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Athiesm is a religion?
Just another fujism,...

,..."the absence of belief in the existence of deities",...notice the word,...absence of belief

,..."Lacking a belief in the supernatural, atheism is not a religion",...notice the word,...Lacking a belief

,..."meaning "without god(s)".,...notice the word,...without,...from the ORIGINAL meaning of the term,...as the Greeks intended.

I think those three words also do a good job of describing fuji's thought process on the subject,...escpecially when he called EVERY living person in the world a bigot.

And once again,...the term atheist is an outdated religious derogatory that is no longer used by the Canadian government,...which also highlights were fuji is today.
 

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Athiesm is a religion?
Absolutely. There's no more proof that God doesn't exist than there is proof that God does. Athiests choose to believe in the non existence of God without any evidence for that belief.

It's a perfectly valid belief and lots of athiests are nice reasonable people.

But, in the 20th century, athiests proved to be the biggest religiously motivated mass murderers. In Asia and Eastern Europe a particular extremist form of athiesm concluded that other religions were "poison" and that human progress would be accelerated in the long run if they were systematically eliminated, so they set about murdering millions of people in an attempt to stamp out any conflicting belief.

In Cambodia, in China, and in Russia millions upon millions were murdered in the name of athiesm because they held other religious beliefs.

FAST is trying to downplay it as communism, but athiesm was explicitly used as a justification for the murder of people with religious beliefs. Communism can be formulated WITHOUT athiesm, it was the athiesm that resulted in the religious murders.

Do most athiests think that way? No. Most athiests are moderate athiests who do not engage in this sort of fanatical, totalitarian extremism
 

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Athiesm is a religion. There's no proof for the things athiests believe. And it is a religion whose extremists killed millions and millions of people trying to stamp out other religions through murder.
Read and learn,...

,..."the absence of belief in the existence of deities",...notice the word,...absence of belief

,..."Lacking a belief in the supernatural, atheism is not a religion",...notice the word,...Lacking a belief

,..."meaning "without god(s)".,...notice the word,...without,...from the ORIGINAL meaning of the term,...as the Greeks intended.

I think those three words also do a good job of describing your thought process on the subject,...escpecially when you called EVERY living person in the world a bigot.

And once again,...the term atheist is an outdated religious derogatory that is no longer used by the Canadian government,...which also highlights were you are today.
 

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To me, you have to 'worship' someone, or something for it to become a religion.

If you don't believe in gods, then you also don't believe in any religions. So certainly you cant' 'be' a religion if you don't believe in them.

What would you worship... nothing. What religion would you practice...none.

Its just a mindset, nothing more.
Aethists believe that the rational pursuit of abstract ordering of behaviour is enough to build a society where individuals exist in harmony, as absolute rights surrendered are balanced by the unfettered enjoyment of those that remain.


Any social contract may be perverted as the establishment of hierarchy is fundamental to our being.
 

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A travel ban on Muslim countries and a total refugee resettlement shutdown is an oppression that will force them to stay where they are. If they die there who gives a shit, if they become terrorists and kill people over there who gives a shit, if they try to sneak in and do shit over here we kill them, if the "good" ones already here get mad about what we're doing to their brethren and try to raise shit, we deport or kill based on severity
A new spokesman for the Trumpies has emerged!
 

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To me, you have to 'worship' someone, or something for it to become a religion.

If you don't believe in gods, then you also don't believe in any religions. So certainly you cant' 'be' a religion if you don't believe in them.

What would you worship... nothing. What religion would you practice...none.

Its just a mindset, nothing more.
It's a belief based on faith rather than empirical fact. Athiests just believe there's no God, they have no proof for that belief.

It's an athiest conceit that their beliefs aren't religion while everyone else's are.

That is an arrogant and condescending viewpoint which in the cases I mentioned evolved into mass murdering millions of people.
 

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Aethists believe that the rational pursuit of abstract ordering of behaviour is enough to build a society where individuals exist in harmony, as absolute rights surrendered are balanced by the unfettered enjoyment of those that remain.


Any social contract may be perverted as the establishment of hierarchy is fundamental to our being.
And, in Cambodia, in service of that goal they concluded "rationally" that murdering millions of people who stood in the way of progress, eg by promoting other religions, was in the greater good since it would lead to a better future for those who remained and billions to follow.

The data we have is that really bad shit happens when athiests get control.
 

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Fuji is a man that has 100% certainty in man made climate change even though there are reputable scientists that contend otherwise, yet on the issue of god in which there is much less scientific ground to believe in sky daddy he is also 100% certain that there is a god. If you believe in sky daddy, why on earth would you believe that man has such a negative effect on the earth that is protected by your sky daddy?

The germ theory of disease probably has saved billions of lives, it is a theory that is counter to all religious sensibilities. So please subtract all the deaths you think that atheists are responsible for against that.
 

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Aethists believe that the rational pursuit of abstract ordering of behaviour is enough to build a society where individuals exist in harmony, as absolute rights surrendered are balanced by the unfettered enjoyment of those that remain.

Any social contract may be perverted as the establishment of hierarchy is fundamental to our being.
Atheist,...

,..."the absence of belief in the existence of deities",...notice the word,...absence of belief

,..."Lacking a belief in the supernatural, atheism is not a religion",...notice the word,...Lacking a belief

,..."meaning "without god(s)".,...notice the word,...without,...from the ORIGINAL meaning of the term,...as the Greeks intended.

And once again,...the term atheist is an outdated religious derogatory that is no longer used by the Canadian government,...

Replaced by,... guess what,...simply,... non believers,...

Not,..."believing in not believing",... which is an oxymoron if anything ever was.
 

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Caring for others is weakness. The pursuit of one's own happiness is the ultimate morality
-Ayn Rand
Do you have a significant other?
Do you have parents?
Do you have children?
Do you have siblings?
Do you have close friends?

Hopefully you don't weaken yourself by actually caring.
 

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Absolutely. There's no more proof that God doesn't exist than there is proof that God does. Athiests choose to believe in the non existence of God without any evidence for that belief.

It's a perfectly valid belief and lots of athiests are nice reasonable people.
I don't think atheism is a religion. I think it as belief as it pertains to religion. I think that, by definition, religion is a belief in a higher being.

Not disputing the thrust of your argument as it pertains to atheists.
 

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Fuji is a man that has 100% certainty in man made climate change even though there are reputable scientists that contend otherwise,
No reputable scientists claim otherwise. I challenge you to find a peer reviewed article published in Nature or Science or other highly respected journal saying so.

You can't. You can only find articles in dodgy journals no one ever heard of before, or journals with no or low standards.

yet on the issue of god in which there is much less scientific ground to believe in sky daddy he is also 100% certain that there is a god.
Where did you get the idea I think there's a God???
 
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No reputable scientists claim otherwise. I challenge you to find a peer reviewed article published in Nature or Science or other highly respected journal saying so.
Why bother? You'll just say it does not meet your standards, as if your approval has any merit. Your condescending attitude is repulsive.
 

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Why bother? You'll just say it does not meet your standards, as if your approval has any merit. Your condescending attitude is repulsive.
Nature and Science meet my standards and yes I'm condescending. I'm smarter and better educated than you and we both know it.
 
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