I haven't read her blog in full, only the excerpts posted here. Based on those, I didn't get the feeling she was trying to say she was better than her clients. She was just accurately describing them as they really are. Does it surprise me that she says most of her clients are either socially inept, unattractive, middle-aged, or have exceptionally high libidos? Absolutely not. That exactly what I would have guessed. Am I surprised that she doesn't enjoy the sex and just pretends to enjoy it for the money? Absolutely not. Makes perfect sense. It also doesn't surprise me when she says that many clients seem to long for some type of real emotional connection and that it gets tiring. Clients aren't special. SPs don't have unique connections with you and the other 300 men they see every two months. It's an act and that's part of the job. She says that most SPs have boyfriends but pretend they don't? I've posted this fact on the board too because I've been with and worked with enough women to know how they operate. A pimp in the hood will tell you that the best way to learn game is to learn it from women. Women are the ultimate players/hustlers.
Bianca the escort: an internet blog
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I don't think it's fair to paint every SP with the same brush, the way that Bianca has done with her former clients. I'm sure there are some SPs who save and there are some who don't. Everybody has their own story.For example, if many of us made the kind of money SPs do, we'd save, invest, and live in relative prosperity. Yet this common sense approach is so alien to many SPs that after hooking for a full decade, they don't have a single dollar to show for it. Many of those forgettable older female cashiers working at Walmart or serving up your Starbucks coffee were once beautiful young strippers and escorts living the fast life.
I'm sure every girl has their own coping mechanisms for dealing with the job. For Bianca, it seemed to be a combination of some sense of moral superiority, writing about it, the fact that at least one person close to her approved and the rationalization that she was paying off her debts and had no other choices.
In this case her SO immigrated here to be with her and wasn't working (at least for a period of time) and she was supporting them both. So sort of like #2 without other girlfriends. I don't think she can relate that part accurately as she wouldn't know what was actually going through his mind. He did seem fine with how she was supporting them.I agree, it's strange. The boyfriends of escorts usually fall into two categories. 1) They're the submissive/cuckold type that actually have a fetish knowing their girl has sex with other men 2) They're essentially pimps that have many "girlfriends" (whether she knows it or not) and are happy to keep her around to pay all the bills and more.
Again, morality is risky business. Men do some women hating when they start talking about an SP's spending habits and all the rest. Who cares? It's behind-the-scenes resentment that the men have to pay for it, and the girl isn't "doing anything good with the money."I don't think it's fair to paint every SP with the same brush, the way that Bianca has done with her former clients. I'm sure there are some SPs who save and there are some who don't. Everybody has their own story.
I'm sure every girl has their own coping mechanisms for dealing with the job. For Bianca, it seemed to be a combination of some sense of moral superiority, writing about it, the fact that at least one person close to her approved and the rationalization that she was paying off her debts and had no other choices.
The huge emotional toll of being a hooker leads to all the treadmill stuff and high anxiety that leads to bad financial decisions. Also you're generally dealing with outlier personalities..
I think when she says they're all "sad" she pretty much says it in a - my clients were sad little people but I made good money from them and would do it again if necessary - way. To me that's "I'm better than them" in a nutshell. Still, maybe some providers are better (or less sad) than their clients.I haven't read her blog in full, only the excerpts posted here. Based on those, I didn't get the feeling she was trying to say she was better than her clients. She was just accurately describing them as they really are. Does it surprise me that she says most of her clients are either socially inept, unattractive, or have exceptionally high libidos? Absolutely not. That exactly what I would have guessed. Am I surprised that she doesn't enjoy the sex and just pretends to enjoy it for the money? Absolutely not. Makes perfect sense. It also doesn't surprise me when she says that many clients seem to long for some type of real emotional connection and that it gets tiring. Clients aren't special. SPs don't have unique connections with you and the other 300 men they see every two months. It's an act and that's part of the job. She says that most SPs have boyfriends but pretend they don't? I've posted this fact on the board too because I've been with and worked with enough women to know how they operate. A pimp in the hood will tell you that the best way to learn game is to learn it from women. Women are the ultimate players/hustlers.
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Many of her clients may be sad. Think about all the tortured souls that SPs must come across day to day. Their clients come from all walks of life but they also probably see a disproporionate amount of broken men, lonely men, socially awkward men, unattractive men. Kinda goes with the territory. I just don't see anything offensive in her expressing this.
Given the context I don't think there is much I could find fault with. Here she seems to be talking about her typical middle-aged clients who begin to believe the fantasy that SPs provide. We've seen it on TERB constantly. Some guy thinks he's falling in love or gets special treatment because he believes the SP just likes him so much. But escorts are basically indifferent. They don't necessarily see you as a bad guy or good guy. Just a guy that she has to pretend to like to get her rent and tuition paid. Just as the author finds her clients "as a group, reprehensible", I honestly would say the same about SPs as a group. And she would probably agree. It's hard to ignore that these women are sleeping with many men (some of them physically disgusting) just for money and then many of them spend that money on non-essentials until they're broke. It's rather icky.The only people I think I could give insight to are the clients. And all I can say is this: we don’t love you. We barely like you. Seeing an escort doesn’t make you a bad guy, but it doesn’t make you good, either. I don’t feel bad about what I did. I would do it again if I had to. I know that. I’m sorry you’re all so sad.
I won’t tell you that money doesn’t buy happiness. Of course it can. There are many paths to finding your meaning in this world and you can only sleep with so many 20-year-olds before you realize you’re kidding yourself.
Many of her clients may be sad. Think about all the tortured souls that SPs must come across day to day. Their clients come from all walks of life but they also probably see a disproporionate amount of broken men, lonely men, socially awkward men, unattractive men. Kinda goes with the territory. I just don't see anything offensive in her expressing this.
If you have gray hair, were last inside a gym during a Bush presidency and eats Arby’s on the go between software sales pitches, you can’t screw twice in an hour.
she is smart, I feel bad that I did not fuck her enough. I feel even worse that she did not find me interesting enough to write about me.
she is smart, I feel bad that I did not fuck her enough. I feel even worse that she did not find me interesting enough to write about me.
In Keebler's defence (and god, I can't believe I'm defending him....)I'm not judging anyone. I was merely pointing out the irony of passing judgement on what is "normal" on a board populated by a large number of men who cheat on their SO and by men and women who engage in activities that most "normal" people consider wrong/perverted/abnormal/etc.
He said that her BF is fucked up for letting his GF prostitute herself. Not that "Bianca" is fucked up, though after reading the highlights that "Digitally Yours" posted, I can't say I like this woman, but that's another post. (Perhaps the truth hurts)
But getting back to Keeb's point - which is, "what kind of man lets his GF prostitute herself"? I have to agree.
Now, from my own point of view, I'm all for open relationships, swinging, 3-somes, whatever you want to call it. But I'm a part of it and it's just a time to time kink. When in comes to sex, I'm pretty open and most guys would think my attitude is probably pretty fucked up because it's not traditional. But I am protective of the women that I date and in most ways extremely traditional.
This "Conor" fellow - he is an Engineer? And he can't find work? Fucking try harder buddy so your GF doesn't have to go out and sell herself to the men that she clearly loathes. The PEO (Professional Engineers Ontario) are crying for Engineers and actually have programs encouraging foreign Engineers to immigrate to Canada. And Conor can't find a job? Fuck, I could find him a job tomorrow. From reading part of the blog, I'm telling you that "Conor" is a lazy ass. At the end of the day, I picture a spoiled lazy asshole who has spent most of his life in school and people have always looked after him and paid his bills. I've met this kind of guy a thousand times in my life. I picture a guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone, who marches to the beat of his own drum because he's "different" when in reality - he's just selfish and lazy. (Not a combination of traits that most women would respect in the long run, regardless of how well read he is.)
So the issue is not about one of judgement of HER, it's judgement of HIM.
Here's the hell of it.
If "Bianca" and "Conor" (Dylan and Dylan) are still together, and in fact remain together (doubtful) at some point I guaran-fucking-tee, that she will get into it with him and the issue of her being a prostitute will come up and she's going to start throwing things in the aprartment and she's going to scream at him with every ounce of pent up rage that she has in her and she's going to lash out in a fury at "Conor":
"What kind of a man are you that you'd let the woman you supposedly love prostitute herself?"
"You never once tried to stop me"
"Do you know how humiliating that is?"
"I supported you on my back, and you call yourself a man"
"How do you think that makes me feel?"
Don't think for one nano second that this conversation is not going to happen. This girl grew up in Hamilton Ontario, the daughther of a firefighter and a secretary. She's born and raised in Steeltown and no matter how "hip" or "cool" she may think she is, at the end of the day, we are all products of where we come from and in her heart of hearts, she will despise Conor for letting her do what she did. He should have stopped her, but he didn't.
Conor and Bianca are doomed.
I know I'm just picking and choosing excerpts, but I just can't resist.
The whole idea behind this hooker thing is that I have to go to every call I get. Of course, if I show up and meet three guys twice my size in the hotel room, I can be back in the car before I can say “grossest bachelor party ever,” but unless I’ve explicitly blacklisted a client, I have to go. To put it very un-delicately, my clients are often the “dregs” of the male sex. They deal with a lot of rejection from women and come to me for the “sure thing.”
Speaking of which, not to derail, but I have to cover another element of prostitution that astounded me when I started: Men, why are you all so bad at sex?
A lot of you are pretty much terrible at it. I am astounded men know so little about women’s bodies and, more confusingly, their own bodies. It’s like a starving person sitting down to a Big Mac and fries and smearing the food all over his face. How can you want something so badly and perform it so poorly?
Admittedly, claiming all men are bad at sex from data collected from my clients is perhaps a sampling error. It’s safe to assume that the men I see don’t have a lot of sex, at least not on a regular basis. The single guys usually resign themselves to escorts and masturbation and the married guys… well, they resign themselves to escorts and masturbation.
how about the Lester Diamond character from "Casino"? The girl still loved him no matter what.In Keebler's defence (and god, I can't believe I'm defending him....)
He said that her BF is fucked up for letting his GF prostitute herself. Not that "Bianca" is fucked up, though after reading the highlights that "Digitally Yours" posted, I can't say I like this woman, but that's another post. (Perhaps the truth hurts)
But getting back to Keeb's point - which is, "what kind of man lets his GF prostitute herself"? I have to agree.
Now, from my own point of view, I'm all for open relationships, swinging, 3-somes, whatever you want to call it. But I'm a part of it and it's just a time to time kink. When in comes to sex, I'm pretty open and most guys would think my attitude is probably pretty fucked up because it's not traditional. But I am protective of the women that I date and in most ways extremely traditional.
This "Conor" fellow - he is an Engineer? And he can't find work? Fucking try harder buddy so your GF doesn't have to go out and sell herself to the men that she clearly loathes. The PEO (Professional Engineers Ontario) are crying for Engineers and actually have programs encouraging foreign Engineers to immigrate to Canada. And Conor can't find a job? Fuck, I could find him a job tomorrow. From reading part of the blog, I'm telling you that "Conor" is a lazy ass. At the end of the day, I picture a spoiled lazy asshole who has spent most of his life in school and people have always looked after him and paid his bills. I've met this kind of guy a thousand times in my life. I picture a guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone, who marches to the beat of his own drum because he's "different" when in reality - he's just selfish and lazy. (Not a combination of traits that most women would respect in the long run, regardless of how well read he is.)
So the issue is not about one of judgement of HER, it's judgement of HIM.
Here's the hell of it.
If "Bianca" and "Conor" (Dylan and Dylan) are still together, and in fact remain together (doubtful) at some point I guaran-fucking-tee, that she will get into it with him and the issue of her being a prostitute will come up and she's going to start throwing things in the aprartment and she's going to scream at him with every ounce of pent up rage that she has in her and she's going to lash out in a fury at "Conor":
"What kind of a man are you that you'd let the woman you supposedly love prostitute herself?"
"You never once tried to stop me"
"Do you know how humiliating that is?"
"I supported you on my back, and you call yourself a man"
"How do you think that makes me feel?"
Don't think for one nano second that this conversation is not going to happen. This girl grew up in Hamilton Ontario, the daughther of a firefighter and a secretary. She's born and raised in Steeltown and no matter how "hip" or "cool" she may think she is, at the end of the day, we are all products of where we come from and in her heart of hearts, she will despise Conor for letting her do what she did. He should have stopped her, but he didn't.
Conor and Bianca are doomed.
Ah yes, but James Woods is the pimpest pimp who ever pimped.how about the Lester Diamond character from "Casino"? The girl still loved him no matter what.
She's completely truthful and funny at the same time. She's saying things that every SP knows to be true but can't say . . . until they're retired too.I know I'm just picking and choosing excerpts, but I just can't resist.
"Speaking of which, not to derail, but I have to cover another element of prostitution that astounded me when I started: Men, why are you all so bad at sex?
A lot of you are pretty much terrible at it. I am astounded men know so little about women’s bodies and, more confusingly, their own bodies. It’s like a starving person sitting down to a Big Mac and fries and smearing the food all over his face. How can you want something so badly and perform it so poorly?
Admittedly, claiming all men are bad at sex from data collected from my clients is perhaps a sampling error. It’s safe to assume that the men I see don’t have a lot of sex, at least not on a regular basis. The single guys usually resign themselves to escorts and masturbation and the married guys… well, they resign themselves to escorts and masturbation."
I agree, it's strange. The boyfriends of escorts usually fall into two categories. 1) They're the submissive/cuckold type that actually have a fetish knowing their girl has sex with other men 2) They're essentially pimps that have many "girlfriends" (whether she knows it or not) and are happy to keep her around to pay all the bills and more.
You won't find many normal men (9 to 5 nor financially wealthy) accepting of their girlfriend fucking other guys. It's the antithesis of normal manhood.
But what is so obviously strange to most of us often seems normal to SPs because so many of them live in an upside-down world.
For example, if many of us made the kind of money SPs do, we'd save, invest, and live in relative prosperity. Yet this common sense approach is so alien to many SPs that after hooking for a full decade, they don't have a single dollar to show for it. Many of those forgettable older female cashiers working at Walmart or serving up your Starbucks coffee were once beautiful young strippers and escorts living the fast life.
you really do use sweeping generalizations...it only cloaks ignorance........i liked the other Got Gusto better..
At some point, Conor does get a job. But she continued escorting. Even after she paid off her debts, she continued escorting. She finally stops after apparently being sent to an old age home for a client. At least that's the way she organized the events in her blog. Maybe in real life, it played out differently.This "Conor" fellow - he is an Engineer? And he can't find work? Fucking try harder buddy so your GF doesn't have to go out and sell herself to the men that she clearly loathes.
it,s funny,during 2002, 2003, and parts of 2004..i saw quite a number of SP,s.....then at one point i came to thinking, how do these women perceive me?... a middle aged loser.?..socially inept,,too shy to meet civilians?....i thought none of these of myself....but for this reason [among others] i stopped seeing them....i didnt want them to be judgemental of me....now that im 61, the ick factor has kicked in and i would feel embarrased to pay a 20 something hottie...all she would be doing is grinning and bearing it...make no mistake , i still have the urge to pay....its harder to quit than when i quit smoking ..lol....now and again, i thinkof contacting a big busted babe.....but for some strange reason i hold back because somehow ithink, that she would really just rather be somewhere else.....so i dont bother..lol
Titilating, but in the end, so sad for her. She clearly hated what she did yet trys to spin it to how she finally is happy, LMAO. Perhaps life will teach her, as a previous poster said, that her "perfect" boyfriend, and great lover, is really a boy not a man. A man who cared about her would not pimp her out, rather take any job to protect and care for her. That good sex and real love are not the same. That someday she will age, and those great tits will fall to her knees and her ass will expand to size of a pumpkin. She will look at her 20 yr old co-workers and understand, and feel sad she mocked all those older guys, because she is now one. After a string of user guys, will end up in her own apartment, with a cat. The whole part about what she thinks about anything is so boring and useless.
