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I have a teacher friend who is planning to date a student

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He tells me he is really attracted to her and suspects that she may want to date him too if he asked her out because he feels there may be mutual attraction. Of course I told him that he is out of his mind. But he says that at this point they are only facebook friends and are not communicating socially through it (yet), and that there is no policy against being facebook friends with a student. Furthermore, the board's rules is that a teacher cannot date a current student or a former student until 1 year after she has graduated, so he intends to keep in touch with her through facebook and then ask her out 1 year after she's gone. Thus he believes that he cannot get in trouble with his plan. She's 18 and he's 35. What should I do here?
he needs to take a cold shower and forget about her there's soooo many women out there why one in his school hes asking for trouble
 

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I had a teacher I loved in high school get charged because he was dating a 16 year old student lost his job his wife everything not to mention the public humiliation they threw eggs at him as he lefted the school face was all over the media
 

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That's a tough allegation to prove. All we have is the facebook friends. Which is not illegal. If he calls up the school board with such a small amount of evidence it will just piss off his friend.
 

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The rope is in the friends hand.... if he wants to hang himself that's his choice..... albeit a stupid one.

Wasted time and money getting a B Ed

Working his way up the senoirity and pay ladder.

Throw that away to jump into a shaky at best employment market. Then again...... there's always a market for young SPs, he could be a stay at home pimp. Maybe she could get some of her friends invovled as well. SARCASM
 

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BTW who says it's his moral and civic responsibility? Many people would think what we do (see prostitutes) is breaking moral and civic standards.

Don't get me wrong the friend shouldn't be doing what he is doing but I wouldn't attach such a lofty statement as the one above. If his stupid plan is to wait a year the girl is in no real danger.
 

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if she's 18, it's not criminal, even if she is a student ... the "person of authority" clause applies only to minors ... as far as the law is concerned, as long as she's 18, it's no different than a co-ed and her professor

however, the rules for teachers go further than the law
During investigation, it could actually be proven as criminal. The girl is 18 now, but has she been 18 the entire time that he has known her? Unless he, or she, has just recently arrived at that school, odds are that he knew her as a minor and could have taught her or had contact with her. The media LOVES this kind of thing and the School Boards and Teachers' Union love to make examples of people that even walk this line. He would stand a very good chance of losing his job and getting charged criminally with sexual interference because, as others have mentioned, it would be considered grooming.

He should delete her from facebook completely and drop it. If he runs into her by chance after she leaves the school or reconnects with her through facebook after she's long gone (not hard to search her when he has her name) and they hook up, that is different. Still kinda wrong though. Dating an 18, 19, 20 year old when you're in your early 30's is not necessarily wrong, but when you are in a position of trust, such as a teacher, spiritual leader, counselor, neighbour, etc, it is. If he wants to date younguns, tell him to hit the University/College bars around town and pick up some fresh young meat that is just out of high school to quench that thirst.
 

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One of the hazards of the career. teaching 18 & 19 yr olds. He should weigh it in. after 1 year, he'll forget her because there are new 18 & 19yr olds to creep... but just telling you he's planning to date this 18 year old is creepyish to other 18 year olds. Not that I see anything wrong with it but to the eyes of 18 year olds, but what do I know.
 

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Remind him that the rules only express the minimum we demand, not the ordinary good conduct we expect, nor the exemplary conduct we want from people like teachers. Staying clear of the law now is only the beginning of what a young teacher should be considering. And as the supposedly more mature half of this couple, what is his forecast for her and her family and future if they go ahead?

More power to them both if this is something important, and wanted, entered into with care and after thought, but there wouldn't be laws and rules in the first place if this 'was just another relationship'.
 

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To the OP, it seems like you know your friend very well. You might give us a heads up of what's his plan for the 18 yr old? Watching brazzers.com doesn't really encourage "love".
 

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Remind him that the rules only express the minimum we demand, not the ordinary good conduct we expect, nor the exemplary conduct we want from people like teachers.
Great point. This in one profession where they are expected to hold a higher standard. Along the same point teachers are considered teachers 24h so if you see a student outside of school doing something illegal or dangerous you are still expected to report it.
 

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That is right, but then they will be keeping an eye on his behavior. Nothing worse than closing the barn door after the cow is out and then complaining "no one warned us"
Who do you suppose does the watching? Teachers due to the union don't watch each other and principals are too busy to "keep and eye" on him. Depending on the size of the school ther could be 50 to 100 staff memebers. Besides what would that look like?

Your suggestion might make the OP feel high and mighty for doing what you think is hte right thing but in the end it will do nothing.

Until caught in the act nothing will happen and the worst part is that there is no one to watch the guy in the first place.

Let's say you threaten your friend as you suggeseted and he tells you "sure I will stop." How will you know that he has stopped.

Unfortunately the system is based on annual criminal record checks and the honour system.

IF you really want to fuck over your friend. Call the parents.
 

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Ask your friend to describe the physical traits of the student so terbites can help in suggesting an sp who has similar looks which you can book for him.
 

frankcastle

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While we are speaking in two different directions, I think we can agree that the safety of students is paramount. The OCT conducts internal investigations into any and all allegations. That is their job as the governing body of Teachers in Ontario.
my point is that if the investigation turns up no wrongdoing then nothing will happen.

being fb friends while not advisible is not an infraction.

later if he does date her the previous investigation has no bearing because each year teachers are reminded of their legal responsibilites so warnings are not needed and ignorance is not a defense.

so if you could explain how making a call now will stop things i would love to hear it.

to me this is like calling the cops on someone who has not commited a crime and has taken legal steps towards commiting the crime. for example buying gloves and a ski mask.
 

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sorry hc i guess the moral and civic duty comment combined with a suggestion that would do nothing got me going.
 

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Frosty, there is no question that moral values are a sliding scale. However, by avering that most men share your desire to corrupt 18yr. old women, you demonstrate just what a degenerate you are!
If you had a 18yrs old daughter, I would fuck her silly. This site got tons of over 40 yrs old paying a young SP in their 18's to early 20's for one night sex. What the fuck is the difference? Oh, it's because we're paying them right and after the hour, it's good bye charlie. Give me break. Morality goes out the door. Oh and what about the clients here who cheat on their wives and girlfriends.
 

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If you had a 18yrs old daughter, I would fuck her silly. This site got tons of over 40 yrs old paying a young SP in their 18's to early 20's for one night sex. What the fuck is the difference? Oh, it's because we're paying them right and after the hour, it's good bye charlie. Give me break. Morality goes out the door. Oh and what about the clients here who cheat on their wives and girlfriends.
Frosty, I guess I take issue with your use of the word "corrupt" and in the context of the OP which was not about an SP but about a HS student. I do not think most men share your view.
 

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If you had a 18yrs old daughter, I would fuck her silly. This site got tons of over 40 yrs old paying a young SP in their 18's to early 20's for one night sex. What the fuck is the difference? Oh, it's because we're paying them right and after the hour, it's good bye charlie. Give me break. Morality goes out the door. Oh and what about the clients here who cheat on their wives and girlfriends.
Not to mention old guys in their 50s who seduce and marry sweet young girls less than 1.2 their age. Shocking.
 

frankcastle

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Not to mention old guys in their 50s who seduce and marry sweet young girls less than 1.2 their age. Shocking.
think you have the wrong factor 1.2 equals 120% less you age did you marry an ovary?

or date the mom 10 years prior to the birth of the girl in question.

if we are going to brag let's just be clear about it rather than a word peoblem :) lol
 
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