Cuba may fall

[princekwekua]

Dude. They are fully blockading now.

In Cuba, people go without foo...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/cuba-fuel-crisis-9.7083047

So who isn't comprehending now? They have shut down all oil tankers. Which again means no fuel. No power. No clean water, no food coming in.

Care to re assess your opinion. Feel free to look up the latest news first.

Cuba was receiving oil free of charge from Venezuela. That has been terminated.
If they had money, they could purchase oil from the black market very easily. They dont have money.
Iran and Russia are supposed to be under sanctions by US and other countries.
Trump threatened sanctions against countries buying oil from those countries.
They are still doing brisk business internationally

 

[Butler1000]

Cuba was receiving oil free of charge from Venezuela. That has been terminated.
If they had money, they could purchase oil from the black market very easily. They dont have money.
Iran and Russia are supposed to be under sanctions by US and other countries.
Trump threatened sanctions against countries buying oil from those countries.
They are still doing brisk business internationally

Dude. They US navy already turned back a black market Russian oil tanker. It's a BLOCKADE. Not sanctions or just an embargo.

It's why they ran out of fuel

 

[Frankfooter]

Cuba was receiving oil free of charge from Venezuela. That has been terminated.
If they had money, they could purchase oil from the black market very easily. They dont have money.
Iran and Russia are supposed to be under sanctions by US and other countries.
Trump threatened sanctions against countries buying oil from those countries.
They are still doing brisk business internationally

Cuba's biggest problem is american sanctions.
Now their biggest problem is still american sanctions.

america is the problem, not Cuba.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2023586107909189930

 

[whyagain]

Actually, yes. Or do you prefer airstrikes or boots on the ground? Any alternative way to take down the Cuban government?

Amen to that! Keep on preaching to the youth on this forum. Man out here speaking volume. If you ain't reading then you not knowing how a forum works.

Cuba should have accepted democracy decades ago. Their government was heavily already screwing their citizens over. They all come Canada and bash their own country.

 

[whyagain]

most of the country is out of electricty for the past 6 months diabetics have no fridges for insulin people are dying there left right and centre because of trump.

And how many people already died in the past due to their own government in Cuba? These people have like 5 items only in their fridge for a week and hospitals with dirty bacteria filled equipment.

They need change and help. Trump out here doing the Lords work.

 

[Frankfooter]

Amen to that! Keep on preaching to the youth on this forum. Man out here speaking volume. If you ain't reading then you not knowing how a forum works.

Cuba should have accepted democracy decades ago. Their government was heavily already screwing their citizens over. They all come Canada and bash their own country.

Why did they have to 'accept democracy'?
Don't they get to choose how to live their own lives?

 

[whyagain]

Have you not seen what their life is like with their current government and with Castro? Watch any YT docu on Cuban people and talk to a few who are working here in Canada and you'll be glad Trump is going to make Cuba better. Will they still have issues similar to Canada and USA? Sure. But democracy and capitalism will def help a lot of Cubans. These people buy like a milk carton and try to make it last a week or two. I wouldn't want to end up in their dirty hospitals if I was vacationing in Cuba.

 

[Frankfooter]

Have you not seen what their life is like with their current government and with Castro? Watch any YT docu on Cuban people and talk to a few who are working here in Canada and you'll be glad Trump is going to make Cuba better. Will they still have issues similar to Canada and USA? Sure. But democracy and capitalism will def help a lot of Cubans. These people buy like a milk carton and try to make it last a week or two. I wouldn't want to end up in their dirty hospitals if I was vacationing in Cuba.

But its the sanctions that have kept Cuba poor.

 

[whyagain]

Do you even talk with Cubans? I've vacationed twice in Cuba prior to 2020 and have 2 people from down there on my social and 1 person I hangout with in person at times. Their government lives like kings while the rest of the country suffers. She said when she came to Canada she kissed the ground literally. She's told me here you work hard too but she has plenty of food in the fridge and owns a townhouse now. In Cuba she said you work hard then watch the government dine like royalty on their dime. How very sad. These people will let you know straight up it's not just sanctions.

 

[squeezer]

I would love to know what the Cuban locals currently living in Cuba think of Trump, Rubio and Americans in general right now. Do they seem them as saviors or possible invaders?

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

No real reporting on MSM. But 15 days in out of fuel. Which means no electricity, no clean water, no sewage control. No cooking no means to store food. Blockage so limited food.

This could get ugly. End up as Gaza 2.0.

And all this because Cuba successfully stood up for itself against the Americunts 65 years ago. The blockade is about the Americunts being butt-hurt, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[whyagain]

 

[Daniel74747474]

Have you not seen what their life is like with their current government and with Castro? Watch any YT docu on Cuban people and talk to a few who are working here in Canada and you'll be glad Trump is going to make Cuba better. Will they still have issues similar to Canada and USA? Sure. But democracy and capitalism will def help a lot of Cubans. These people buy like a milk carton and try to make it last a week or two. I wouldn't want to end up in their dirty hospitals if I was vacationing in Cuba.

The Trump administration, nor any version of the US government for that matter, can't do anything more for Cuba than they have been doing for people living in poverty in the various states of the US or in Puerto Rico.

 

[Daniel74747474]

Amen to that! Keep on preaching to the youth on this forum. Man out here speaking volume. If you ain't reading then you not knowing how a forum works.

Cuba should have accepted democracy decades ago. Their government was heavily already screwing their citizens over. They all come Canada and bash their own country.

You could make this argument for any number of nations, including China.

 

[whyagain]

There's no perfect system, but it's a lot better than what Cubans have been dealing with for decades. I may facetime one of the guys on my socials tonight and ask questions. They won't openly say things on YT vids in fear of their government's backlash.

 

[Daniel74747474]

Nah... This is just a bully play. He doesn't like that this third world country is getting free oil, so he makes up security arguments to take an action against them. Nothing they have been doing has had any material effect on the US.

 

[whyagain]

You're more than welcome to look how Cubans feel reading on Reddit or something. Or try knowing a few Cubans like me. That entire country needs a big change.

Someone on Reddit mentioned in a topic that China/Vietnam even though Communist has roughly over 95% private businesses compared to Cuba at like 23% or so. Cuban government is so corrupt they won't allow more folks within their country to have a private business that's why so many youth who get free education down there want to leave that country. You ask 20 Cubans about their government and you'll get diff answers of course no different than asking Canadians or Americans what they think of their government. I'm sure ones who own a business that's doing well won't complain much. Most enjoyed Fidel, but many dislike their current government.

If Trump's change brings in a better government and allows for more private businesses and growth that's a positive in my books.

 

[Frankfooter]

You ask 20 Cubans about their government and you'll get diff answers of course no different than asking Canadians or Americans what they think of their government.

Ok, I'll take that into consideration listening to your posts.

 

[whyagain]

I barely have much issues with the Canadian government. My only real issue generally is lack of punishments for criminals and gun laws to defend ourselves generally. Do I vent like others when our government sends millions to Ukraine or other nations in need compared to others who say what about Canadians? No. I've succeeded in this country and applaud the health care system too. And I've worked amongst many other Canadian who bash the government here. If I was from a third world nation I'd be kissing the Canadian soil too. I don't waste much time arguing with fellow Canadians who just don't get it...

 

[Daniel74747474]

You're more than welcome to look how Cubans feel reading on Reddit or something. Or try knowing a few Cubans like me. That entire country needs a big change.

Someone on Reddit mentioned in a topic that China/Vietnam even though Communist has roughly over 95% private businesses compared to Cuba at like 23% or so. Cuban government is so corrupt they won't allow more folks within their country to have a private business that's why so many youth who get free education down there want to leave that country. You ask 20 Cubans about their government and you'll get diff answers of course no different than asking Canadians or Americans what they think of their government. I'm sure ones who own a business that's doing well won't complain much. Most enjoyed Fidel, but many dislike their current government.

If Trump's change brings in a better government and allows for more private businesses and growth that's a positive in my books.

I don't doubt there are people that are suffering. I just don't believe that there is anything that the trump administration or any administration can do to relieve it. Even a government change won't drastically change the economics of the island.