Has Tom Cruise lost his farking mind?
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Controlling and Narcissistic
I watched that interview, and found it to be very interesting. Tom was the happy go luck guy in the first part of the interview.... but then he looked like a controlling Narcissistic prick.
He obviously has studied "the history of psychiatry" etc...and has some great examples of when it has failed... has he also conducted any "research" on how often it has succeeded.
What I found interesting about Tom's diatribe was that he somehow considered himself to be an expert on psychiatry over the world's doctors.. most of whom have had years of education and training as well as the monitoring of self-regulatory bodies... But TOM CRUISE, knows the history of psychiatry from the "research" that he has done....
I wonder when he has time to do this research in between making movies, TV appearances, spending time with his children, changing girlfriends every few months....
What a shithead...
I watched that interview, and found it to be very interesting. Tom was the happy go luck guy in the first part of the interview.... but then he looked like a controlling Narcissistic prick.
He obviously has studied "the history of psychiatry" etc...and has some great examples of when it has failed... has he also conducted any "research" on how often it has succeeded.
What I found interesting about Tom's diatribe was that he somehow considered himself to be an expert on psychiatry over the world's doctors.. most of whom have had years of education and training as well as the monitoring of self-regulatory bodies... But TOM CRUISE, knows the history of psychiatry from the "research" that he has done....
I wonder when he has time to do this research in between making movies, TV appearances, spending time with his children, changing girlfriends every few months....
What a shithead...
I happen to agree with Cruise. Psychiatrists and psychologist have spent years and years inventing disorders and mental illnesses which in reality do not exist, but they have to be able to justify their treatment and get paid for it. They are backed by the pharmaceutical companies which are the most heinous examples of corporate greed in the U.S.A., and by parents who wish to have fictitious explanations/excuses created for their children's poor performance in school, instead of simply accepting that their kid is fucking dumb. As a result, kids are no longer dumb, rather it's ADD or ADHD or some other pseudo learning disability keeping them from reaching their potential. So now, we have psychiatrists overmedicating these kids to treat their nonexistent disorders and we also have an increasingly uneducated population.
Y'all should lay off Tom Cruise and read the book "The Dumbing Down of America." All Cruise did was expose the single greatest fraud on the American public. And for that he should be given a commendation, not the rude treatment he's received in this thread.
Y'all should lay off Tom Cruise and read the book "The Dumbing Down of America." All Cruise did was expose the single greatest fraud on the American public. And for that he should be given a commendation, not the rude treatment he's received in this thread.
I saw the same interview, i'm not by any stretch a Tom fan, but watched it to see what all the buzz was about. Apparently Spielburg's movie with him as the lead is expected to tank big time...(as we both saw)..it going to make hollywood history as the biggest bust ever, they think. I imagine we saw some Tom-rage there. If you have ever known any scientologists, you can sense the rage simmering just below the surface in most of them. I've known lots of them due to business I had just next to church, and they are definitely a cult of people with a lot of personal issues. Take a scientologist and make him America's number one star, and the problem just has to compound.slowandeasy said:
Guys,
Cruise's new movie may suck, and maybe he should spend more time promoting it, and maybe the scientologists are a dangerous cult, but the bottom line is he spoke out on an issue and happened to be correct in what he said. To the extent that he used his celebrity status to get some people thinking about one of the greatest frauds being perpetrated on the American public, which is being backed by the greedy pharmaceutical companies, I say give him a medal.
Cruise's new movie may suck, and maybe he should spend more time promoting it, and maybe the scientologists are a dangerous cult, but the bottom line is he spoke out on an issue and happened to be correct in what he said. To the extent that he used his celebrity status to get some people thinking about one of the greatest frauds being perpetrated on the American public, which is being backed by the greedy pharmaceutical companies, I say give him a medal.
Perhaps TERBites are more enlightened than the general public, but I thought the expose about this was done 5 - 10 years ago. The debate about Ritalin rages on today.EagerBeaver said:
At issue is not that Tom believes that anti-depressants were/are prescribed too often... it's his claim that all depression can be cured without anti-depressants is... well... just crazy talk. I think that he even said that most of what ails you can be cured by diet and exercise and huge amounts of cocaine.. (OK...i added the bit about cocaine)....
If you have ever suffered or had someone close to you suffer from depression,
you will probably be able to see just how stupid Tom's comments are....
His comment about Brooke Shields taking anti-depressants is "just wrong" is just dumb...
He is already a pin-head, you might as well give him a medal for it..
I believe the whole "depression as a medical condition" is promoted by the pharmacuetical companies entirely so that they can profit by selling their "solution" a.k.a. drugs.
Drugs are not a cure but merely a control for depression. Not only, but most people get mentally and physically worse from all the side effects of taking psych drugs.
To me the idea of popping a pill to cure depression makes about as much sense as lobotomy to cure bad dreams. I've suffered from depression, I know many other people who have as well. The only thing that works is therapy and/or the individual will to move past depression. I had the chance to take prescribed drugs, I decided against it as I did not want to live life with drugs numbing or otherwise altering my perception of reality. It was a tough call I'll admit and certainly there were times I coulda used a happy pill to get me through some situations but I know problems don't go away by masking them.
Additionally I will say that indeed nutritional difficiencies, lack of rest, constant daily stress, toxic enviroments, negative people, etc. can be if not cause then certainly an aggrevant to depression.
Drugs are not a cure but merely a control for depression. Not only, but most people get mentally and physically worse from all the side effects of taking psych drugs.
To me the idea of popping a pill to cure depression makes about as much sense as lobotomy to cure bad dreams. I've suffered from depression, I know many other people who have as well. The only thing that works is therapy and/or the individual will to move past depression. I had the chance to take prescribed drugs, I decided against it as I did not want to live life with drugs numbing or otherwise altering my perception of reality. It was a tough call I'll admit and certainly there were times I coulda used a happy pill to get me through some situations but I know problems don't go away by masking them.
Additionally I will say that indeed nutritional difficiencies, lack of rest, constant daily stress, toxic enviroments, negative people, etc. can be if not cause then certainly an aggrevant to depression.
Yes, I - And I Am Sure A Large Portion Of The Western World - Thinks Ol' Tommy Boy...
...has indeed lost his mind...in fact, he is fucking whack-job if ever there was one...and not a very articulate one, at that...
Baron
...has indeed lost his mind...in fact, he is fucking whack-job if ever there was one...and not a very articulate one, at that...
Baron
You can believe whatever you like. Science is based on fact. But you and Tom are welcome to your faith. It's pretty well established that drugs have the ability to alter the mind; it's not far from there to the idea that drugs can be used to intentionally manipulate mental state--say, curing depression.Eli said:
There is substantial evidence that some kinds of depression are literally chemical. Perhaps the current drugs on the market have nasty side effects, and perhaps some of them don't work as advertised. But, sooner or later, some drug will. To deny that outright as you are, and as Tom did, is pure faith in opposition to fact.
Of course, some kinds of depression come from, say, going through a divorce, or losing a family member. Even in these cases where environmental factors are clear mind altering drugs may help bridge through to the point where time has done its healing.
"Only" is a pretty strong statement. You better have a lot of facts and data to back that up. Your opinion, your personal experience, is simply not enough to make such a sweeping statement.
No doubt. It's a long way to go from a useful statement like that to "only therapy works" and "drugs are not a cure".
stinkynutsSeems like this "church" is nothing but a cult of some sort.[/QUOTE said:I don't know if anyone here is aware of this, but Scientology was created by L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer. So IMO, it doesn't have a lot of merit.
As far as Cruise is concerned, I agree that there seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to prescribe whatever to treat mental illness. He also has a point that it's in physicians' interest to prescribe these drugs because they do get paid off by the pharmaceutical companies.
However, saying that ALL mental illness can be cured without drugs is as bad as saying ALL mental illness can be cured WITH drugs. I think he just chose a poor way to communicate his beliefs. If you want to make an intellectual point, you can do it without jumping all over Matt Lauer.
The brain is an organ just like any other in the body, but infinately more complex. Like the heart, where sometimes a drug is needed to control blood pressure, or as insulin is needed to control diabetes. Occasionally the brain needs a drug to control a chemical imbalance. Some people might call this a mental problem, but in fact it is very physical in nature, with mental side effects.
On the other side of things, sometimes a person might have to deal with an issue so large, that they are not capable of handling it. The mind compensates by blocking things out, distorting the facts and protecting the being. These type of things need therapy.
Therapy was designed to look at mental health issues that one is having, understand why one is having them, and find a healthy way to deal with the issues. It is intended to be a path of self-discovery if you will.
For a person to say that any mental illness can be cured without drugs is just ignorant. It is the same as saying any physical illness can be cured by exercise alone. Of course, exersise may help in a lot of the cases, it is certainly not a remedy for everything.
So yes, Tom Cruise either needs therapy, drugs or an education.
On the other side of things, sometimes a person might have to deal with an issue so large, that they are not capable of handling it. The mind compensates by blocking things out, distorting the facts and protecting the being. These type of things need therapy.
Therapy was designed to look at mental health issues that one is having, understand why one is having them, and find a healthy way to deal with the issues. It is intended to be a path of self-discovery if you will.
For a person to say that any mental illness can be cured without drugs is just ignorant. It is the same as saying any physical illness can be cured by exercise alone. Of course, exersise may help in a lot of the cases, it is certainly not a remedy for everything.
So yes, Tom Cruise either needs therapy, drugs or an education.
Yes I can agree how my saying "only" is too conclusive. Certainly if a physical brain is damaged in some way drugs may be applicable. Holistically I think there are alternatives.
I do feel that many who suffer from depression need to deal with the issue/incident(s) that caused the depression. Unfortunatly in our faced paced society it seems a lot more convienient to just pop a pill than to take the time to deal with situations and/or people that are the cause for depression in our lives.
Recently I had a friend who went on a drinking binge in order to deal with the depression he felt after finding out his girlfriend was cheating on him. The alchole didn't solve the issue as to why he was depressed it mearly numbed him to the pain he was feeling. Needless to say he awoke the next morning with a hangover and the depression still there.
I wont be hypocritical, I'll admit that I've used alchole and cigarettes (both of which can be considered mind altering drugs) to deal with depressive situations. But I know my problems didn't go away until I delt with them straight on and with a clear and lucid mind.
I do feel that many who suffer from depression need to deal with the issue/incident(s) that caused the depression. Unfortunatly in our faced paced society it seems a lot more convienient to just pop a pill than to take the time to deal with situations and/or people that are the cause for depression in our lives.
Recently I had a friend who went on a drinking binge in order to deal with the depression he felt after finding out his girlfriend was cheating on him. The alchole didn't solve the issue as to why he was depressed it mearly numbed him to the pain he was feeling. Needless to say he awoke the next morning with a hangover and the depression still there.
I wont be hypocritical, I'll admit that I've used alchole and cigarettes (both of which can be considered mind altering drugs) to deal with depressive situations. But I know my problems didn't go away until I delt with them straight on and with a clear and lucid mind.
I don't know why people are jumping all over Tom Cruise. I didn't see the original interview, but I did see edited clips on one of those entertainment magazine shows. I thought he came across as completely rational if a bit aggressive. So he's a bit intense sometimes. Big deal. Its quite plain that as a society we are waaaaay over prescribed and over medicated by doctors. And Tom's point that the interviewer knew nothing about the history of psychiatry is probably dead on. If he did state that ALL psychiatric drugs are bad and should never be used, then before passing judgement on him for saying that, one should at least listen to what he does think should be done in place of the drugs. I think what Cruise was so pissed about was that school boards are forcing kids to go on ridelin in order to manage their behavior, instead of looking at drug free ways to deal with behavioral problems.
He probably over generalized if he condemned all behavioral drug therapy, and he probably went too far in criticizing Brooke Shields, although if Brooke Shields is going to write a book about it, she's opening herself up to that kind of criticism. Good for him. Everyone should be more vocal and active about important social issues. He sounded more informed than most people do on the subject.
He probably over generalized if he condemned all behavioral drug therapy, and he probably went too far in criticizing Brooke Shields, although if Brooke Shields is going to write a book about it, she's opening herself up to that kind of criticism. Good for him. Everyone should be more vocal and active about important social issues. He sounded more informed than most people do on the subject.
