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I am not saying men and women are not different.
I am saying that just because a female cop got beaten up on the job does not mean we shouldn't have female cops.
That is a ridiculous proposition especially when the video shows you it was a female cop that subdued the thug.
What's ridiculous is your bias in what you see and don't see in the video.

The male cop got pummelled from behind because of the failure of two female cops unable to restrain one man.

Three male cops and you have a whole different dynamic. Three female cops and the thugs have escaped leaving the cops battered or dead.

Women serve many great roles in law enforcement but just like in the military, they don't belong on the front line.

In contact sports, we delineate competition along biological sex to make things fair.

We cannot do that in the real world. In the real world, most crazed thugs are male, so putting women in situations where they have to deal with such men is unethical. It gives thugs an advantage and puts officers and the public at risk.
 
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It was there in the clip.
Watch till the end or you may have to google for the full clip.
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Lol..The perp decks her and then turns his attention to the male cop.

Then she tases him...If he doesn't turn away from her she's toast.

She's in the wrong job....I see social work in her near future.

There's only so many police jobs...You can't have someone filling one that can't control a situation like that. Plain and simple.
 
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The suspect literally fought the male cop and beat him up and the one who tased and subdued him eventually was one of the female cops.
Man are you dishonest...Male cop was threatening his brother with a taser when your guy attacks him from behind because the female cops were on the ground.

If the female cops could do thier job they would have been able to control your guy.
 

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Seems a lot of cops are getting assaulted in Manchester every day according to the chief constable of the Manchester police...Hmmm now I wonder why that is? Could it be because of a certain demographic change?
Feminists: "Men are bad. Every woman I know has been assaulted by one. We don't need them. Get rid of them all! We prefer the bear!"

Also Feminists: "Open the border to millions of young Third World men from patriarchal societies where grape isn't even prosecuted, you xenophobic bastards! The more of those men, the better!"
 
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You guys should lighten up.

The woman cop in question may not be a femaie George Foreman, but she didn't run away either. It's not easy being a cop, male or female and not every cop needs to be an MMA prize fighter. I'm sure that this young woman has plenty of other attributes which make her a good cop. And for what it's worth, sometimes all it takes is 1 punch that connects and you (and I mean all of you who are mocking her) can be severely injured. What you see in the movies isn't reality. One punch that connects can kill you. You fall and hit your head and and it very well could be the end of you. The best course of action is to avoid a fight. She didn't have that choice.
 

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You guys should lighten up.

The woman cop in question may not be a femaie George Foreman, but she didn't run away either. It's not easy being a cop, male or female and not every cop needs to be an MMA prize fighter. I'm sure that this young woman has plenty of other attributes which make her a good cop. And for what it's worth, sometimes all it takes is 1 punch that connects and you (and I mean all of you who are mocking her) can be severely injured. What you see in the movies isn't reality. One punch that connects can kill you. You fall and hit your head and and it very well could be the end of you. The best course of action is to avoid a fight. She didn't have that choice.
Smooth it over any way you'd like. Truth is, she was absolutely useless. Honesty is the best policy here.

The male cop wasn't an MMA fighter nor Foreman either, and nobody is asking cops to be that (although that would be amazing).
 
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Feminists: "Men are bad. Every woman I know has been assaulted by one. We don't need them. Get rid of them all! We prefer the bear!"

Also Feminists: "Open the borders to millions of young Third World men from patriarchal societies where grape isn't even prosecuted, you xenophobic bastards! The more of those men, the better!"
Nailed it.
 
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Ah, so instead of discussing what happened, you are fabricating hypotheticals.
The male cop is lucky he didn't get knocked out when getting hit repeatedly in the back of the head, after the (obviously weak) thug effortlessly rag dolled both female cops.

He could have been killed.

The apologist tour is unacceptable.

Event: Cop completely fails at being a cop.

Simp Conclusion: Well, uh, she's probably a really good cop though, you know, other than dealing with bad guys, which is the job of a cop. She'll be back in full swing just like the boys in no time.

You're a man. Use your logic. Stop being a weasel and stop subscribing to OF pages.
 
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The male cop is lucky he didn't get knocked out when getting hit repeatedly in the back of the head, after the (obviously weak) thug effortlessly rag dolled both female cops.

He could have been killed.

The apologist tour is unacceptable.

Event: Cop completely fails at being a cop.

Simp Conclusion: Well, uh, she's probably a really good cop though, you know, in other ways. She'll be back in full swing just like the boys in no time.

You're a man. Use your logic. And stop subscribing to OF pages.
I suppose you'd apply the same standards that "cops always have to win a fight" and say the same thing about every male cop who were beat up on the job.
 

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I suppose you'd apply the same standards that "cops always have to win a fight" and say the same thing about every male cop who were beat up on the job.
What a ridiculous proposition.

Do you understand that the average man is stronger than 97.5% of women?

How do you think those odds translate in physical confrontations between physically aggressive male thugs and female cops?

The US army conducted a study of all-female, mixed-gender, and all-male platoons. Guess which one fared worst and which one fared best?

The same will hold true for policing on the street. The reasons should be obvious by now, but again, I'm debating someone that thought men can become women by identifying as such.

I understand that you think a compromised (lower standard) police force is an acceptable trade-off for the greater good of society's concept of 'equality'. That's your argument and it's okay, but just say that.
 
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Do you understand that the average man is stronger than 97.5% of women?
How do you think those odds translate in physical confrontations between physically aggressive male thugs and female cops?
Doesn't matter if they are getting beat up in a fight.
The odds in a fight between LE and thugs are not straightforward.
In the US a female cop may just shoot the guy whereas in the UK they don't even carry a gun.
Here is a female cop in Australia who confronted a mass murderer and killed him.
Plus you realize that policing is teamwork anyway.
Bottomline: You cannot make sweeping statements based on gender like that. Its stupid.
 

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Plus you realize that policing is teamwork anyway.
Bottomline: You cannot make sweeping statements based on gender like that. Its stupid.
Yes you can. The military study demonstrated this. The fact that professional [team] sports are separated by sex demonstrates this. The fact that 14 year old boys soccer teams easily defeat professional women's soccer teams demonstrate this. I suppose the entire world order is just stupid in your opinion.

I can give you many examples of women taking down perps with a gun. That's one reason to be pro-gun... being pro-gun is being pro-woman. It's their best defense against men that want to do harm to them.

I understand that it may take 30 more pages of back and forth before you come to your senses on this topic. It took as much for your to admit that you won't fuck a trans woman but you will fuck a woman, because the former is not actually a woman. What is understood naturally within seconds for 99% of humans is up for grand debates with you. You have a mental block that's very rigid and exhausting.
 
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Yes you can. The military study demonstrated this. The fact that professional [team] sports are separated by sex demonstrates this. The fact that 14 year old boys soccer teams easily defeat professional women's soccer teams demonstrate this. I suppose the entire world order is just stupid in your opinion.

I can give you many examples of women taking down perps with a gun. That's one reason to be pro-gun... being pro-gun is being pro-woman. It's their best defense against men that want to do harm to them.

I understand that it may take 30 more pages of back and forth before you come to your senses on this topic. It took as much for your to admit that you won't fuck a trans woman but you will fuck a woman, because the former is not actually a woman. What is understood naturally within seconds for 99% of humans is up for grand debates with you. You have a mental block that's very rigid and exhausting.
No you cannot.
I just provided an example that shows you an instance where a female cop didn't lose a fight.
The majority of police work isn't physical altercation anyway and most importantly it is TEAMWORK. It isn't a prize fight.
So such studies are useless in making sweeping determinations on whether women should serve at all.
You use these threads to grind your teeth to exhaustion, about women and trans women but it isn't going to change the fact that women can, have and will continue to serve in both the armed forces and the police.
It also doesn't change the fact that gender identity and sex are not the same things and that my refusal to sleep with someone I am not attracted to, doesn't take away from that fact.
Unless you have something new to say, I suggest you just move on and may be try to come to terms with reality.
Oh and don't mess with female cops tomorrow thinking you are a man and you are stronger. You may get hurt in the process.
 
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Felt bad for that cop. A system that put her face to face with an angry thug is a system that needs to be "tweaked" a little.

Agree with @Shaquille Oatmeal that policing is team work but there's a reason men don't compete with women in all kinds of competitions.
I'm all for women doing police work and handling guns and chasing criminals etc. but when it comes to wrestling with
and arresting them it's a different ball game altogether. I sparred in my youth and even a 1-2kg difference felt like you're up against a heavy weight.

Here's a case in point, shouldn't really shock anyone who's ever played football (aka soccer) with girls,
Luzern (U15 boys team) dominated and crushed the Swiss women's national soccer team.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/1lltcpz
 
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Agree with @Shaquille Oatmeal that policing is team work
Yeah, nobody is saying men aren't stronger than women.
Bucktee seems to be arguing that because men are stronger than women, we shouldn't have female cops at all.
Teamwork and the number of policing interactions resulting in physical altercations are far less than ones that don't.
For example, you don't need a strong male cop to do a routine traffic stop or some other.
 
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Yeah, nobody is saying men aren't stronger than women.
Bucktee seems to be arguing that because men are stronger than women, we shouldn't have female cops at all.
Teamwork and the number of policing interactions resulting in physical altercations are far less than ones that don't.
For example, you don't need a strong male cop to do a routine traffic stop or some other.
I like this video from the animal kingdom. Police squads are not a wolf pack but they can learn a lot from wolf pack formations.
The most experienced and the elite are in the front.

 
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It could be the shock that got her because she got hit, when she wasn't expecting, since she is an officer. As for the throw of the punch maybe it got her in a weak spot of the face. IF you never boxed before and get punched it really hurts or could get killed.

Maybe never seen blood before.
I watched the whole video on YouTube.
She walked into the situation like she was tough but they (cops) lost control really fast.

I'd say lack of training or incompetence with all the cops involved is what caused this situation.
 
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