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Angry Dad Castrates his teen daughter's 57 year old boyfriend

papasmerf

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Not the kind of story that I want to hear because I'm currently dating a girl about the same age as my son.

Her dad is 3 years younger than me. I haven't met him yet...
And the last words you would hear is man overboard whispered as soft as I could.
 

Mac_Eng1985

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http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/14/angry-dad-castrates-daughters-boyfriend-with-bread-knife/

Helmut Seifert, a 47-year old in Bielefeld, northwest Germany, grew angry when he learned his 17-year old daughter was involved with an older man. He asked local police to intervene, but they have no authority to end consensual relationships.

"The man was forced to remove his trousers and, fully conscious, he was castrated," police said. "The severed testicles were taken away by the perpetrator."

Doctors will not be able to reattach his organs.
I have no issue with this what-so-ever... Bastard got what he deserved...
 

rgkv

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Not the kind of story that I want to hear because I'm currently dating a girl about the same age as my son.

Her dad is 3 years younger than me. I haven't met him yet...
This doen't have to be as bad as it looks....If I was dating a woman 40 years old, I too could be older than her father......Whats so bad there?????
 

DocOdd

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Germany is pretty lenient. I'm not sure that the guy who tried to kill Monica Seles even went to jail.
Well, the German authorities thought he was unlikely to reoffend. Given that it's 17 years later, and nothing more has been heard from him, maybe they were right? Kind of expensive to lock people up, and so only good sense not to do it if it isn't necessary.
 

Cassini

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Not a lawyer her or in Germany but wouldn't that charge of attempted murder be difficult to prove? The guy had a knife in his hand and ample opportunity to murder the guy but only maimed him.
I think the issue would be that they left him to die, almost bleeding to death. Most people don't realize how much blood flow is present, and chopping someones balls off is likely to cause death from blood loss.
 

Aardvark154

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Not a lawyer her or in Germany but wouldn't that charge of attempted murder be difficult to prove? The guy had a knife in his hand and ample opportunity to murder the guy but only maimed him. I can see a charge of aggravated assault, forcible confinement and conspiricay to commit both. All of which likely have significant sentences available considering the premeditation.
As Cassini already posted, leaving someone to bleed to death certainly rises to Attempted Murder. However, you are correct that in most of North America he could alternatively have been charged with Aggravated Assault with elevating factors which would have made the potential sentence range in the same range as Attempted Murder.
 

mandrill

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As Cassini already posted, leaving someone to bleed to death certainly rises to Attempted Murder. However, you are correct that in most of North America he could alternatively have been charged with Aggravated Assault with elevating factors which would have made the potential sentence range in the same range as Attempted Murder.
+1. In a common law jurisdiction, the state could not prove mens rea for attempted murder.

I assume aggravated assault will be the eventual plea deal. I also assume we are well into double digits for jail time. Plus the guy will lose all his possessions in damages in a civil suit and his family will end up living in a bus shelter. At least, in Germany the bus shelter will be squeaky clean. (And it will also probably contain a list of rules to follow.)
 

great bear

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The father will most certainly be charged. However the case will be thrown out of court because the evidence would not stand up.
 

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The father will most certainly be charged. However the case will be thrown out of court because the evidence would not stand up.
Hardy-har-har.
The 57 year old guy will win a big civil suit but then without a johnson what good is having a 17 year old girl friend and a bunch of money?
 

buttercup

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So a 57yo guy is seeing a 17yo girl? And several of the posters here think it's ok for the father to cut the guy's balls off with a breadknife. they say that's what they themselves would do in his position!

does this make you despair of the human race? is there any hope for our culture, if we instil our scum with so fragile a hold on the basic principles of morality and justice?

The relationship was consensual, according to police. So whose business is it, but the couple's own? You might not be deliriously happy for your daughter to be in such a relationship, but if that's what she wants, hey.

do you realize, we actually know of several people (e.g simon482, onthebottom, mac-eng1985), here, on this board, who, if their daughter were to date someone they don't approve of, would willingly castrate the guy!

Thank you god for arranging the world so that I am not beholden to pondlife like that. My commiserations to those not so fortunate.
 

partho

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I think it's time old guys understand that they should stop marrying girls of their daughter's age. Such relationships never last more than a couple of years. Once the blue pill stops working, the girl would end up fucking every young lad she comes across.
Have seen this so many times. However, it's good for us - the young guys as we get lots of civis whose husbands cant fuck them good enough:)

Ok. So, i think i have pissed off many now :)
 

Aardvark154

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+1. In a common law jurisdiction, the state could not prove mens rea for attempted murder.
But don't you believe that leaving him there to "bleed out" might rise to a sufficient state of 'depraved mind'? Of course, another interesting addition in some jurisdictions would be Aggravated Attempted Murder, since there was an element of torture involved.
 

dj1470

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nothing personal but i would break your legs if it was my kid.
+1
I have 2 daughters and while I don't see myself cutting his balls off I do see a rather biblical beatdown and several broken body parts in any 57 year old man's future if he tried to "see" either of my girls.

If she were 18 or 19 would your reaction be the same?
I know you weren't commenting to me but.....................yes it does matter to me.

Half your age + 8 that's the formula we should all go by when in a relationship
He is 57? divide by 2 = 29 + 8 = the oldest woman a 57 year old man should have a relationship with is 37

Hence, I am 38 so the youngest woman I should date would be 27

If everyone held to this formula the civilized world would be a better place IMHO
 

dj1470

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So a 57yo guy is seeing a 17yo girl? And several of the posters here think it's ok for the father to cut the guy's balls off with a breadknife. they say that's what they themselves would do in his position!

does this make you despair of the human race? is there any hope for our culture, if we instil our scum with so fragile a hold on the basic principles of morality and justice?

The relationship was consensual, according to police. So whose business is it, but the couple's own? You might not be deliriously happy for your daughter to be in such a relationship, but if that's what she wants, hey.

do you realize, we actually know of several people (e.g simon482, onthebottom, mac-eng1985), here, on this board, who, if their daughter were to date someone they don't approve of, would willingly castrate the guy!

Thank you god for arranging the world so that I am not beholden to pondlife like that. My commiserations to those not so fortunate.
Spoken by someone without children.
Give your head a shake.
 

The Fruity Hare

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I have 2 daughters and while I don't see myself cutting his balls off I do see a rather biblical beatdown and several broken body parts in any 57 year old man's future if he tried to "see" either of my girls.



I know you weren't commenting to me but.....................yes it does matter to me.

Half your age + 8 that's the formula we should all go by when in a relationship
He is 57? divide by 2 = 29 + 8 = the oldest woman a 57 year old man should have a relationship with is 37
You probably meant youngest.
 

The Fruity Hare

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Hence my editing of my OP but thanks for the grammar lesson.
It wasn't a grammar lesson, I was merely pointing out that you had mis -typed, but since you took it the wrong way, you still haven't edited the mistake:

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I have 2 daughters and while I don't see myself cutting his balls off I do see a rather biblical beatdown and several broken body parts in any 57 year old man's future if he tried to "see" either of my girls.



I know you weren't commenting to me but.....................yes it does matter to me.

Half your age + 8 that's the formula we should all go by when in a relationship
He is 57? divide by 2 = 29 + 8 = the oldest woman a 57 year old man should have a relationship with is 37

Hence, I am 38 so the youngest woman I should date would be 27

If everyone held to this formula the civilized world would be a better place IMHO
 

DocOdd

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I've also been disturbed by some of the comments in this thread, though I wasn't sure what to say about them. I guess that personally I feel like 17 year olds make lots of stupid decisions about which other 17 year olds to sleep with, so I don't know why it's automatically so much bigger a deal when they make stupid decisions about which much older people to sleep with. Perhaps more importantly, however incompetent 17 year olds may sometimes be to make decisions for themselves, their parents are often as bad or worse judges of what they should be doing (certainly comments in this thread haven't reassured me about the wisdom of parents), and you have to let them make their own mistakes sometimes. When a guy chops off his 17 year old daughter's boyfriend's balls, if the daughter's on the boyfriend's side, my inclination is to wonder how much other crazy bad shit this maniac is doing to control his poor daughter's life.
 
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