because there are too many Variables.
4. I said there were also so many niche markets. You can’t just put a “value” on an escort when there are also so many niches at play.
So before you blow up again and quote and respond like 3-4 times - blowing up my update notifications - realize I never said there wasn’t a SP market. Just Challenged your ideas of what make that market up. And told you straight, guys don’t dictate the market. Which is true. You don’t. Not here in Ontario. Maybe another place on the planet - men drive the rates but here in Ontario - You don’t.
But I’m done explaining to you. I don’t care if you think you know better then me or Amanda how our industry and market work. You look foolish telling two people who successfully navigate this market on a regular basis that we have no clue yet it is you that doesn’t. There are so many more things that go into rates and how we maintain them or raise them or lower them. It is not a catch-all from economics class. We know this because we live It. You are not in this market so you can’t sit here with a straight face and say you know better then us what goes into our market. I mean you can try like you are doing but again, you look foolish.
But I’m done debating it now because well - I’m bored with the topic and I didn’t actually say anything that was not true. You just posted all pissed offf because you didn’t like the number 60,000 and that I called you pumpkin. Nothing to actually do with my post about the true SP market.
So yeah - moving on now.
You’re hilarious. You are pissed offf because two women who work in the field are telling you how we work and you are telling us we are wrong and know nothing.
and if you actually read what I wrote. I said a couple things
1. the market here is not driven by the demand of men. Because you know supply and demand. And completely a non- market thing.
2. There there is no market like ours because of the rate range and all that come with it. (If you couldn’t figure out that 60,000 was a purposely over exaggeration to just show how wide ranging the rates are - then that is on you - it was pretty obvious)
3. I said there is no blue book value on an Sp. A 20 year old blonde with GFE service can get 60 up to (pick a number) because guys will pay. At least for the first visit and maybe they won’t go back and say she is not worth the rate with so many new guys calling, she doesn’t need anyone to come back. You don’t understand the market here in Toronto. You are going based off - as you said - economics 101 and I’m trying to explain that the typical approach to the escort market doesn’t work. But please try. Tell me this escorts blue book value. For this 20 year old blonde. Give one number that is her value. You won’t be able to because there are too many Variables.
4. I said there were also so many niche markets. You can’t just put a “value” on an escort when there are also so many niches at play.
So before you blow up again and quote and respond like 3-4 times - blowing up my update notifications - realize I never said there wasn’t a SP market. Just Challenged your ideas of what make that market up. And told you straight, guys don’t dictate the market. Which is true. You don’t. Not here in Ontario. Maybe another place on the planet - men drive the rates but here in Ontario - You don’t.
But I’m done explaining to you. I don’t care if you think you know better then me or Amanda how our industry and market work. You look foolish telling two people who successfully navigate this market on a regular basis that we have no clue yet it is you that doesn’t. There are so many more things that go into rates and how we maintain them or raise them or lower them. It is not a catch-all from economics class. We know this because we live It. You are not in this market so you can’t sit here with a straight face and say you know better then us what goes into our market. I mean you can try like you are doing but again, you look foolish.
But I’m done debating it now because well - I’m bored with the topic and I didn’t actually say anything that was not true. You just posted all pissed offf because you didn’t like the number 60,000 and that I called you pumpkin. Nothing to actually do with my post about the true SP market.
So yeah - moving on now.
Glad your moving on, because you still don't understand what market value means.....lol, and seems like you never will.
Oh! and not pissed off...I actually find this pretty funny.
Both of you should give up, because you simply don't understand the meaning of market value...lol.
Come on girl. We are use to this. Men telling us about how market and industry works. Next they will be telling us how the vagina works even though lots can’t even find the nib properly. LOL
We will just keep laughing successfully all the way to the bank with our apparent lack of knowledge.
Oh - all while pissing off those who have no say or stake in our business - they shouldn’t be getting so emotional about us anyways. That is the most fun part. Imagine something being totally none of your business and yet letting it effect you so badly.
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lol!!!! I love you equate a debate about the meaning of "Market Value" (which you still don't understand), to some kind of chauvinistic or misogynistic debate.We will just keep laughing successfully all the way to the bank with our apparent lack of knowledge.
You do this every time the topic comes up...lol.
Think what you want but At least I’m capable of moving on …….
I'll send you a sticker...
