Charlie Sheen questions 9/11!!!!!

[dreamer]

but their credentials look 1000 times more credible then the rumour website 'snopes' link you are using to support your analysis

I am not using snopes to support my analysis, as I do not have any analysis, I just provided a link to answer your question "where did the plane go"

There are also just as many with impressive credentials who do not support the conspiracy theories, but you never quote them

Also, your experts look at photographs and ask how is this possible, well that is the thing about disasters, they are unpredictable, just ask the firemen who survived the WTC collapse in the stairwell on the third floor. Your experts would say that was impossible even though there is living proof.

 

[dreamer]

I believe the Israelis knew about the plan, probably down to the minutiae. Why I think so, is because they only lost 2 people in the episode, and these guys were on the planes, probably a result of ordinary misfortune. Look at the Nationalities that lost people

When I read post like this it makes me wonder about people. Given that only two Chinese citizens died and the fact that there are alot more Chinese in the world than Israelis would a reasonable person conclude that the Chinese knew as well.

I believe that many of the jewish faith died that day as did many races and faith.

 

[dreamer]

If you want to stretch your brain, read this site. If you’re at all amenable to persuasion this series of arguments is bound to challenge a person’s view of reality. I have neither the time, nor qualifications, nor the energy to absorb and understand this document, but it makes an interesting read, nevertheless.

http://homepage.mac.com/ardeshir/9-11.html

I read the first story of the five "Israeli army veterans" and followed all of the links to the story. This is another example of how someone can manipulate the facts to suit their purposes, of how initial news reports get the facts wrong, and how eye witnesses are mistaken.

In the end the were five illegals working for a moving company who ended up facing deportation charges.

 

[papasmerf]

Consider this people

If you had a loved one on flight 93 would you perfer knowing that your loved one might have help thwart the terrorists? Or would you like to think the meaning you have come to know their death ment is being questioned by a bunch of moronic people with nothing better to do?

 

[Mcluhan]

Consider this people

If you had a loved one on flight 93 would you perfer knowing that your loved one might have help thwart the terrorists? Or would you like to think the meaning you have come to know their death ment is being questioned by a bunch of moronic people with nothing better to do?

Papa, what are doing in a conversation with a bunch of moronic people with nothing better to do... let me guess...you have nothing better to do?

 

[johnhenrygalt]

It's time to check Charlie Sheen's bank records, assuming that anyone could get access to his secret offshore accounts. He no doubt received a hefty payment from the Chinese.

Who stood the most to gain from this global USA-Muslim confrontation? George Bush? Hardly - it almost got him booted from office. The USA business community? While there is money to be made over Iraq, there's always more money to make in peace time. Big Oil? If anything, this will give impetus to the search for alternative fuels which eventually will send Big Oil down the same path as last century's Big Coal. The expense of the war will send the USA economy into a tail spin sooner or later - the combination of tax cuts and massive deficit spending will be devastating. It will make the post-Vietnam recession look like a picnic. And with reduced consumption in the USA and a shrinking economy, USA Big Oil will suffer.

If you want to know who orchestrated the whole Sept 11/War in Iraq cycle, follow the money. Follow the power. Think about it.

For centuries, the British gained ascendancy over the continental powers by playing them off one against the other. Then the USA saw an opportunity to play Britain off against Germany, locking the Brits in a life and death struggle on the continent. The Brits "won" with USA help, and it set up 60 years of USA dominance. Now the USA is falling into the same trap that they themselves set for the Brits almost a century ago. They are being locked in a life and death struggle with the Islamic world while a great power sits back and looks on, all the while building its industrial, financial and military might.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Chinese planned the whole damn thing.

In early 2001, the Chinese sent special ops units into Afghanistan to nab Bin Laden and hide him in Tibet. They made him a deal - orchestrate and order 9-11 or die the death of the Chinese water torture. Bin Laden ordered the hits in exchange for his life. The Chinese have kept him alive, and he lives in a luxurious home on a military compound in western China. He is not afforded freedom of movement. Periodically the Chinese force Bin Laden to make a recording; they film in the mountains and make it seem like he's in Pakistan. He's really in the western extremity of China.

Meanwhile the USA gets stirred up into a dither over the whole affair, wasting shitloads of money and sending their military forces all over the globe. With the flower children of the West focussing on Guantanamo and Abu Garib (sp?) prisons, the Chinese literally get away with murder in Tibet and not a peep is heard. What's even more remarkable is that the Chinese put Bush et al. in power knowing that he'd be itching for a shot at Saddam. In a brilliant move of reverse psychology, the Chinese funded the Democrats prior to the 2000 election, and then leaked news of it to the Republicans. The backlash help propel Bush to power. The Supreme Court of course has long been in the pay of the Red Chinese.

With the West flailing around in Afghanistan looking for OBL, the Chinese were laughing their asses off drinking wine with OBL and getting BJs from young Chinese women on the compound.

Then With the onset of the Iraq invasion, the Chinese sat by quietly while the USA and Europe (natural allies) are set against each other. As the USA digs itself deeper and deeper in debt, and weakens itself daily, the Chinese are poised to take the lead.

Now you might think this is all payback for the NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy in Sarajevo? Not at all. Confrontation with the USA has been Chinese policy since Mao took power. But not all Chinese government decision-makers were comfortable with the Grand 9-11 Design. So the "hawks" engineered the destruction of the Chinese embassy, making it look like the work of NATO bombs. This was enough to convince the rest of the Chinese government to strike at the West with the Grand 9-11 Design.

If you further proof, just Google "Chinese Grand 9-11 Design". Guess what, you won't find anything about their plans. That's how well they covered it up. It's nowhere on the internet.

Until now.

Now, the truth is on TERB.

For the whole world to see.

 

[danmand]

The truth will always come out, sooner or later.

 

[papasmerf]

The truth will always come out, sooner or later.

what would so many do if the truth has always been out?

 

[basketcase]

Nice job John.

As for the air force, it is likely after the second plane hit the tower, every plane was scrambled, if not before. Why were they not shot down? Simply because the President has to order it.

If you were president, how long would you wait before ordering an American commercial plane shot down? Is it an easy decision? Even when it has been decided that the threat is real, you would need to assess whether shooting the plane down in a specific location would save lives or cause more damage.

The only part of this conspiracy that might be believable for the sane is that the last plane was shot down.

 

[rogerstaubach]

It's time to check Charlie Sheen's bank records, assuming that anyone could get access to his secret offshore accounts. He no doubt received a hefty payment from the Chinese.

Who stood the most to gain from this global USA-Muslim confrontation? George Bush? Hardly - it almost got him booted from office. The USA business community? While there is money to be made over Iraq, there's always more money to make in peace time. Big Oil? If anything, this will give impetus to the search for alternative fuels which eventually will send Big Oil down the same path as last century's Big Coal. The expense of the war will send the USA economy into a tail spin sooner or later - the combination of tax cuts and massive deficit spending will be devastating. It will make the post-Vietnam recession look like a picnic. And with reduced consumption in the USA and a shrinking economy, USA Big Oil will suffer.

If you want to know who orchestrated the whole Sept 11/War in Iraq cycle, follow the money. Follow the power. Think about it.

For centuries, the British gained ascendancy over the continental powers by playing them off one against the other. Then the USA saw an opportunity to play Britain off against Germany, locking the Brits in a life and death struggle on the continent. The Brits "won" with USA help, and it set up 60 years of USA dominance. Now the USA is falling into the same trap that they themselves set for the Brits almost a century ago. They are being locked in a life and death struggle with the Islamic world while a great power sits back and looks on, all the while building its industrial, financial and military might.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Chinese planned the whole damn thing.

In early 2001, the Chinese sent special ops units into Afghanistan to nab Bin Laden and hide him in Tibet. They made him a deal - orchestrate and order 9-11 or die the death of the Chinese water torture. Bin Laden ordered the hits in exchange for his life. The Chinese have kept him alive, and he lives in a luxurious home on a military compound in western China. He is not afforded freedom of movement. Periodically the Chinese force Bin Laden to make a recording; they film in the mountains and make it seem like he's in Pakistan. He's really in the western extremity of China.

Meanwhile the USA gets stirred up into a dither over the whole affair, wasting shitloads of money and sending their military forces all over the globe. With the flower children of the West focussing on Guantanamo and Abu Garib (sp?) prisons, the Chinese literally get away with murder in Tibet and not a peep is heard. What's even more remarkable is that the Chinese put Bush et al. in power knowing that he'd be itching for a shot at Saddam. In a brilliant move of reverse psychology, the Chinese funded the Democrats prior to the 2000 election, and then leaked news of it to the Republicans. The backlash help propel Bush to power. The Supreme Court of course has long been in the pay of the Red Chinese.

With the West flailing around in Afghanistan looking for OBL, the Chinese were laughing their asses off drinking wine with OBL and getting BJs from young Chinese women on the compound.

Then With the onset of the Iraq invasion, the Chinese sat by quietly while the USA and Europe (natural allies) are set against each other. As the USA digs itself deeper and deeper in debt, and weakens itself daily, the Chinese are poised to take the lead.

Now you might think this is all payback for the NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy in Sarajevo? Not at all. Confrontation with the USA has been Chinese policy since Mao took power. But not all Chinese government decision-makers were comfortable with the Grand 9-11 Design. So the "hawks" engineered the destruction of the Chinese embassy, making it look like the work of NATO bombs. This was enough to convince the rest of the Chinese government to strike at the West with the Grand 9-11 Design.

If you further proof, just Google "Chinese Grand 9-11 Design". Guess what, you won't find anything about their plans. That's how well they covered it up. It's nowhere on the internet.

Until now.

Now, the truth is on TERB.

For the whole world to see.

I laughed, I cried. I was taken on a rollercoaster ride of Oriental intrigue and espionage. Brilliant expose, delving into the fervent machinations of Red Chinese gobal-dominance strategy and tactics.

Post of the Year.

 

[dreamer]

Revealing 9-11 Stock Trades Could Expose The Terrorist Masterminds
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BOL412B.html

Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIA’s Highest Ranks

http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html

The stock options (puts) were thoroughly investigated by the 9/11 commission

Highly publicized allegations of insider trading in advance of 9/11 generally rest on reports of unusual pre-9/11 trading activity in companies whose stock plummeted after the attacks. Some unusual trading did in fact occur, but each such trade proved to have an innocuous explanation. For example, the volume of put options — instruments that pay off only when a stock drops in price — surged in the parent companies of United Airlines on September 6 and American Airlines on September 10 — highly suspicious trading on its face. Yet, further investigation has revealed that the trading had no connection with 9/11. A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10. Similarly, much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10 was traced to a specific U.S.-based options trading newsletter, faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9, which recommended these trades. The SEC and FBI, aided by other agencies and the securities industry, devoted enormous resources to investigating this issue, including securing the cooperation of many foreign governments. These investigators have found that the apparently suspicious consistently proved innocuous.

 

[Rick123]

The stock options (puts) were thoroughly investigated by the 9/11 commission

Nothing was thoroughly investigated by the 9/11 commission or should I say 9/11 ommission.
And, dreamer, I am not exactly who to approach regarding a position as a disinformationalist, can you refer me to some sources (perhaps your masters). Thanks in advance!

 

[dreamer]

Nothing was thoroughly investigated by the 9/11 commission or should I say 9/11 ommission.
And, dreamer, I am not exactly who to approach regarding a position as a disinformationalist, can you refer me to some sources (perhaps your masters). Thanks in advance!

you have not yet figured it out?

 

[Kristine]

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It's like saying, those "who believe in green men from Mars invading earth in the next 5 years" would be interested in a statement from a person agreeing with their belief and then voting in a poll as to it's likely eventuality of occurring.

Strange people attract strange people. Nuff said.

At the risk of sounding strange... grins... would it have been a more valid poll if 82% were against Sheen?

I agree with others when they say... that for whatever reason... we are not being told the whole truth....

K

 

[dreamer]

http://www.sundayherald.com/37707

that was an interesting article and it was very careful to present both sides to the story

My question would be why would the Israelis use spys who were illegally in the US and could be found out by a simple traffic stop or accident (remember they worked for a moving company) when they have many "spies" legally in the country. Seems kinda sloppy for an organization that has the reputation they do.

 

[dreamer]

I agree with others when they say... that for whatever reason... we are not being told the whole truth....

now this I agree with, but I happen to think the coverup and lies have more to do with covering up errors made

 

[assoholic]

..this will not go away, I think the number who are starting to believe this is growing. Those who believe are convinced and nothing short of a real commission/investigation will change our minds.

 

[rogerstaubach]

At the risk of sounding strange... grins... would it have been a more valid poll if 82% were against Sheen?


K

The poll as is this whole thread, is invalid regardless of outcome because both rely upon unvalidated data.

 

[dreamer]

let's not waste time in questioning the proven facts , it will take us nowhere

that article was carefully worded, so I do not think you can state that there are proven facts

if you read the article it does not conclude anything except that Israel spies on the US

you could look at all of the facts and conclude that the five in question found out about the attack on the news and wanted to document it, you could could even conclude that some of them were specifically in the US to gather information, but you cannot conclude based on that incident that Israel knew beforehand that 9/11 was going to happen because if they did you would think they would document it better than those five did, and for all we know they did somewhere else

 

[Mcluhan]

that was an interesting article and it was very careful to present both sides to the story

My question would be why would the Israelis use spys who were illegally in the US and could be found out by a simple traffic stop or accident (remember they worked for a moving company) when they have many "spies" legally in the country. Seems kinda sloppy for an organization that has the reputation they do.

It occurs to me there isn't much you know about the israeli intellegence apparatus and how it operates. As one who does know some things from very close up personal experience, albeit at a very low level, I can assure u this is entirely plausable. It has roughly about 4 million members. That should be clue enough....obligations and rights come with the citizenship, and I think more than you care to know about, judging from the slightly cozy perspective you live with...or suffer...depending on the point of view..