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persis

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zaig said:
Persis,

I have 5 comments.

1. What does this beautiful woman have to do with Gaza?

2. For a self professed educated fellow, is it that you can't type, or you can't spell. If I am not mistaken Dallas is spelled like this, not Dollas.

3. How else would you expect people to react to her pics. This is an Escort Review Board. These guys are horny, and any woman's pic on this site is fair game, or is it only fair game to pick on Israel and Jews.

4. Where on the map is Persia? I couldn't find it.

5. Do you know Cinelli, Cyrus, Scouser1, and Woodpecker. I think you guys should open a charter branch of the KKK, or maybe a new Neo-Nazi organization. Something like, People who hate because their lives are so void of anything worthwhile, and they have no one to blame it on, so they find the historical scapegoat, the Jews. Except this time around we are not so willing to be caged, tattooed with a serial number, and made into slave labour, then gassed and burnt. This time around the world is shocked that Jews will actually stand up and fight for their freedom.
I don't think I will respond to any of your outright anti-semitic rants, but I do wish we could meet. I really would like to see what hatred looks like. I actually in a small way feel sorry for you and the others mentioned. Something somewhere in your life must have caused this outlook. Maybe we would all be more understanding of your position if we knew the facts.
O, I just realized. I DON'T CARE.

shalom
What are you moaning and ranting about..?
What anti-Semitic rants have been said in this whole threat? Name, number, be specific…man!

As for your recent quote “the Jews. Except this time around we are not so willing to be caged, tattooed with a serial number, and made into slave labor, then gassed and burnt”
Un-quote
Man.. you got problem with Neo-Nazi organizations/ KKK/Germans people / Europeans Anti-Semitism
or better yet I should say "anti-Khazar" … then ship your non-Semitic Ass "Non-descendants of the Old Testament Jews of ancient Judas " back to Europe and deal with it… you can't fool me, I know you ..wink..wink ;)
none of these phenomena were ever instigated in the Middle-East ... Palestinians or Iranians have done no such thing to you ever...
Finally, your constant rant about this is truly disgusting.
 

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ah the classic "anyone who opposes the foreign policies of Israel is obviously an anti-Semite" argument is finally dragged out, seems like the rah rah Israel crowd when exhausted of defending their beloved state with the book of magical stories of virgins giving birth and drops of oil lasting 8 days, along with trying to convince the world that people of different nationalities who just happen to be of the Jewish faith should all live in Haifa, Abu Dis and Deir Yassin completely ignoring the population that was already their for centuries use this up.

The whole argument doesnt matter anyway, Israel can sing and dance about how its security is tied into what happened at Auschwitz and Treblinka all it wants, because in about 100 years, current day Israel like apartheid South Africa will face some stark choices.
 

persis

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papasmerf said:
Zaig

I think you will find most Christians will stand beside you in this fight. We will do so proudly and without reservation.
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These people are taking good Christians as fools... many of these so-called Jews do not even believe in Yahweh...
They have adopted Judaism by conversion in large masses for political reasons … fraud as far as Sephardi Jews are concerned... They certainly have no lineal connexion with the Biblical Hebrews....
 

Aardvark154

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persis said:
Anti-Semitism or better yet I should say "anti-Khazar" … then ship your non-Semitic Ass "Non-descendants of the Old Testament Jews
Oh Persis, for someone who likes to discuss the history of Central Asia you certainly have been lead astray here.

Have you ever heard of DNA? What about the study by M.F. Hammer et al "Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes". In Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (May 9 2000). In which it was found that the Y chromosome of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. Or the Cohanim Aaronic "Cohen Modal Haplotype" that most Cohanim are the descendants of a single male ancestor. K. Skorecki et al , "Y chromosomes of Jewish priests". Nature 385: 32 and M.G. Thomas et al, "Origins of Old Testament priests". Nature 394: 138-40.

Come on stop pretending you’re stupid enough to believe this Khazar calumny.
 

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persis said:
They have adopted Judaism by conversion in large masses for political reasons … fraud as far as Sephardi Jews are concerned... They certainly have no lineal connexion with the Biblical Hebrews....
And to which Sephardic Jews to you refer? Those who came to New Amsterdam in 1654, or those forced to flee Middle Eastern Countries in the past two decades? Please see my above post on DNA.
 

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thanks for saving me some time on that one Aardvark, it keep getting brought up until one of us shows the facts.

The whole "modern Jews aren't related to the Jews exiled by the Romans in the year 70" is a necessary plank in the anti-Israel propaganda machine, since it is the only way to deny us the right to a state in historical Israel. Refugees? Yep, for 2000 years baby!

It's all so silly isn't it, to go on hating and promoting hate when most Israelis and Palestinians (I'm guessing as far as the Pals go) actually would prefer to live normal lives and not kill or hate.

scouser, I don't get you at all, you keep rehashing the same shit. NOBODY HERE OBJECTS TO ISRAELI POLICIES BEING CRITICIZED, but a number of the anti-Israel posters routinely go WAY beyond that into the "Jews control the world" territory, or modern Jews have no claim to a state because they aren't real. Can we not object to that?

Fuck why don't you jerks just leave it? Aren't there any issues in the world equally pressing?
 

Aardvark154

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DATYdude said:
NOBODY HERE OBJECTS TO ISRAELI POLICIES BEING CRITICIZED, but a number of the anti-Israel posters routinely go WAY beyond that into the "Jews control the world" territory, or modern Jews have no claim to a state because they aren't real. Can we not object to that?
Daty, much easier for them to keep up the Anti-Semitic baloney than to discuss real and hard issues like the huge decrease in the Christian population of the Holy Land and the influence that has had on the increasing Islamization of the Palestinian population.
 

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Aardvark154 said:
Oh Persis, for someone who likes to discuss the history of Central Asia you certainly have been lead astray here.

Have you ever heard of DNA? What about the study by M.F. Hammer et al "Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes". In Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (May 9 2000). In which it was found that the Y chromosome of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. Or the Cohanim Aaronic "Cohen Modal Haplotype" that most Cohanim are the descendants of a single male ancestor. K. Skorecki et al , "Y chromosomes of Jewish priests". Nature 385: 32 and M.G. Thomas et al, "Origins of Old Testament priests". Nature 394: 138-40.

Come on stop pretending you’re stupid enough to believe this Khazar calumny.
BS..
the DNA/BGA researchers have determined that European Jews are overwhelmingly of European stock / white races, Slavs(Indo-European mixing with Finno-Uralic), northwestern Europeans (Nordic) and Central Asian(Khazar) with the non-Israelite Y , Q and R1a1 ranging from 73.39% to 86.4% which is NOT related to Semitic Genetics, of Jewish communities of Palestinian & Syrians which share a genetic link, this is also true to lesser extend about the Sephardim of Europe i.e. Italian/Spanish Jews (from Mediterranean mixed with Middle-eastern) who have much higher Semitic Genetic counts
It is fraud for hired guns- publications & scientist (i.e, Dr. Schiffman, Judaic Studies at New York University) to misrepresent & refute these documented discoveries by over emphasizing there minor Italian/Spanish- Semitic Genetic of 13.6% -26% over there major Europeans DNA of 73.39%
You can have two genealogical DNA testing to determine your paternal ancestry...DNA-1 & DNA-2 [HVR1 and HVR2] which will reveal your most recent common ancestory by regions as %, it may cost you about $250 (try it)
What surprises me most ignorant people in the world want to be white... you people are the only ignorant people, I know of, who are actually white but prefer not to be...anyways, I have given you just a few references out of many to look up for yourself, for that you need to actually go to library instead of reading propaganda web sites.


--Wade, Nicholas (January 14 2006). "New Light on Origins of Ashkenazi in Europe"
--L'histoire retrouvée des Khazars" / the 2nd edition of The Jews of Khazaria (October 2006) by Wade, Nicholas
--Edward J. Lazzerini, Professor of Central Eurasian History, Indiana University
--William G. Dever,"Who Were the Early Israelites and Where Did They Come from?" (2003);ISBN 0-8028-0975-8
-- Amihai Mazar,"Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, 10,000 - 586 B.C.E."(1990);ISBN 0-385-42590-2

p.s.... don't argue with me about these things, I can't go into too much detail here...but what I know. You will never know... because it is my job to know these sorts of things... end of discussion.
 
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papasmerf

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persis said:
BS..
the DNA/BGA researchers have determined that European Jews are overwhelmingly of European stock / white races, Slavs(Indo-European mixing with Finno-Uralic), northwestern Europeans (Nordic) and Central Asian(Khazar) with the non-Israelite Y , Q and R1a1 ranging from 73.39% to 86.4% which is NOT related to Semitic Genetics, of Jewish communities of Palestinian & Syrians which share a genetic link, this is also true to lesser extend about the Sephardim of Europe i.e. Italian/Spanish Jews (from Mediterranean mixed with Middle-eastern) who have much higher Semitic Genetic counts
It is fraud for hired guns- publications & scientist (i.e, Dr. Schiffman, Judaic Studies at New York University) to misrepresent & refute these documented discoveries by over emphasizing there minor Italian/Spanish- Semitic Genetic of 13.6% -26% over there major Europeans DNA of 73.39%
You can have two genealogical DNA testing to determine your paternal ancestry...DNA-1 & DNA-2 [HVR1 and HVR2] which will reveal your most recent common ancestory by regions as %, it may cost you about $250 (try it)
What surprises me most ignorant people in the world want to be white... you people are the only ignorant people, I know of, who are actually white but prefer not to be...anyways, I have given you just a few references out of many to look up for yourself, for that you need to actually go to library instead of reading propaganda web sites.


--Wade, Nicholas (January 14 2006). "New Light on Origins of Ashkenazi in Europe"
--L'histoire retrouvée des Khazars" / the 2nd edition of The Jews of Khazaria (October 2006) by Wade, Nicholas
--Edward J. Lazzerini, Professor of Central Eurasian History, Indiana University
--William G. Dever,"Who Were the Early Israelites and Where Did They Come from?" (2003);ISBN 0-8028-0975-8
-- Amihai Mazar,"Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, 10,000 - 586 B.C.E."(1990;ISBN 0-385-42590-2

p.s.... don't argue with me about these things, I can't go into too much detail here...but what I know. You will never know... because it is my job to know these sorts of things... end of discussion.
Hmmmmmmmmm

so what you are saying is because Jews were driven into Europe and mixed with Europen blood lines, Israel has no right to exist????? That could be inbreeding talking on your part.
 

Aardvark154

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persis said:
you need to actually go to library instead of reading propaganda web sites. . . don't argue with me about these things, I can't go into too much detail here...but what I know. You will never know... because it is my job to know these sorts of things... end of discussion.
Plenty of falsehood has been printed in books. The articles I cited were published in peer-reviewed scientific journals I believe that speaks for itself.
 

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Persis, your argument based on "trust me I know because it's my job to know, what I know you will never know"... I'm sure I don't have your "training" but at least I don't not to take you at your word.

This is Missouri. Show me.

(Believe me, I have a good sense of who you're working for.)

Or I'll show you. THis took me 10 seconds to find:

Studies to Date

"Figure: Relatedness of Jewish and non-Jewish populations based on Y chromosomal haplotypes. Virtually all Jews came from the Middle East as evidenced by the clustering of their Y chromosomal haplotypes between Jewish groups and between Jews and non-Jewish Middle Easterners."

http://www.med.nyu.edu/pediatrics/genetics/research/jewish_origins.html

Oh, must be a Zionist-controlled experiement! Or maybe the researchers involved just said "oh believe me, because what I know you will never know"...
 

Aardvark154

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persis said:
you people are the only ignorant people, I know of, who are actually white but prefer not to be.
There you go again with your favorate word "you." I believe you make the mistaken leap of logic that everyone here who writes that much of what you post is nonsense must perforce be Jewish.

Also be careful with your use of "you people" out in the real world of North America, most groups be they Indian-Canadians or African-Americans etc. . tend to get their backs up when "you people" is used. :mad:
 

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papasmerf said:
Zaig
I think you will find most Christians will stand beside you in this fight. We will do so proudly and without reservation.
As far as the boys you mentioned you will find they have one thing in common, they cut, paste and insult
persis said:
These people are taking good Christians as fools... many of these so-called Jews do not even believe in Yahweh...
They have adopted Judaism by conversion in large masses for political reasons … fraud as far as Sephardi Jews are concerned... They certainly have no lineal connexion with the Biblical Hebrews....
For the least, Jews do not consider us “infidels”, and do not intend on killing us for being labeled as such. Moslems do, based on their Koran and the prophet of islam’s teachings.:mad:
 

slowandeasy

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zaig said:
Cinelli,

I hope you are single, because I wouldn't want your children to be poisoned like you are.
Unfortunately, this is the lasting legacy that many in the middle east leave.. children that have been poisoned...

Zaig....I believe that there are many ignorants on both sides (i will allow that one side does seem to have much more than the other) who perpetuate this sick and destructive cycle.

I really don't think that there will be peace in the Middle East until one side totally wipes out the other...
 

persis

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DATYdude said:
Persis, your argument based on "trust me I know because it's my job to know, what I know you will never know"... I'm sure I don't have your "training" but at least I don't not to take you at your word.

This is Missouri. Show me.

(Believe me, I have a good sense of who you're working for.)

Or I'll show you. THis took me 10 seconds to find:

Studies to Date

"Figure: Relatedness of Jewish and non-Jewish populations based on Y chromosomal haplotypes. Virtually all Jews came from the Middle East as evidenced by the clustering of their Y chromosomal haplotypes between Jewish groups and between Jews and non-Jewish Middle Easterners."

http://www.med.nyu.edu/pediatrics/genetics/research/jewish_origins.html

Oh, must be a Zionist-controlled experiement! Or maybe the researchers involved just said "oh believe me, because what I know you will never know"...
Whatever you say!

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http://www.khazaria.com/brook.html
http://www.khazaria.com/brook-reviews.html
Kitab al Khazari
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/khz/index.htm
http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=42590&p=1010575
 

DATYdude

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;) You depend on lazy minds, that's why you're here.
 

themexi

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DATYdude said:
FRED DO YOU REALLY THINK THIS A-HOLE HATER HAS ANY PLACE ON THIS BOARD? DOES SOMEONE REALLY HAVE TO LODGE A COMPLAINT AGAINST TERB OR ITS HOST ISP???

Wow, is threatening to call the chrc thought police really necessary?

I disagree with some of what the guy posts too but that type of debt stifling is just innapropriate. Besides.... he claims that people shut down & stifle any debate whenever israel is criticized & you threaten to do just that.

We may disagree on few issues but I do respect your intelligence & ability to actually debate using facts. Resorting to informing on the whole site to the thought gestapo is beneath you.
 

themexi

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As for the Ashkenazi situation, it does make sense that they can detect some ncestrl connection to the origional tribes.

When the Khazars chnged the state religion to Jewish there must have been quite a few origionals there. Then, once it was a Jewish nation more had a reason & a safe place to go to. Since it was in existence for a fair amount of time, intermarrying & intermingling of the bloodlines was only natural, so instead of origional Jews & converts they were eventully all homogenieously Jewish.

I could see where there might be some room for debate as to where the homeland should be (Khazaria or Palestine), but saying that there isn't any link between the Ashkenazi & the origionl tribes is basically calling them a bunch of fakes & poseurs & in addition to being factually incorrect is just mean.
 
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