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Is this your attempt to debate? Lol Continue spreading your Liberal propaganda.
No, but you argue like larue, pushing 20 year old talking points that ignore reality and new tech.
Norway is mostly EV's now, they used their fossil fuel cash to pay for transition and they are doing great.
Heat pumps will do what we need for heating now, EV's are cheaper to run, wind and solar is doing great for new generation.

Renewables are cheaper and better and there are plenty of storage options.

 

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No, but you argue like larue, pushing 20 year old talking points that ignore reality and new tech.
Norway is mostly EV's now, they used their fossil fuel cash to pay for transition and they are doing great.
Heat pumps will do what we need for heating now, EV's are cheaper to run, wind and solar is doing great for new generation.

Renewables are cheaper and better and there are plenty of storage options.

Many of the realities of 20 years ago still apply. If they did not, they would not need subsidies and regulations to have more EVs. If it were a better product, people would buy it but as it stands it is not. Norway did not have a far-left lunatic like Trudeau who blocked pipelines. He had the opportunity to cash in and made a deal to export our LNG to Germany and Japan, deals worth multi-billions of dollars. This would have allowed us to have a 50% reduction in taxes and that money could have been used to construct many charging stations. Instead, Norway cashed in and made the deal with Germany, the deal if worth over $30 billion. Norway is a rich country because of its oil exports, they got the funds to build many charging stations and are not bringing hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers giving them a free hotel and monthly paychecks.

It does not look like you ever been to Norway but there are a few realities you need to understand. Norway is a small long thing country with just a few highways. Canada is much more vast where the distances are a lot more. Here lies the difference is the amount of more chargers needed in Canada not to mention Norway's population is only 5.5 million while in Canada it is 41 million. In Norways you need a few good chargers along the few major highways and you are good, this is not the case for Canada. In Canada you need a lot more chargers per highways and the coverage has to be good. Chargers got to be available on all highways, not just the major ones with highest population density otherwise EVs would not work.

Another issue is private chargers. Norway already uses the 230v standard, in Canada we use 110v. So that means all the electrical systems would need to be upgraded. There are so many tall apartment buildings and many of these buildings were built in the 70s without chargers in mind. It would require major modifications especially with large undeground parking lots. This has to be done before several hundred chargers can be installed in apartment buildings and condos.

Another thing to consider are the distances travelled. The distances travelled by Canadians is much more especially for those living away the large cities. Commuting 100 km for work is common in Canada. The speeds on Canada highways are between 100kph to 130kph while in Norway it is 80 to 100kph. Range is greatly reduced when over 100kph. In winter the ranges are reduced to half. And lastly the issue is of charging, one cannot charge a battery at the same speed as refueling. On a level 3 charger it can take about 30 mins to charge about 250km of range. Still one can refuel in a matter of minutes. Fossil fuels allow the delivery of dense energy in a light volume.

And finally, Norway has mostly hydro power but this is only possible depending on geography. This is not so true for Canada. Quebec has lots of hydro power but not in the rest of the country. Wind and solar can supplement when there is winds and sun which presents an engineering challenge. So even if EVs are used, it still has to be charged from the same network that provides the power which is very likely to not be a renewable source. And do not forget the atrocious conditions for people mining the minerals needed for batteries. I can go on, but you see that is the issue with Liberals, always virtue signalling more concerned with their ideology. I like to be pragmatic and these are the realities

Norway has also started forcing EVs long before Canada since the 90s. People are buying EVs not because they want to but because they are being forced by the government either by high taxes and penalties, subsidies, or restrictions. This is a type of Socialism where the government removes your choice in the name of the greater good. We all know you are a Marxist. You do not believe in the free market or that people should have the choice to make a decision as to what to buy. Remember, when the automobile came out, the government did not force people to leave their horse drawn carriages to drive a car, they did that because the free market had a better product, it is as simple as that.
 
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Many of the realities of 20 years ago still apply. If they did not, they would not need subsidies and regulations to have more EVs.
Let's just stop there and do some basic math.
Does renewable energy get $30 billion a year in subsidies?
Is it renewable energy that can't exist without subsidies or fossil fuels?

 
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Let's just stop there and do some basic math.
Does renewable energy get $30 billion a year in subsidies?
Is it renewable energy that can't exist without subsidies or fossil fuels?

Now you see what I mean. Do you not see how the Liberal government is scamming everyone with carbon taxes?? Looool They claim it is for the environment yet they subsidize the oil industry. Time to wake up. The Trudeau / Carney Liberals are liars and use climate change as a way to add more taxes so they can make more money to fund their spending spree.

FYI: I made this clear many times, I am 100% subsidies and also against taxes. I am for a free market without government influence. I stick with what I said, the best thing is for government to stay out.
 
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Now you see what I mean. Do you not see how the Liberal government is scamming everyone with carbon taxes?? Looool They claim it is for the environment yet they subsidize the oil industry. Time to wake up. The Trudeau / Carney Liberals are liars and use climate change as a way to add more taxes so they can make more money to fund their spending spree.

FYI: I made this clear many times, I am 100% subsidies and also against taxes. I am for a free market without government influence. I stick with what I said, the best thing is for government to stay out.
You want the government to stay away from regulating businesses?
 

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You want the government to stay away from regulating businesses?
Of course and from regulating ppl as in prostitution laws and covid mandates. Government's role should be limited to enforcing property rights, enforcing the law, protection of the country, and infrastructure. The smaller the government, the better. Big government is the reason corporations are at an advantage, they got the resources to get favors and policies that benefit them.
 
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Of course and from regulating ppl as in prostitution laws and covid mandates. Government's role should be limited to enforcing property rights, enforcing the law, protection of the country, and infrastructure. The smaller the government, the better. Big government is the reason corporations are at an advantage, they got the resources to get favors and policies that benefit them.
That's not what Canadians want or what we have.
Maybe you want a place set up more like the US or Russia.

Though big corporations there are at a favour because of laws like citizens united.
 

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That's not what Canadians want or what we have.
Maybe you want a place set up more like the US or Russia.

Though big corporations there are at a favour because of laws like citizens united.
They are being misled by Sanders and the like that Socialism is good. A lot of Canadians do not want Socialism either. You already proven yourself to be a Marxist. Read the Communist Manifesto, you repeat all that is in it. How did that work out for the USSR or Venezuela??

For example covid mandates, the ppl spoke and got fed up and held Ottawa captive. The movement caught on all over the world. Liberal fanatics like you are for covid mandates. What they did the last two years is an example of McCarthism.
 

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They are being misled by Sanders and the like that Socialism is good. A lot of Canadians do not want Socialism either. You already proven yourself to be a Marxist. Read the Communist Manifesto, you repeat all that is in it. How did that work out for the USSR or Venezuela??

For example covid mandates, the ppl spoke and got fed up and held Ottawa captive. The movement caught on all over the world. Liberal fanatics like you are for covid mandates. What they did the last two years is an example of McCarthism.
We are socialist, its all just about the degrees.

Public roads are socialism.
Public schools are socialism
Libraries, welfare, health care are all socialism.

Its about how much.
 

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We are socialist, its all just about the degrees.

Public roads are socialism.
Public schools are socialism
Libraries, welfare, health care are all socialism.

Its about how much.
That is not Socialism. Public roads is part of the responsibility of the government. Infrastructure falls on their responsibility. But you confirmed that you support a wealth redistribution scheme, that is Socialist. Taxing people and redistributing it to others is Marxist. Something the Trudeau government has been doing. All is bad. Welfare should not even exist, it is ridiculous to have. Look at healthcare, it is a disaster. People cannot find family doctors or wait hours in Emergency and the Liberals are piling hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers who are putting more pressure on healthcare. There is so much mismanagement and corruption in the Liberal party. I am for a minarchist government.
 
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That is not Socialism. Public roads is part of the responsibility of the government. Infrastructure falls on their responsibility. But you confirmed that you support a wealth redistribution scheme, that is Socialist. Taxing people and redistributing it to others is Marxist. Something the Trudeau government has been doing. All is bad. Welfare should not even exist, it is ridiculous to have. Look at healthcare, it is a disaster. People cannot find family doctors or wait hours in Emergency and the Liberals are piling hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers who are putting more pressure on healthcare. There is so much mismanagement and corruption in the Liberal party. I am for a minarchist government.
Sounds like your dream state would be more like Somali.
Where there is no government and a man can truly be a man.
 

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Sounds like your dream state would be more like Somali.
Where there is no government and a man can truly be a man.
Absolutely not. I SAID micharny, NOT anarchy. You do not understand the difference. I am talking about places like Switzerland.

Canada was good till Trudeau came in power. He took it to the next level to have Marxism and total corruption. I have been a life long Liberal voter till Trudeau came in power. I can never accept such corruption. He caused so much poverty with mass immigration, bringing hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers to give them so many social benefits and we Canadians get the bill. Taxes keep going up and I get nothing in return for it, it all goes to asylum seekers. And also I will never forget how they locked ppl up under covid mandates. Trudeau did the Emergencies Act, the act of a dictator. Only two PM ever did that, both were Trudeau's. The same cabinet that supported Trudeau's policies are still there even if Carney is now the leader.

The ppl that still vote Liberal are clueless. Like Einstein said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results, that is insanity. The majority wanted Trudeau gone, just because it is a different face, does not mean it will be different. Same cabinet, same agenda.
 
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Absolutely not. I SAID micharny, NOT anarchy. You do not understand the difference. I am talking about places like Switzerland.
You'd hate Switzerland, higher taxes and more social services.
Even the US is probably too commie for you.

How about Russia?
Not so much in the way of taxes or services.
Though they still pay for roads and schools.

Maybe Argentina in its present, populist, version.
 

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Carney did pretty well at the Radio Canada Interview, considering him being a novice with The French Language.
Pee Pee on the other hand was desperately trying to distance himself from Trump. Something that the majority of voters do not buy!!

Quoting from a media source that is getting multi million dollar paychecks from the Liberal government. I would take that with a grain of salt. Lots of biases. Why do you not explain in your own words how is Poilievre like Trump??
 

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You'd hate Switzerland, higher taxes and more social services.
Even the US is probably too commie for you.

How about Russia?
Not so much in the way of taxes or services.
Though they still pay for roads and schools.

Maybe Argentina in its present, populist, version.
Lol In your dreams.


^^^^^ Switzerland has low taxes, much lower then Canada and it is a true free market in the truest sense. Also everyone knows that Switzerland is a tax haven. The USA has been putting a lot of pressure in Switzerland to charge more taxes btw. Here is a picture of the tax rate Switzerland.png

There are many other countries with low tax rates and they got public services. In fact their infrastructure is far better then Canada. Bermuda, Andorra, UAE, Cayman Islands. They work very well and attract many wealthy individuals. What does Canada attract? Asylum seekers wanting to get freebies? See before Trudeau I was a Marxist like you, I used to call myself a Democratic Socialist till Trudeau came along. Since then my eyes opened. I never seen so much corruption. He caused a housing crisis, I am paying more and more taxes but getting no benefit from it. I see asylum seekers getting everything, free hotels, monthly paychecks, healthcare far better then any off can hope to get even from work insurance. They cost taxpayers billions of dollars. Last year Doug Ford asked for millions of dollars from the Federal government for asylum seekers. But you see we taxpayers pay for it. They are leechers, a drain on our resources. They contribute nothing to the country.


^^^^^ Canada wants to bring thousands of Gazan refugees. Upon arrival each adult will get a $3000 check, and each child a $1500 upon landing. So a family with 3 kids, will get $10,500. These people tend to have a lot of kids and they got money. This does not include all the other social benefits they will get. Do not forget the thousands of Sudanese refugees they will bring.


^^^^ Here is more. The Feds wanted $411 million for refugee healthcare. This was a program that the Harper government cut and he was right to do so. It was not fair to make Canadian taxpayers pay for foreigners which was much more generous then what Canadians get. The refugees under this program get free dental care, prescription medication, psychologists, hearing aids, oxygen equipment, home care, among other things. Canadians do not even get these things, we got to pay for that. Even with coverage we pay for, the coverage is not 100% for some of these things, and they get it all for free.

The so called Scandanavian countries, welfare states work from them because they do not got uncontrolled immigration like Canada. They manage their public services very efficiently. I am okay to pay taxes if it is spent and managed properly. But wait, it is impossible to find a family doctor. You need a specialist, but no one ever answers the phone. You go to the emergency and you wait hours. I pay my taxes but am not getting the service. Garbage collection had got cut, at least here in Montreal. Many other things has been cut, but taxes keep on going up. We pay for stupid things like bike paths. Our mayor is wasting money to put bike paths and turning streets into one lane one way streets while the population grows.

As you can see these are my reasons for despising a big welfare state. And one last thing are covid mandates. They locked us up and shut down so many businesses while government did not loose one dime. Doug Ford is a Liberal. He imposed the longest lockdowns. They forced vaccines with vaccine passports. These are things I will never forgive. Carney is Trudeau 2.0. Worst most corrupt people ever.
 
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Lol In your dreams.


^^^^^ Switzerland has low taxes, much lower then Canada and it is a true free market in the truest sense. Also everyone knows that Switzerland is a tax haven. The USA has been putting a lot of pressure in Switzerland to charge more taxes btw. Here is a picture of the tax rate View attachment 429056

There are many other countries with low tax rates and they got public services. In fact their infrastructure is far better then Canada. Bermuda, Andorra, UAE, Cayman Islands. They work very well and attract many wealthy individuals. What does Canada attract? Asylum seekers wanting to get freebies? See before Trudeau I was a Marxist like you, I used to call myself a Democratic Socialist till Trudeau came along. Since then my eyes opened. I never seen so much corruption. He caused a housing crisis, I am paying more and more taxes but getting no benefit from it. I see asylum seekers getting everything, free hotels, monthly paychecks, healthcare far better then any off can hope to get even from work insurance. They cost taxpayers billions of dollars. Last year Doug Ford asked for millions of dollars from the Federal government for asylum seekers. But you see we taxpayers pay for it. They are leechers, a drain on our resources. They contribute nothing to the country.


^^^^^ Canada wants to bring thousands of Gazan refugees. Upon arrival each adult will get a $3000 check, and each child a $1500 upon landing. So a family with 3 kids, will get $10,500. These people tend to have a lot of kids and they got money. This does not include all the other social benefits they will get. Do not forget the thousands of Sudanese refugees they will bring.


^^^^ Here is more. The Feds wanted $411 million for refugee healthcare. This was a program that the Harper government cut and he was right to do so. It was not fair to make Canadian taxpayers pay for foreigners which was much more generous then what Canadians get. The refugees under this program get free dental care, prescription medication, psychologists, hearing aids, oxygen equipment, home care, among other things. Canadians do not even get these things, we got to pay for that. Even with coverage we pay for, the coverage is not 100% for some of these things, and they get it all for free.

The so called Scandanavian countries, welfare states work from them because they do not got uncontrolled immigration like Canada. They manage their public services very efficiently. I am okay to pay taxes if it is spent and managed properly. But wait, it is impossible to find a family doctor. You need a specialist, but no one ever answers the phone. You go to the emergency and you wait hours. I pay my taxes but am not getting the service. Garbage collection had got cut, at least here in Montreal. Many other things has been cut, but taxes keep on going up. We pay for stupid things like bike paths. Our mayor is wasting money to put bike paths and turning streets into one lane one way streets while the population grows.

As you can see these are my reasons for despising a big welfare state. And one last thing are covid mandates. They locked us up and shut down so many businesses while government did not loose one dime. Doug Ford is a Liberal. He imposed the longest lockdowns. They forced vaccines with vaccine passports. These are things I will never forgive. Carney is Trudeau 2.0. Worst most corrupt people ever.
Ah, you want to turn Canada into a tax haven.
Or you could just move to the Cayman Islands instead of trying to convince millions of people to change their country.
 

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Quoting from a media source that is getting multi million dollar paychecks from the Liberal government. I would take that with a grain of salt. Lots of biases. Why do you not explain in your own words how is Poilievre like Trump??
When you compare Trudeau to "Marxism" then it is obvious where you the source for your extremist POVs.
Can you explain how The Liberals are supposed to be "Marxist" in the first place?
Pee Pee on the other hand has very similar talking points like Trump, such as anything to the Left of them is "Wokeism", "Radical Left", "DEI" and even your "Marxism" nonsense.
Pee Pee boasts about his "Crowd Sizes" in a very similar manner to Trump!!

Canada was good till Trudeau came in power. He took it to the next level to have Marxism and total corruption. I have been a life long Liberal voter till Trudeau came in power. I can never accept such corruption. He caused so much poverty with mass immigration, bringing hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers to give them so many social benefits and we Canadians get the bill. Taxes keep going up and I get nothing in return for it, it all goes to asylum seekers. And also I will never forget how they locked ppl up under covid mandates. Trudeau did the Emergencies Act, the act of a dictator. Only two PM ever did that, both were Trudeau's. The same cabinet that supported Trudeau's policies are still there even if Carney is now the leader.

The ppl that still vote Liberal are clueless. Like Einstein said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results, that is insanity. The majority wanted Trudeau gone, just because it is a different face, does not mean it will be different. Same cabinet, same agenda.
 
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Ah, you want to turn Canada into a tax haven.
Or you could just move to the Cayman Islands instead of trying to convince millions of people to change their country.
And you can move to Cuba instead of convincing millions of people that Marxism is good. On April 28 the voters will decide which party will lead.
 
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