Blogger leaked order to raid Hells Angels

[CapitalGuy]

Make the pain and humiliation end.

Please.

I want this thread to die, yet I keep coming back to it. I want it to be over, yet I know that by posting this reply, I help it live. But I cannot resist. Its like a cocaine thread. (Which, ironically, is also controlled by bikers.)

Just kidding. We all know its the tow truck drivers.

 

[great bear]

Lets all agree that HA members are sweet, law a biding, highly principled, totally honest. Now kill this thread!

 

[Esco!]

All they do is take stuff like this http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_10838.aspx
and copy it to their site. Interesting side note, this cop has been on paid leave since Oct 2004. So thats over 2 1/2 years of my hard earned tax dollars being wasted on a guy who lost his temper because someone stopped at an amber light. According to the report it looks like this cop is on paid leave because of his temper.

As someone who has been on the receiving end of that kind of shit from cops, I'm glad to see someone caught it on tape.

Oh man, I wish that was me the cop hit!!
I'd sue the force for $20 million, settle for 5 mill and piss off to the Bahamas

 

[fuji]

As someone who has been on the receiving end of that kind of shit from cops, I'm glad to see someone caught it on tape.

What does this have to do with the HA? Nothing.

Thanks for pointing out that the system works, though.

 

[Esco!]

Nope, I've been saying it all along, there's a double standard out there that is wrong.

But Sheik, I could also argue the system does work to some extent, the cop that did the beating was suspended for 2 years prior, so there is a system in place to weed out troubled cops and kick them off the force.

 

[ImanHa]

Whatsa matter Fugi? One a your rubber gun heroes blow a fuse?
Too bad that wasnt a biker jumpin off his bike beating a pedestrian huh fug? Youdda been jerkin off.

 

[fuji]

He was suspended and still receiving a paycheque 18 months later, that is what I consider wrong.

I don't like unions either, but that's how unionized shops work. So what's your gripe here really?

You've shown that the system works. The guy got suspended, investigated, and now charged. You've pointed out that unions make that a long and slow process, but at the end of the day, this guy was taken off the street and facing a serious investigation, subsequently, charged with a crime.

Of course when the HA's get their fair day in court and LOSE, and wind up declared a criminal organization, convicted of extortion, you think that's unfair.

If anyone fucked up at work they would be suspended without pay or fired. But a cop continues to get paid, thats WRONG.

No, you are wrong. An average joe at any unionized shop gets the same treatment: Suspension while under investigation and then terminated if the allegations prove to have merit.

So I will point out again that this has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread. You continue to try and defend the HA by pointing out utterly unrelated things you think are wrong somehwere else.

 

[WhaWhaWha]

suspended and still receiving a paycheque 18 months later...
there are quite a few assholes out there that do not deserve to be in a position of authority

Most of them are burned out after a couple of years. They often take short cuts through proper procedure, making arrests where none is needed or sidestepping a needed arrest because they dont like the victims attitude. So they make up some weak excuse like "lack of evidence" despite 3 eye witnesses or some nonsense. Resorting to excessive force when it isn't needed. Letting their personal opinions guide their actions to the point of contradicting the law.

 

[Esco!]

The guy got suspended, investigated, and now charged. You've pointed out that unions make that a long and slow process, but at the end of the day, this guy was taken off the street and facing a serious investigation, subsequently, charged with a crime.

But thats only because the assault was videotaped.
Had it not been the victim may very well have been charged with assaulting the "cop", probably would've lost, been convicted and had a criminal record.

 

[Serpent]

But thats only because the assault was videotaped.
Had it not been the victim may very well have been charged with assaulting the "cop", probably would've lost, been convicted and had a criminal record.

And that is because the legal system (atleast in US) assumes innocence till proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

You do understand that the burden of proof is also required for HA prosecutions?

That is taken advantage of by HAs AND dirty cops.

300+ posts later, we are still debating equivalence between an organization that proclaims it's "outside norms of society" status vs. a public funded police force that exists for protection of the public. I mean..their charters themselves tell you what you need to know of them.

 

[red]

Jesus Fuji, You got a lot of growing up to do and I mean a lot of it. Cops have seized property without a trial, without solid proof and usually with made up bullshit.

The guy you are talking to has first hand knowledge of the facts and he is telling you his side of the facts. There has been no trial yet and you are already saying they are guilty. That kind of attitude is exactly what the cops want from you and everyone else.

You are quick to judge without all the facts and you've done it many times. Remember your tirade about incalls and the brass rail? No matter how many people beat you over the head about the bullshit you were spouting you kept at it.

I'm going to suggest that Imaha ignore you and for what its worth, cops are not always right. Yes there are quite a few that do their job well and abide by the law to its letter and then there are those that are nothing more than school yard bullies on a power trip. Those few screw it up for all the rest of the police and its not just confined to the metro force, its worldwide.

Many of you missed the point that I stressed earlier that was underlined and requoted several times.

with respect- but imanha- might be a bit biased

 

[Esco!]

Thank god its the weekend folks!!

Time to crack open a beer


*hopes to kill the thread by getting everyone drunk*

 

[red]

Thank god its the weekend folks!!

Time to crack open a beer


*hopes to kill the thread by getting everyone drunk*

i would but the police seized my beer under the rico laws

 

[LancsLad]

i would but the police seized my beer under the rico laws

At harbourfront they have Porto Rico laws.

 

[C Dick]

So I finally went to realdealnews.com, lured not by the opportunity to hear the real truth, but in order to get the lurid details of the cruise with hot girls. Initially I was impressed by the butt-naked chick front and centre, I doubt that the OPP site is that impressive. But ultimately the site crashed when I attempted to access the event calendar, even crashing my Terb session. So I will remain innocent of the real truth for now.

 

[ImanHa]

The site is very busy. Just try again. Over 10 million hits a month.
www.realdealnews.com

 

[BuffNaked]

The site is very busy. Just try again. Over 10 million hits a month.
www.realdealnews.com

I really wish that site was easier to read. The big fonts and NSFW pics really take away from the message that the site is promoting.

 

[C Dick]

Yes, today the site worked perfectly. The NSFW pics are one of the main reasons to go, though they are actually pretty tame, there were no full-frontal shots that I could see. The big fonts and mystery links make it a little harder to navigate, but they fit the message.

 

[C Dick]

I noticed today that there was a massage parlour raid up in Wasaga Beach, which I assume is documented in the massage section. The article mentioned that the police had seized a Hummer (I kid you not) that belonged to one of the attendants. I saw that and I immediately thought of this thread. How you could you possibly justify stealling someone's car, because she allegedly has been...having sex with people! But because she is an MPA, regular people consider it acceptable. I assume that it is the same with Hells Angels, because of who they are, the police can get away with stealing their things before convicting them. It was bad enough to do it to bikers, but to do it to MPAs is horrible. I assume that on this board MPAs will get a lot more sympathy than bikers.

 

[fuji]

I agree with Sheik for once, although we probably differ in the conclusions we'd draw from this.

The conclusion I draw from it is that being an MPA should not be a crime. Likely she DID pay for the car with the proceeds of illegal work, and in my opinion, it's very unfornuate, and should be changed, that it's illegal work.