I got Herpes from a BBBJ

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I am writing this as a cautionary tale to others. I don't want people to over react, but I'm sure some will and others will call me a liar and tell me this is a useless thread unless I name names. I will ignore those individuals because I think it is worthwhile to remind each other of the risks from time to time. I was aware of those risks, but (like most of us I assume) had convinced myself it would not happen to me.

I have visited MP's and escort agencies over the years and tried to limit my risks to some extent. I rarely engaged in DATY, never received PS's and certainly never even considered engaging in BBFS or anything that would be considered "risky" by most hobbiests. However, I certainly received countless BBBJ's over the years and often enjoyed BBBJ only sessions.

I have been a long time hobbiest and have contributed many reviews to the board over the years under a different handle. I created a new handle for this post to avoid the inevitable speculation this type of post would generate if I posted under my regular handle. The reality is that I had been pretty active in the hobby lately and don't know exactly where I got genital herpes from, but I have only hobbied at well-known "high end" spas in Toronto and used a handful of equally well-known and reputable agencies at in-call locations in downtown Toronto, Markham and by the airport. I have only received BBBJ's within the last month or so (no CFS) and could probably narrow down the lady who gave it to me to 2 or 3 guesses, but I don't think it's fair to guess. There's no point in others trying to figure out my regular handle and looking at recent reviews, because I did not even get around to posting reviews about 2 of the ladies who I think are the most likely candidates to have given this to me.

I have done a fair bit of research and reading about Herpes the last couple of weeks and, while educating myself has helped me start to deal with this, the reality is that it is still pretty devastating emotionally and will likely ruin my marriage and perhaps my entire life (at least it feels that way now). While the stigma is probably worse than the virus itself, the reality is that I will likely never again experience the pleasure of condom free sex (or maybe any sex at all) in my personal life and I would definitely trade all the BBBJ's I received over the years for that if I could do it over again. We all make choices and I will have to learn to live with the consequences of mine, but I urge you guys to at least consider whether BBBJ's are worthwhile for you.

If you can accept the risk (which I believe is still somewhat small) then go out there and enjoy yourselves. I assure you that I am now fully retired and won't risk spreading this any further, but I have to imagine that there are both sex workers and customers who continue to participate in this hobby and provide or receive some uncovered services despite knowing that they are infected. Even if they only engage in "safe" services, the risk of transmission is still there, both during outbreaks and during periods of latency. I feel pretty alone at the moment, but I know this has happened to others and will continue to happen in the future, including to some who will get infected and never even know it, but may still pass it on to others in their personal lives. I suppose there are worse things that could happen in life, but at this point this feels like the worst given that it is permanent and incurable.

I certainly can't slam a hobby that I enjoyed so much over the years, but be safe guys, make sure you understand the risks and think about whether those are risks you are willing to take given your situation.
 

drew50

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Appreciate your post.....and it's certainly got me thinking about having safer sex moving forward.
Probably should have switched to cbj quite some time ago given that it doesn't provide (me) with lesser stimuli compared to bbbj......and cim doesn't really get me off.

Thanks again!
 

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You're retired? How much longer do you think your cock will continue working whether you got herpes or not? Not talking down on you, just putting it out there.
 

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The guy is feeling emotionally traumatised because of what he experienced. I suspect he is not in a mental frame of mind to engage in sex right now......so I'm not sure what relevance there is asking how much longer his cock will work.

BUT, I've been on this board long enough to know that these are the kinds of queries and posts he will receive.
 

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The guy is feeling emotionally traumatised because of what he experienced. I suspect he is not in a mental frame of mind to engage in sex right now......so I'm not sure what relevance there is asking how much longer his cock will work.

BUT, I've been on this board long enough to know that these are the kinds of queries and posts he will receive.
My point is we all have a limited time window with which to enjoy ourselves in this hobby. If you're near the end of your hobby career anyway, not sure if regret is appropriate vs. the years (decades?) of fun prior.
 

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Does your wife know re the herpes? If you are having an outbreak right now - it’s impossible to hide.

It may also be a good idea to let the spas/agencies you frequent often re which ladies you may have infected. At the very least they will be more careful and mindful re any changes to their bodies and/or get tested/looked at by a professional just in case.

Based on your post re all the locations (Mp and sp) it looks like you went out of your way to hobby on a rampage.

Pls keep us updated and best of luck
 

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Does your wife know re the herpes? If you are having an outbreak right now - it’s impossible to hide.

It may also be a good idea to let the spas/agencies you frequent often re which ladies you may have infected. At the very least they will be more careful and mindful re any changes to their bodies and/or get tested/looked at by a professional just in case.

Based on your post re all the locations (Mp and sp) it looks like you went out of your way to hobby on a rampage.

Pls keep us updated and best of luck
Yeah it sounds like he could have had it for awhile and then spread it around to different MPA’s and agency SP’s who could now in turn be spreading it around even more.

Looks like I’m not hobbying for awhile especially from girls who are known to do things bare.
 

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Every hobby has a risk but this is serious business. Not knowing where, when or by who you can get infected gives me the chills. There is no safety net in this hobby.
All the best to you Regret. Hope you get through all this without too much damage to yourself and your personal life.
As for me, No thanks to CBJ, BBBJ, CIM, DFK, LFK, DATY etc.
 

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I am writing this as a cautionary tale to others. I don't want people to over react, but I'm sure some will and others will call me a liar and tell me this is a useless thread unless I name names. I will ignore those individuals because I think it is worthwhile to remind each other of the risks from time to time. I was aware of those risks, but (like most of us I assume) had convinced myself it would not happen to me.

I have visited MP's and escort agencies over the years and tried to limit my risks to some extent. I rarely engaged in DATY, never received PS's and certainly never even considered engaging in BBFS or anything that would be considered "risky" by most hobbiests. However, I certainly received countless BBBJ's over the years and often enjoyed BBBJ only sessions.

I have been a long time hobbiest and have contributed many reviews to the board over the years under a different handle. I created a new handle for this post to avoid the inevitable speculation this type of post would generate if I posted under my regular handle. The reality is that I had been pretty active in the hobby lately and don't know exactly where I got genital herpes from, but I have only hobbied at well-known "high end" spas in Toronto and used a handful of equally well-known and reputable agencies at in-call locations in downtown Toronto, Markham and by the airport. I have only received BBBJ's within the last month or so (no CFS) and could probably narrow down the lady who gave it to me to 2 or 3 guesses, but I don't think it's fair to guess. There's no point in others trying to figure out my regular handle and looking at recent reviews, because I did not even get around to posting reviews about 2 of the ladies who I think are the most likely candidates to have given this to me.

I have done a fair bit of research and reading about Herpes the last couple of weeks and, while educating myself has helped me start to deal with this, the reality is that it is still pretty devastating emotionally and will likely ruin my marriage and perhaps my entire life (at least it feels that way now). While the stigma is probably worse than the virus itself, the reality is that I will likely never again experience the pleasure of condom free sex (or maybe any sex at all) in my personal life and I would definitely trade all the BBBJ's I received over the years for that if I could do it over again. We all make choices and I will have to learn to live with the consequences of mine, but I urge you guys to at least consider whether BBBJ's are worthwhile for you.

If you can accept the risk (which I believe is still somewhat small) then go out there and enjoy yourselves. I assure you that I am now fully retired and won't risk spreading this any further, but I have to imagine that there are both sex workers and customers who continue to participate in this hobby and provide or receive some uncovered services despite knowing that they are infected. Even if they only engage in "safe" services, the risk of transmission is still there, both during outbreaks and during periods of latency. I feel pretty alone at the moment, but I know this has happened to others and will continue to happen in the future, including to some who will get infected and never even know it, but may still pass it on to others in their personal lives. I suppose there are worse things that could happen in life, but at this point this feels like the worst given that it is permanent and incurable.

I certainly can't slam a hobby that I enjoyed so much over the years, but be safe guys, make sure you understand the risks and think about whether those are risks you are willing to take given your situation.
Sorry to hear. One question.

Do you have any history of cold sores on your lips, i.e. herpes labialis?

My understanding (not sure if it is correct) is that if you have had labial herpes you have an immunity to genital herpes. Just wondering.
 

koreanjames

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Not true - they are for the most part - different virual types hsv1 and hsv2 (cold sores vs genitals). There is no immunity if u have one or the other. Also while hsv1 is normally cold sores on lips - it has been known to be transferred onto the genitals and vice Versa

Sorry to hear. One question.

Do you have any history of cold sores on your lips, i.e. herpes labialis?

My understanding (not sure if it is correct) is that if you have had labial herpes you have an immunity to genital herpes. Just wondering.
 

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You're retired? How much longer do you think your cock will continue working whether you got herpes or not? Not talking down on you, just putting it out there.
I assume you're suggesting that I won't stay retired and it has certainly crossed my mind that it may be easier said than done. I guess I will just have to jerk off a lot. I'm told that I am fortunate to have HSV-1 and that I might never have another outbreak and can take anti-viral meds to make that even more likely, but still have no desire to return to hobbying.
 

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My understanding (not sure if it is correct) is that if you have had labial herpes you have an immunity to genital herpes. Just wondering.

Not at all true.

In fact, you can self-infect your eye, your dick, your ass from touching them if you touch a cold sore on your lip and then eye, dick, ass etc.

You can get oral HSV-1 on your genitals and get genital HSV-2 on your lips, eyes, ass etc.

There is no cure but there are very effective treatments. Read up on this in advance. If you ever feel symptoms, go get medication immediately as it can reduce the frequency and intensity of future outbreaks. Once you have it, there is suppressive therapy that is quite effective.

Just anecdotal experience but when I was a little kid until I was in my 20's I used to get a cold sore on my lip with the first sunburn of summer and the first windburn skiiing in the winter. My gf at the time was an MD and she got me on suppressive dose a month before and after each anticipated outbreak. I did it for a few years and no outbreaks. I do not get coldsores at all anymore but also am careful with sunscreen.

I had a (platonic) friend (a woman) who called me frantically one night telling me about the pain she was in every month. I suspected it might be herpes so told her to go to any walk in clinic and inquire about episodic treatment and suppressive treatment. Fortunately she had a drug plan (it's expensive) and got onto it immediately. I ran into her a few weeks ago and she almost cried when she saw me because she said she had not had a single outbreak in the three years since she started the treatment. She says she is now celibate because she simply can't take the risk of hurting someone but she says she is not in pain anymore and lives an otherwise normal life.

FWIW

https://www.cdc.gov/std/tg2015/herpes.htm
 

Regret

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Does your wife know re the herpes? If you are having an outbreak right now - it’s impossible to hide.

It may also be a good idea to let the spas/agencies you frequent often re which ladies you may have infected. At the very least they will be more careful and mindful re any changes to their bodies and/or get tested/looked at by a professional just in case.

Based on your post re all the locations (Mp and sp) it looks like you went out of your way to hobby on a rampage.

Pls keep us updated and best of luck
My wife does know that I have it, but not about my hobbying. I didn't mean to suggest that I had been on a particular rampage lately, I was just listing the types of places I had visited over the last few years to give people a sense of my activity and let you know that you don't have to be goign to seedy spas or visiting random escorts on Leoslist to get this.
 

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Yeah it sounds like he could have had it for awhile and then spread it around to different MPA’s and agency SP’s who could now in turn be spreading it around even more.

Looks like I’m not hobbying for awhile especially from girls who are known to do things bare.
I don't think I had it for a while. I had no prior history and then got a very clear outbreak last week. I had only seen 5 or 6 girls in the 3 week period prior to the outbreak and I really think it was one of the last two who gave it to me. I saw them on consecutive days so even if the first of those two gave it to me, I doubt I would have been able to pass it on to the 2nd girl the next day.
 

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Just fyi, I believe more than 50% of the adult population have the HSV-1 virus. Certainly not life-ending.
 

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Sorry to hear. One question.

Do you have any history of cold sores on your lips, i.e. herpes labialis?

My understanding (not sure if it is correct) is that if you have had labial herpes you have an immunity to genital herpes. Just wondering.

I have no history of cold sores and I have read that if I did it would have made it less likely (perhaps even impossible) for me to have contracted genital HSV-1 from oral sex. However, I do not think that having cold sores (i.e. HSV-1) gives you much immunity from contracting HSV-2 on your genitals, so you still need to be careful.
 

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Where does your wife think the herpes came from? I am very curious

My wife does know that I have it, but not about my hobbying. I didn't mean to suggest that I had been on a particular rampage lately, I was just listing the types of places I had visited over the last few years to give people a sense of my activity and let you know that you don't have to be goign to seedy spas or visiting random escorts on Leoslist to get this.
 

koreanjames

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My apologies - based on your post I thought you had stated you visited both MP and SP downtown, Markham and airport all in the last month

My wife does know that I have it, but not about my hobbying. I didn't mean to suggest that I had been on a particular rampage lately, I was just listing the types of places I had visited over the last few years to give people a sense of my activity and let you know that you don't have to be goign to seedy spas or visiting random escorts on Leoslist to get this.
 

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Just fyi, I believe more than 50% of the adult population have the HSV-1 virus. Certainly not life-ending.
I have read similar stats, but it still seems different once you have a confirmed outbreak on your genitals. I agree it's not life-ending, but I really don't see how I can ever have a normal sex life again. I would not want to infect anyone else and can't imagine disclosing it to anyone (particularly a SP or MPA) and having them not care about the risk. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but it seems pretty hopeless at the moment. The reality is that I have a good marriage with a decent sex life at home and just saw pros a few times a month (sometimes less) because my wife could not keep up with my libido and I got tired of bugging her for sex.
 
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