6 People shot, Possibly 2 dead
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You name two versus dozens. Not a very good point in arguement.Judas H said:
My original point was that it is ridiculous to pigeon hole blame on a race or culture. If the culture outright taught violence against certain other races, then call it a cultural thing. However, just because black kids have been known to shoot kids in the GTA, doesn't mean that the entire black race is somehow responsible for these few punks actions.
To say that the black community should be taking action is ridiculous. THE ENTIRE community should be taking action. There are no visible walls that seperate the races that inhabit Toronto. Hence it becomes the entire communities burden, not just one race.
Bigotry is indeed strong in many. So strong that they have fooled themselves into thinking bigotry doesn't exist. They make statements like "it's their fault, let them handle it.", "They always do that and carry guns and sell drugs." To be honest with you, I can't remember the last time I bought drugs from a black person. Usually white, asian or middle eastern.
Can we get off this whole "blame the black community" bullshit. It hurts me to think that so many terbites would buy into this racist bullshit.
Untrue. Many serial killers thrive in Europe, Asia and Americas. Since we are in North America, we will generalize that in North America at least 70% of all serial killers are white. That is a pretty high number and I think I'll go and search for real stats on that. However, the point still remains that a crime is committed by an individual, not a community. Where the community might be guilty is in not helping bringing a criminal to justice. Again, don't you racists start spouting that the black community is tight and won't rat. So what is it? Are they tight or in a hurry to kill each other?Judas H said:
The reality of uncooperative people also has nothing to do with race. It has to do with ridiculous street credibility and twisted honor mixed with fear of retribution. Criminals live and unfortunately die by the rule of no ratting.
Back to serial killers. Since, in our own large backyard, serial killers are predominantly white, should the white community take blame and be made to take action? Ridiculous at best.
Yes, but rarely done. It happens and it's a good thing. However I'm sure you can speak to officers who are extremely frustrated with the lack of anonymous tips.Esco! said:
Street credibility is a state of mind. I know in my own troubled past I knew not a single person who would rat out even their worst enemy. It was far more honorable to exact revenge then to squeal.
The community is scared. The people who might give anonymous tips are fearful that they will be found out somehow. It's not too farfetched either. Not everything promised is delivered.
Listen, I don't claim to have answers to the violence. I'm as torn as everyone else. What I'm trying to do is dispell the myth that somehow it's the black communities fault and therefor burden to fix. That is wrong and I think I've made my point as best I could.
And there should be more of those tips.ruck said:
Fear of reprisals or street cred are poor excuses
I'd also be scared to rat out a guy thats sitting on an AK-47.ruck said:
But why not send an anonymous letter to police ????
Very hard to trace those.
I never said it was the black communities fault.ruck said:
Hey buddy, I wasn't arguing with you or implying that you were blaming them.
I was making a generalization to those in this thread who think it's somehow the black communities burden.
I was making a generalization to those in this thread who think it's somehow the black communities burden.
I don't think that any reasonable person would say that a "community" could be held responsible for the actions of their most deviant members, be they black gangsters or white serial killers. What communities can do to help these situations is accept that because of the actions of deviant members of their communities, innocent members of their communities will be profiled by the police in their efforts to prevent the problems.
For example, I think that Canada's Muslim groups have generally been pretty reasonable about accepting that recent global terrorism has exposed them to extra scrutiny, even when they have done nothing wrong. Similarly old, white guys must accept extra scrutiny when they leave strip clubs at night, even when they are not drunk, and young black men who look like gangsters must accept that they are, or should be, more likely to be searched for weapons. That is the price we all pay when members of our community misbehave.
For example, I think that Canada's Muslim groups have generally been pretty reasonable about accepting that recent global terrorism has exposed them to extra scrutiny, even when they have done nothing wrong. Similarly old, white guys must accept extra scrutiny when they leave strip clubs at night, even when they are not drunk, and young black men who look like gangsters must accept that they are, or should be, more likely to be searched for weapons. That is the price we all pay when members of our community misbehave.
Did you all read in the Sun today that the one they caught had a rap sheet a mile long and constantly broke parole?
I think the courts are going to have to be held somewhat responsible for this a hole being out on the streets.....
Just another example of how the cops catch them, and the courts let em go with a slap on the wrist......
I think the courts are going to have to be held somewhat responsible for this a hole being out on the streets.....
Just another example of how the cops catch them, and the courts let em go with a slap on the wrist......
Cute Cob second guesses any racist actions black people face. He thinks we are all making it up. Dont take it personal. He has done it to me as well when i tried to explain all the shit I have gone through for no reason since coming to this country.Back Burner said:
You cant blame him for he hasnt walked in your shoes and he will never understands until some how he morphs into a black man and goes out there to test the waters.
did you understand the context? this isnt about life. I am addressing Back Burner with regards to Cob not understanding what it is to be black and within the sight of the Police. Did you pick up on that?Esco! said:
and in any event if you think the life of a white person is on the same level of that of a black one then boy have a i got news for you....................
Lets just say whites are in 'pole position'.
Does that matter to me personally? No, I work for what I want and damn hard too.
Once again, look at the context I was speaking in
