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Leimonis

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I bet you don't have actual stats to back this up. In before, "households with guns are more likely to be shot by their own gun" bullshit.
isn’t it self evident that having a gun is unlikely to help you and likely to hurt you either physically or legally?
 
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cunning linguist

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isn’t it self evident that having a gun is unlikely to help you and likely to hurt you either physically or legally?
Isn't it self evident that owning a private vehicle makes you more susceptible to being in a motor vehicle accident? :rolleyes:

That's the level of mental midgetry you're displaying right now.
 

Leimonis

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Isn't it self evident that owning a private vehicle makes you more susceptible to being in a motor vehicle accident? :rolleyes:

That's the level of mental midgetry you're displaying right now.
of course if you own a vehicle you are more likely to get into an accident. Is anyone fucking stupid enough to deny it? Also, midgetry is not a word unless maybe you own a gun lol

PS - before you get into a car accident your vehicle takes you places.
Owning a gun takes you places in your head, but actually you mostly get to hang with other small dick clowns who were brainwashed to associate guns with freedom
 
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rgkv

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two young girls, cheerleaders, go to wrong car in parking lot...SHOT by another fellow American. I guess one way to look at it, give it time, they should become extinct...
 

basketcase

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But the SCOTUS will no do that because they've already decided the matter. ...
I don't disagree with the fact that the current court wont but law is constantly being reinterpreted.

Also, the fact that many states require background checks and have red flag laws says that there is nothing about them that conflicts with current interpretation of the 2nd.
 
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Because it doesn't align with the "systemic racism" narrative that democrats like to push?
???

Yes, systemic racism is tied into criminal activity as gangs have always been a result of disenfranchisement and poverty. And more significantly, systemic racism explains why the media tends to be far more interested in killings of young white women then they are about young black men.
 

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Define "documented history of mental health issues...etc." don't forget there are people making the argument that wanting to transition should be considered a "mental health issue". Are you for denying "John" his constitutional right in the US, simply because they're considering becoming "Jane"?

Back to the stop-and-frisk; if you support proactive, preventative measures like red flag laws, surely you support other proactive public safety measures like stop-and-frisk or carding, right? [/sarcasm]

As the gun conTROLLs like to say, "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about."
Do you think people with a documented history of mental health issues where family and medical professionals see them as a threat to the public should be allowed to keep their guns?
 

basketcase

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I bet you don't have actual stats to back this up. In before, "households with guns are more likely to be shot by their own gun" bullshit.
Guns sure helped the old guy 'protect' himself from a band geek.

Guns wouldn't be as much of an issue is the gun lobby didn't manufacture a culture of fear to push sales.
 

rgkv

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If the NRA had their way, the robber would have his own concealed weapon. That way if the homeowner pulled a gun the robber could shot the homeowner first before the robber robbed the place
 

Dutch Oven

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If the NRA had their way, the robber would have his own concealed weapon. That way if the homeowner pulled a gun the robber could shot the homeowner first before the robber robbed the place
Robbers aren't generally very brave. They tend to pick targets that aren't willing or able to fight back if things get physical. There would be a lot fewer home robberies here in Canada if robbers knew they were rolling the dice as to what might happen once they got inside.
 

Dutch Oven

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Do you think people with a documented history of mental health issues where family and medical professionals see them as a threat to the public should be allowed to keep their guns?
Shouldn't such people be in mandatory custody, just like they were prior to moving to a community mental health model here in Ontario?
 

rgkv

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here we go.. Donald Dump demands we arm more people...all teachers. Now we just wait till the teacher loses it and blasts away
 

rgkv

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3 SHOT after ball rolls into neighbors yard... just another American idiot with a gun
 

Valcazar

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There is nothing preventing the SCOTUS from interpreting the 2nd based on the phrase "well regulated" (other than loads of gun lobby cash).
There's a lot preventing this SCOTUS from interpreting it that way.
Remember that until Heller, the SCOTUS had never interpreted it to mean that people had individual rights to guns.
Three of the five pro-Heller votes are still on the Court and the new 3 Trump justices all agree with it.

So that isn't going to change. It has been the SCOTUS view since 2008 and will remain so in the near-term.
 
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