Could Scarborough be a 3rd World Country?
- Thread starter Will E. Wanker
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Hey Wanker... Did you become the 'former' Heayweight Champ after getting punched out by a Scarboro immigrant who read this post? Oh, wait, most Scarboro immigrants probably dont have the means or intellect to even access a computer right? Perhaps they should spend less time smelling up the mall keeping out of your view right? As for being politically correct - you're reaching, and by know you probably know it. Why dont you just apologize for your insensitive and inflammatory remarks and find something better to do rather than continuosly trying to save face?Will E. Wanker said:
Read some history books my friend. If you're schedule is too busy and/or you preview different media than a book, watch Disney's Pocahontas. The Native Americans/Canadians were here first... every one else here is an immigrant.
As for your complaint about people crying racism, dont insult our intelligence. Apologize for your remarks and stop trying to save face. Unless you are Native (which I highly doubt), tell me this, have you taken the time to consider how your ancestors smelled after spending weeks sailing over here on the Mayflower? Oh wait, they only smelled because their clothes somehow absorbed the odors from the stench coming from the other 'passengers down below'...
Forget about Pochahontas... watch Amistad instead. Better yet, watch both... if your conscience will allow.
As for your last comment FC... Not only do I smell what you're cooking but I will now tell Mr Wanker to:
Know His Role And Shut His Mouth....
The People's Champ has spoken.
SK you raise a good point,
And this is what a lot of people fail to do is admit when they are wrong. Even in this thread I made a mistake about real estate and admitted it by saying that "I stand corrected."
WW uses the basic reversals by trying to say things like....
1) I'm not racist
2) we're being too PC/bleeding hearted
WW, why don't you admit that you made an incorrect generalization that painted an unfair representation of a larger population and that what you're really upset with is a small subset of a larger population.
Even your comments about BO, spitting and littering is offbase because you try and make it sound like all immigrants are like that when in reality there are SOME people in general who show these three traits.
And this is what a lot of people fail to do is admit when they are wrong. Even in this thread I made a mistake about real estate and admitted it by saying that "I stand corrected."
WW uses the basic reversals by trying to say things like....
1) I'm not racist
2) we're being too PC/bleeding hearted
WW, why don't you admit that you made an incorrect generalization that painted an unfair representation of a larger population and that what you're really upset with is a small subset of a larger population.
Even your comments about BO, spitting and littering is offbase because you try and make it sound like all immigrants are like that when in reality there are SOME people in general who show these three traits.
Some where down the road, the cultural relativism and that multi-culti argument is going to come up ...
Some things are universal, like self respect and hygiene - and they go hand in hand. Even animals, like house pets groom themselves, shit and pee in the right place and make themselves presentable and cultured. When people can not even abid by such basic societal requirements, or, do what a civilized human is suppose to do, they are to be condemned.
Some things are universal, like self respect and hygiene - and they go hand in hand. Even animals, like house pets groom themselves, shit and pee in the right place and make themselves presentable and cultured. When people can not even abid by such basic societal requirements, or, do what a civilized human is suppose to do, they are to be condemned.
You're missing the point
However, I think the point of all this is that the original post (and subsequent posts) singled out immigrants. The comments were inflammatory and insensitive. Are we ready to accept this and move on?
If you're referring to people in general, than what you're saying is fine - with the exception of condemning anyone. Are you suggesting that someone who does not demonstrate self respect and hygiene should be condemned? Maybe some life coaching is order, condemnation seems a bit harsh.DateMasamune said:
However, I think the point of all this is that the original post (and subsequent posts) singled out immigrants. The comments were inflammatory and insensitive. Are we ready to accept this and move on?
Holy cow! I just opened this post and can't believe the blatant hatred in it. I have never been so ashamed to be a member of a board until I discovered that a discussion like this could prosper and fester so badly. There is a time and place for some discussions. The time for this one is 1957. The place is the deep south under a white sheet.
I don't think DM knows much about dogs. Also, don't forget animals don't do anything to mask their BO.
As for humans well, what is acceptable is dependent on culture and even location (e.g. what we get away with when camping or playing hockey is much different then in the boardroom). But as I've pointed out before can you fault someone for not knowing the cultural norms? Also, have you ever politely mentioned to someone about their BO problem. Most of us avoid the topic, I know I have. It's tough to say it in a nice way and so I usually just avoid the topic. So not only do the people with BO problems not know but its compounded by the fact that most people don't say a thing to them.
As for humans well, what is acceptable is dependent on culture and even location (e.g. what we get away with when camping or playing hockey is much different then in the boardroom). But as I've pointed out before can you fault someone for not knowing the cultural norms? Also, have you ever politely mentioned to someone about their BO problem. Most of us avoid the topic, I know I have. It's tough to say it in a nice way and so I usually just avoid the topic. So not only do the people with BO problems not know but its compounded by the fact that most people don't say a thing to them.
Sorry to nitpick here but even "Native" Americans were immigrants at one point. It is widely accepted that early humanoids crossed the Bering Strait from what is now Siberia to Alaska long ago and thus did the Americas get populated.frankcastle said:
Dont be ashamed my friend. It's probably a good thing that all this discussion is taking place. Education (including learning from/enlightening others in this post) is the ONLY thing that will change these attitudes. If this was 1957 than you might wake up in the middle of the nite to find a cross burning in your front yard for speaking out against racism.WhaWhaWha said:
As far as being south, this post proves what I've said for years about race relations in North America... as long as you're south of the Arctic, you're South.
Yeah I was aware of that Don, but thanks. I mean that sincerely, no sarcasm intended. Honestly.
I guess to be correct I should have also mentioned the inuit.
Anyways, my point was that the aboriginal people of north america were here before the europeans came. So my point was that they were first and everyone after them are immigrants relative to them. Just like the new people are immigrants relative to us citizens of Canada.
I guess to be correct I should have also mentioned the inuit.
Anyways, my point was that the aboriginal people of north america were here before the europeans came. So my point was that they were first and everyone after them are immigrants relative to them. Just like the new people are immigrants relative to us citizens of Canada.
If it looks like a duck...
Hey FC... very dignified response. Looks like 'the members' are coming out of hiding! Harder to pick out nowadays... without the head coverings they're not as easily identifible as, say, 'immigrants' living in Scarborough?Don said:
I must partly agree with you there. The problem with Canada is that they don't accept people educated under the British or American standards...I speak only when concerned with Medicine here. I know a couple of smart people that just decided to work in the states than re-write the medical exam which covers EVERYTHING rather than their specialty.Will E. Wanker said:
I think you will have general agreement if thats what you meant when you first started this thread. Etiquette and hygiene is very important, and it must be maintained. BUT, if you look at the start of the thread, you directly linked BO to immigrants. Maybe think before you type might be a prudent step to take.Will E. Wanker said:
They key word in your response is societal. What you say is true, as long as the society you are in accepts these ideals and standards. A society could be a street block, a suburb, a city, a country, or the world. It all depends on the perspective you look at it from.DateMasamune said:
SK,
I don't think Don meant anything negative with what he said which is that everyone in N. America is an immigrant even the aboriginal people. Which really strengthens the idea that we should be more accepting (not tolerant) of immigrants because we were all immigrants at one point or another.
I don't think Don meant anything negative with what he said which is that everyone in N. America is an immigrant even the aboriginal people. Which really strengthens the idea that we should be more accepting (not tolerant) of immigrants because we were all immigrants at one point or another.
Yes, you are totally correct in saying that. And being a visible minority myself, my parents were immigrants. Nonetheless, you come to be Canadian so leave whatever undesirable practices at home. Yeah, people call Canadian social fabric a mosaic, but I don't buy that shit. You come here to be Canadian and to be Canadian means to be North American and to be North American means to adapt and integrate with Anglo political/economical/cultural/societal norms - mesh in with the majority.GIMME said:
At the end of the day, Canada is still a child if the British - look at our coins, our Govenor General, Constitutional Monarchy, etc. etc.
Although times have changed, and so has Canadian society (the make up, or peoples) somethings stay and the British and French have definitely left their mark. For better or worse, you come to be Canadian so live with it. As far as I
know, no decent Gentlemen would spit where ever he goes, walk around with his pants down to his waist holding their crotch and smell like shit and drive like shit ...
Like I said before, hygiene reflect self respect. So if anyone wants respect, they got to take care of themselves and act in a civilized manner ...
DM,
Just going to play devil's advocate here. But okay if we're going to talk about what one can expect from North American society is freedom. The rights we are offered here provide you with a reasonable amount of freedom to do what you want so long as you aren't hurting people. This being the case a person has the right to dress and carry themselves the way that want at least according to our laws. This person has done nothing illegal.
I guess I haven't spent enough time in Scarborough but I don't think I'm met someone like that before. Well maybe at 2 am at a keg party.
Just going to play devil's advocate here. But okay if we're going to talk about what one can expect from North American society is freedom. The rights we are offered here provide you with a reasonable amount of freedom to do what you want so long as you aren't hurting people. This being the case a person has the right to dress and carry themselves the way that want at least according to our laws. This person has done nothing illegal.
I guess I haven't spent enough time in Scarborough but I don't think I'm met someone like that before. Well maybe at 2 am at a keg party.
