Frustrated Liberals say Pierre Poilievre is crushing them — and some of them are blaming Justin Trudeau

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They dislike Mr. Trudeau vehemently in India,lol.......
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This must be the Fox News affiliate in India. Quebec could probably separate if they were underwritten by India. Quebec is unhappy about the recent influx of Indians to English Canada because as Quebec’s “pure laine” population shrinks through negative birth rates and attrition so does their political lobbying influx in Ottawa as the Indian Canadian population’s political lobby rises.
It is not a question of if Canada will one day have a PM of Indian descent but when.
The caste problems and religious strife endemic in India are visiting Canada now, an unintended consequences of the mass migration..
Poilievre wisely remains silent as Trudeau gets pummelled but his time will come.
 
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This must be the Fox News affiliate in India. Quebec could probably separate if they were underwritten by India. Quebec is unhappy about the recent influx of Indians to English Canada because as Quebec’s “pure laine” population shrinks through negative birth rates and attrition so does their political lobbying influx in Ottawa as the Indian Canadian population’s political lobby rises.
It is not a question of if Canada will one day have a PM of Indian descent but when.
The caste problems and religious strife endemic in India are visiting Canada now, an unintended consequences of the mass migration..
Poilievre wisely remains silent as Trudeau gets pummelled but his time will come.
Here as well, India is now putting more money into Ontario universities and colleges than the provincial government.

 

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Pierre only knows how to complain and speak in 30,000ft strategic terms. To this day, I haven't heard the brasstacks or actual actionable solutions. Just rhetoric and bullshit.

If he gets to power, hope he can perform as well as he could talk.
I'll take the 30,000ft strategy over the 1,000,000ft "and the budget will balance itself" strategy any day! Lol!!
 

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Here as well, India is now putting more money into Ontario universities and colleges than the provincial government.

India is not putting money into Ontario universities. That's a misleading statement.
Ultimately, the federal government (ie the Liberals) are responsible for immigration not provincial. So if there is an allegation that promises of citizenship are being made, then this is a federal issue as they would be the ones to fulfill that promise right?
 

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The Latest Polls has The Approval rating for both Trudeau and Pee Pee at 41%.
That's funny. I was just about to respond to the OP and say "yeah, but the collegiate and post-collegiate crowd here will continue calling him Pee Pee".
 

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Pierre only knows how to complain and speak in 30,000ft strategic terms. To this day, I haven't heard the brasstacks or actual actionable solutions. Just rhetoric and bullshit.

If he gets to power, hope he can perform as well as he could talk.
Interestingly, they said that about Trump when he was running.
Then they bemoaned his policies initiatives and legislation.
Then they dogged him with investigations.
Then they said he didn't do anything in office.

I'm not sure how the media conveys messages, but if you are truly interested in policy you might want to read some media sources that are more reasonable to Conservatives.
 

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Trump did nothing, which is fact.

Here is a list - https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/tracking-trumps-promises/index.html

Pierre so far hasn't proposed any solutions and I say this by listening to him, not reading biased media sources.
First, I didn't post to defend or advocate Trump's record. If look at this CNN graphic, it's somewhat fair. However, it looks like a lot was done given U.S. Presidents don't have a lot of power over the legislature.

You could add Trump reduced Federal agency regulatory intervention and better relations with the Saudis and other Mideast countries. Most liberal media outlets don't spend a lot of time covering federal agency regulation. This is where a lot of Federal power lies. I suspect this is true for Canada. The Biden Administration has brought in more activist agency heads. Some of his appointments have been controversial and have trouble getting through the Democrat-controlled Senate. A lot of the Biden Administration's regulatory actions are running into Court headwinds.

As far as Trump's "bring back torture", even I object to progressives being tortured. ;)
 

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Fuck them both, well all 3 of them singh singh as well...

It is heartbreaking seeing the lack of leqderahip we have in this country, and how all parties are jjst looking how to line their pockets at the tax payers expense.
 
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India will get a return on their investments in Canada.
Already the new Indian worker and student labour are beginning to backstop and support some segments of the Canadian workforce in every province except Quebec.
Do you mean "indian worker" as in new immigrant that is now a citizen? Or someone who is not a citizen?

It's an important distinction because non-citizen workers would be a federal issue not a provincial one.
 

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India is not putting money into Ontario universities. That's a misleading statement.
Ultimately, the federal government (ie the Liberals) are responsible for immigration not provincial. So if there is an allegation that promises of citizenship are being made, then this is a federal issue as they would be the ones to fulfill that promise right?
Indian students give Ontario universities more money than the DoFo government.
That is accurate.

Ultimately Ontario universities are stuck filling enrolment with foreign students to make up for the enforced 20% cut to tuition fees that DoFo mandated.
Same way cities are raising taxes to pay for the break in development fees, with Markham saying they will raise taxes by 93% over the next couple of years.
 

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Indian students give Ontario universities more money than the DoFo government.
That is accurate.

Ultimately Ontario universities are stuck filling enrolment with foreign students to make up for the enforced 20% cut to tuition fees that DoFo mandated.
Same way cities are raising taxes to pay for the break in development fees, with Markham saying they will raise taxes by 93% over the next couple of years.
If tuition costs are lowered then it will help local students afford to go to school. If the university wants to make higher profits off the backs of foreign students then let them.
I'm always skeptical when an organization cries poor and people rushing to their defence without a clear and detailed report of where their existing money is being spent.
 

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If tuition costs are lowered then it will help local students afford to go to school. If the university wants to make higher profits off the backs of foreign students then let them.
I'm always skeptical when an organization cries poor and people rushing to their defence without a clear and detailed report of where their existing money is being spent.
But those same universities will have 20% less cash from tuition with which to hold those classes.
They have to make up that money somehow or cut back massively.

And when they add so many more foreign students that are paying more, that's less room in classes for Ontario kids.

You think that's good?
 

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Domestic enrollments have been declining. Foreign enrollments have been increasing for a variety of reasons. The higher tuition costs for foreign students more than make up the decrease in domestic tuition costs.
The problem of class sizes you mentioned does not exist and is speculative. You are assuming that preferential treatment will be given to foreign students.
 

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Domestic enrollments have been declining. Foreign enrollments have been increasing for a variety of reasons. The higher tuition costs for foreign students more than make up the decrease in domestic tuition costs.
The problem of class sizes you mentioned does not exist and is speculative. You are assuming that preferential treatment will be given to foreign students.
Boob, you just repeated what I said.
Universities have to take fewer domestic students so they can take more foreign students to pay the bills.
 

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No
Boob, you just repeated what I said.
Universities have to take fewer domestic students so they can take more foreign students to pay the bills.
Not true. You're implying that universities are favouring foreign students over domestic ones. Zero proof of that and total conjecture.
There are fewer domestic enrollments despite an increase in foreign enrollments. One does not have to do with the other. It is what it is.
 
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No

Not true. You're implying that universities are favouring foreign students over domestic ones. Zero proof of that and total conjecture.
There are fewer domestic enrollments despite an increase in foreign enrollments. One does not have to do with the other. It is what it is.
Your opinion is ill informed and ignorant.
Its not worth replying to your posts.
 

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