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The Russian military’s growing discipline problems — Meduza

In a new investigative report, journalists at Mediazona counted 536 service-related felony cases filed in Russian garrison courts against soldiers since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine started last year. Most of these charges involve AWOL offenses, often resulting in probation sentences that...

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[SchlongConery]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639390679670374403

Yet, they don't seem surprised?

These fucking homicidal cowards deserve to die the slow death they will suffer.

Or, in light of what they now know to be the reality, they could turn their rifles on their commanders and their brother Russians at their back. Mow them down in a demonstration of bravery for their fellow conscripts to be inspired by. Each of these men will certainly die one way or another. At least they could die trying to change things within their corrupt, criminal army (their words, not mine) and save their fellow Russians from the same state-ordered mass executions. A half dozen internal mortal uprisings would likely set off a chain of events that could not be blamed on NATO wanting Russia to fail.

 

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Yet, they don't seem surprised?

These fucking homicidal cowards deserve to die the slow death they will suffer.

Or, in light of what they now know to be the reality, they could turn their rifles on their commanders and their brother Russians at their back. Mow them down in a demonstration of bravery for their fellow conscripts to be inspired by. Each of these men will certainly die one way or another. At least they could die trying to change things within their corrupt, criminal army (their words, not mine) and save their fellow Russians from the same state-ordered mass executions. A half dozen internal mortal uprisings would likely set off a chain of events that could not be blamed on NATO wanting Russia to fail.

Give it another 6 months, tovarishch. And then we'll see what happens.

It only takes a few examples and then the dam breaks. Just like 1917.

The Poo wants to mobilize and kill another 400,000 victims. Eventually, even a kicked dog bites back.

 

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[SchlongConery]

Give it another 6 months, tovarishch. And then we'll see what happens.

It only takes a few examples and then the dam breaks. Just like 1917.

The Poo wants to mobilize and kill another 400,000 victims. Eventually, even a kicked dog bites back.

On behalf of the sons of the soldiers who may not get their fathers back, but may at least have a chance for a free life in the future if their fathers do the right thing.

 

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Oh fuck.

@Addict2dick, @Blackcock, @nottyboi @danmand and other loyalists... sorry, you were right. Russia has been holding back their most powerful weapons.

Now I'm scared. It's all over.

I hope the Ukrainian gov't is able to suppress this devastating development or Ukrainian morale is going to collapse if this ever gets out.

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639640628752683009

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638946708854800384

 

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Well, they are running short on ammo....

 

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A half dozen internal mortal uprisings would likely set off a chain of events that could not be blamed on NATO wanting Russia to fail.

I disagree, they will spin and blame it on Nato and the US just as we see Kreal do in these threads. The Kremlin is the master of the spin and the simpletons in Russia and abroad will believe it.

 

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I disagree, they will spin and blame it on Nato and the US just as we see Kreal do in these threads. The Kremlin is the master of the spin and the simpletons in Russia and abroad will believe it.

It took 3 years for the Russian army to disintegrate in World War One due to exactly the same sort of leadership incompetence, mismanagement and graft that we still see today. Eventually - when enough mobiks have been killed - the army will collapse and the troops will rebel and riot. It happened in 1917.

 

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I disagree, they will spin and blame it on Nato and the US just as we see Kreal do in these threads. The Kremlin is the master of the spin and the simpletons in Russia and abroad will believe it.

Yeah, well spin all they want but the phones of many front line soldiers are being intercepted and their conversations published and they are aware they have been fucked over. It matters not what the residents of Moscow are fed. What matters is when the first, then second, then thrid... units sacrifice themselves by gunning down their own commanders. Won't take long for the jungle drums to reach other disenfranchised cannon fodder to create widespread chaos.

But, sadly, even Ukrainian propagandists don't produce many vids of Russian POW's who say they won't go back to the front line or that they don't support the war.

And even these videos by desperately abandoned soldiers seldom express any complaints of fighting an unjust, criminal war of genocide. Just that their rubles get stolen from their commanders or going into battle without recon intelligence.

I wish it weren't true but it seems that this Orc mentality runs deep in Russian society, if not blood.

 

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Yet, they don't seem surprised?

These fucking homicidal cowards deserve to die the slow death they will suffer.

Or, in light of what they now know to be the reality, they could turn their rifles on their commanders and their brother Russians at their back. Mow them down in a demonstration of bravery for their fellow conscripts to be inspired by. Each of these men will certainly die one way or another. At least they could die trying to change things within their corrupt, criminal army (their words, not mine) and save their fellow Russians from the same state-ordered mass executions. A half dozen internal mortal uprisings would likely set off a chain of events that could not be blamed on NATO wanting Russia to fail.

How do we know these are Russian soldiers? I mean if the had guns to their backs, why would they publish such videos? What if they were Ukrainians who were posing as Russians for propaganda purposes. How do we believe what is real and what isnt?

 

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Well, they are running short on ammo....

How do you know that?

 

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638946708854800384

What vile monsters to steal children and tell them their parents had abandoned them. And the evil orphanage staff member who thought himself as a great Tsar. And FUCK NATO for forcing these previously peace loving Russian people into developing this mindset ... and so quickly!

And what brave children for resisting them, even knowing they would be beaten with a metal rod when they said Slava Ukraine.

Russia and Russian people have relegated themselves into generations of well-earned contempt, if not visceral, instinctive hatred.

 

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What vile monsters to steal children and tell them their parents had abandoned them. And the evil orphanage staff member who thought himself as a great Tsar. And FUCK NATO for forcing these previously peace loving Russian people into developing this mindset ... and so quickly!

And what brave children for resisting them, even knowing they would be beaten with a metal rod when they said Slava Ukraine.

Russia and Russian people have relegated themselves into generations of well-earned contempt, if not visceral, instinctive hatred.

I thought you only hated Russia. Not the Russian people.

But that said, if this is true, it is indeed contemptible.

 

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How do we know these are Russian soldiers? I mean if the had guns to their backs, why would they publish such videos? What if they were Ukrainians who were posing as Russians for propaganda purposes. How do we believe what is real and what isnt?

I know you are "just asking questions" Tucksie, but what evidence do you have to disprove the authenticity or go so far as to claim ask if they are a big Ukrainian psyop?

Ukraine is not one for wasting time, resources and soldier's time. Ukraine has more effective methods to really fuck with the minds of the mindless Russian soldiers. Russian soldiers are living in constant fear of a grenade being dropped in at any time, any where. Sleeping in your trench is hard enough.

 

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I know you are "just asking questions" Tucksie, but what evidence do you have to disprove the authenticity or go so far as to claim ask if they are a big Ukrainian psyop?

Ukraine is not one for wasting time, resources and soldier's time. Ukraine has more effective methods to really fuck with the minds of the mindless Russian soldiers. Russian soldiers are living in constant fear of a grenade being dropped in at any time, any where. Sleeping in your trench is hard enough.

I saw another video the other day of a Russian loitering munition destroying a Ukrainian tank or whatever. I mean videos like this exist.

And propagnda is an essential component of war. This is why Ukraine doesn't even publish its losses while claiming that the Russians are suffering a 7 to 1 loss.

So am trying to point out that while it is easier and convenient to believe what you see on the internet that supports your side, it may not actually be the truth on the ground. From both sides.

I say that neutrally. I dont have a dog in this fight, the way you do. Not even a past one.

 

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I thought you only hated Russia. Not the Russian people.

But that said, if this is true, it is indeed contemptible.

Here you go again you fucking lying Orc excusenik.

*I* never said *I* hated anyone in that post.

I was speaking, specifically, of Russians themselves, relegating themselves to generations of visceral instinctive hatred by their actions.

You seem to be an expert at finding the real reasons for everything but you missed the implied connection between this young boy's treatment in Russian captivity and developing a visceral, instinctive hatred? So are you having difficulty with reading comprehension you accuse others of?

Or are you just fighting your own battle to excuse Russia, Russians and Russian actions and behaviours?

All of which reinforce my previous decision not to engage with you in the other thread.

In the meantime, I'd be sincerely appreciative if you fucked off with replying to my posts when all you do is deliberately or retardedly give them the standard Russian Up is Down, Down is Up treatment.

 

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Here you go again you fucking lying Orc excusenik.

*I* never said *I* hated anyone in that post.

I was speaking, specifically, of Russians themselves, relegating themselves to generations of visceral instinctive hatred by their actions.

You seem to be an expert at finding the real reasons for everything but you missed the implied connection between this young boy's treatment in Russian captivity and developing a visceral, instinctive hatred? So are you having difficulty with reading comprehension you accuse others of?

Or are you just fighting your own battle to excuse Russia, Russians and Russian actions and behaviours?

All of which reinforce my previous decision not to engage with you in the other thread.

In the meantime, I'd be sincerely appreciative if you fucked off with replying to my posts when all you do is deliberately or retardedly give them the standard Russian Up is Down, Down is Up treatment.

You misunderstand. I am not talking about the post I replied to you in this thread. I was talking about our conversation earlier when you said you hate Russia but not Russians as a people.

This post of yours seems to contradict what you said earlier in the other thread or am I wrong?

I am not lying about anything, I am just holding a mirror to what you said earlier in the other thread.

Again I dont have a dog in this fight. I am not pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine. I am just anti-war, anti-NATO and anti-belligerent western foreign policy.