Liberals aren't planning to table a budget this year, finance minister says

[Skoob]

I literally said why in my post!

The reason you provided doesn't make it right.

That's like saying you robbed a bank because you believed they owed you money. Yes it's your reason, but it's not right. Which is the essence of my question...which you are tap dancing around.

Why would someone (i.e. you) edit someone else's posts?

 

[Skoob]

Given Trudeau was the one who initiated a reduction in immigration, this doesn't appear to be true.

What exactly do you mean by "initiated"?
Please provide your definition so we don't spend the next several posts trying to figure out what you mean,

(although based on prior interactions with you, I think you provide these vague statements so that you can wiggle around your answers and leave yourself room to flip flop).

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You seem fooled by simple pays on words.

No, I just don't engage in mental gymnastics like this.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The reason you provided doesn't make it right.

You are no arbiter of what is right or wrong.
You asked why, I told you why.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

What exactly do you mean by "initiated"?
Please provide your definition so we don't spend the next several posts trying to figure out what you mean,

I don't think the word "initiated" has 2 meanings unless you were looking for an opportunity to engage in mental gymnastics.
Trudeau came up with the revised targets for immigration.

 

[Skoob]

So have the liberals.
They reformed the immigration system from the Harper years and reformed it again last year.
You straight up lied that the liberals stole conservative platform ideas when the conservatives did not even publish their platform until 3 days before the election. lmfao.
Your mental gymnastics is at another level today.

No silly.
Trudeau reversed his stance on immigration in Aug 2024 and then made another announcement in October 2024. Both as a result of pressure by the Conservatives and polls indicating they were losing ground.
Prior to that he would not budge on immigration control.

Liberals stole Conservative policies for their election campaign. You think the Conservatives weren't calling for the removal of the carbon tax prior to 3 days before the election?

Just because you say it's a lie, doesn't make it true. Calling me a liar to hide your failure isn't working.

You owe me an apology.

 

[Skoob]

You are no arbiter of what is right or wrong.
You asked why, I told you why.

I asked why you would do something that's obviously not right? Based on your tap dancing display, you must indeed think it's right.

So let's make this easy for you...is editing someone else's post the right thing to do when you disagree with what they have posted?
It's a simple yes or no answer.

So?

 

[Skoob]

I don't think the word "initiated" has 2 meanings unless you were looking for an opportunity to engage in mental gymnastics.
Trudeau came up with the revised targets for immigration.

It actually does have two meanings but I don't expect someone who struggles with the English language to know that so I'll give you a pass without making you look foolish.

Did he come up with "revised targets" before the Conservatives challenged him on the topic or after?

If before, prove it.

If after, then you agree they copied the Conservatives correct?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Trudeau reversed his stance on immigration in Aug 2024 and then made another announcement in October 2024. Both as a result of pressure by the Conservatives and polls indicating they were losing ground.
Liberals stole Conservative policies for their election campaign.

He did not reverse his immigration stance as evidenced by the fact that immigration still exists to the of ~1M per year.
He reduced immigration targets and the Liberals came up with it all on their own.
Pierre was simply sloganeering as he always does, but he had no policy or a suggestion for a number.
So you straight up lied that Liberals stole conservative policies.
Carney explained why he paused the carbon tax.
He paused it as it was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
That does not amount to stealing anything.
I read the conservative manifest on their website, there was literally nothing in there that could be said to amount to policy.
Just vague, generic nothingness that you couldn't possibly steal anything from, as there is nothing there to steal.
Hence the shellacking.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

....obviously not right?

It could be argued it was wrong if I had misrepresented the post by making it seem like the OP wrote something he did not.
But I did not do that and I said that I "fixed" his post, which made it abundantly clear that I edited it to correct it for accuracy.
Infact I kept the original text in.
So it was obviously not wrong and I provided the reason why.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Did he come up with "revised targets" before the Conservatives challenged him on the topic or after?

What the conservatives did has no bearing on his actions.
The conservative is the opposition and their job is to oppose everything the Liberals do.
Doesn't mean if the Liberals change policy it is because of the conservatives.
That is some Olympic level mental gymnastics right there.
Canadians saw through this.
Hence the shellacking.

 

[Skoob]

He did not reverse his immigration stance as evidenced by the fact that immigration still exists to the of ~1M per year.
He reduced immigration targets and the Liberals came up with it all on their own.
Pierre was simply sloganeering as he always does, but he had no policy or a suggestion for a number.
So you straight up lied that Liberals stole conservative policies.
Carney explained why he paused the carbon tax.
He paused it as it was ineffective and politically unhelpful.
That does not amount to stealing anything.
I read the conservative manifest on their website, there was literally nothing in there that could be said to amount to policy.
Just vague, generic nothingness that you couldn't possibly steal anything from, as there is nothing there to steal.
Hence the shellacking.

It's so easy to make you look foolish...btw do you know what "pivot" means?

Poilievre Aug 2024:
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Thursday he would rein in Canada's population growth if elected, claiming the Liberal government has "destroyed our immigration system" and insisting on cuts to the number of people arriving in order to preserve a program that was once widely supported.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-immigration-cut-population-growth-1.7308184


Trudeau Oct 2024:
Trudeau announces massive drop in immigration targets as Liberals make major pivot
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/art...gration-targets-as-liberals-make-major-pivot/



The argument about the carbon tax is not about who's justification for removing it is correct...it's about removing it as a campaign item. Liberals copied the Conservatives and removed it. You can spin the words all you want "stopped" paused" "suspended" etc...doesn't matter. Liberals never mentioned anything prior to election about doing anything with the carbon tax. Poilievre and the Conservatives have been wanting to remove it for years.



You owe me an apology please.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It's so easy to make you look foolish...btw do you know what "pivot" means?

Poilievre Aug 2024:
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Thursday he would rein in Canada's population growth if elected, claiming the Liberal government has "destroyed our immigration system" and insisting on cuts to the number of people arriving in order to preserve a program that was once widely supported.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poilievre-immigration-cut-population-growth-1.7308184


Trudeau Oct 2024:
Trudeau announces massive drop in immigration targets as Liberals make major pivot
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/art...gration-targets-as-liberals-make-major-pivot/



The argument about the carbon tax is not about who's justification for removing it is correct...it's about removing it as a campaign item. Liberals copied the Conservatives and removed it. You can spin the words all you want "stopped" paused" "suspended" etc...doesn't matter. Liberals never mentioned anything prior to election about doing anything with the carbon tax. Poilievre and the Conservatives have been wanting to remove it for years.



You owe me an apology please.

Yes we know that the conservatives have been opposing Liberals on everything they do.
I just said that in my response.
And the Liberals are well within their rights to review the results of their policies and course correct.
Which is what they did.
It takes some olympic level mental gymnastics to say that if the Liberals course corrected it is copying conservative policies.
If you could sell that BS, Pierre wouldn't have lost his seat, lmfao.

 

[Butler1000]

you really are a poor judge of character if you have become a wigglee cheerleader

your judgement is very suspect

Now I know you can't read. I literally took your side on that, clearly telling W that you proved yourself right, and you didn't even comprehend that.

Wow.

 

[Butler1000]

gee. then why did Mark Carney become so obsessed with the Trump Tariffs during the election campaign?
odd how he did did not claim he was just going to wait Trump out

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Because he is the actual PM and so has to reassure the nation? So he did, then went to meet Trump. Had a nice talk. Now what is happening? Not a lot. Trump isn't even fully staffed up yet. Is trying to cut deals with what? 90 nations. And China just led the way with, wait for it do nothing. Then Trump crawled to them, pulled back everything to pre April 2nd lvls. And now there is a promise to talk more.

Sure, we can talk, use USMCA as a base. Let the teams hash things out. That will take months, just like last time. While Trump is on the clock as prices rise.

In fact btw in other posts I did say it would end up a process at lower levels that will take months.

 

[JohnLarue]

Now I know you can't read. I literally took your side on that, clearly telling W that you proved yourself right, and you didn't even comprehend that.

Wow.

you are correct
i thought your comment was directed at me
i apologise to you

 

[BIGBOOTYKN]

Why would these crooks table anything ?? They do whatever the hell they want and the libtards just keep voting in these fuckers even though our lives as Canadians get worse wand worse

 

[Skoob]

Yes we know that the conservatives have been opposing Liberals on everything they do.
I just said that in my response.
And the Liberals are well within their rights to review the results of their policies and course correct.
Which is what they did.
It takes some olympic level mental gymnastics to say that if the Liberals course corrected it is copying conservative policies.
If you could sell that BS, Pierre wouldn't have lost his seat, lmfao.

Is "course correcting" the BS they have made you swallow now?

They only "course corrected" after 9 years and after realizing they were going to lose the election and not because they realized their policies have been failing miserably.

So they didn't "course correct", they copied.

You can course correct yourself and apologize to me now.

 

[Skoob]

It could be argued it was wrong if I had misrepresented the post by making it seem like the OP wrote something he did not.
But I did not do that and I said that I "fixed" his post, which made it abundantly clear that I edited it to correct it for accuracy.
Infact I kept the original text in.
So it was obviously not wrong and I provided the reason why.

You chose to edit someone's post rather than respond to it with your own words and in your own post reply.

Why would you be the arbiter of deciding what needs to be fixed in someone else's post and then editing it?
They were his own words not yours.

So simple question...is editing someone's posts acceptable and right, or unacceptable and wrong?

 

[wigglee]

Actually he did bust yer ass on that one. You should acknowledge it.

not really..... Harper took 4 months. People seem to be demanding a budget within weeks of Carney. 4 months would take us to mid summer, when parliament in not in session. Fall is fine and nothing unusual, but of course the Cons try to make a big deal out of any and every thing.