Excellent idea Rocky......and for maximum effect you should 'hand deliver' those videos in person!Rockslinger said:
You show them, you show them good, then tell us how it went!....
IRAN: it has started. I can feel it.
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You show them, you show them good, then tell us how it went!....
rocky would be much better of using Fedex.WoodPeckr said:Excellent idea Rocky......and for maximum effect you should 'hand deliver' those videos in person!
You show them, you show them good, then tell us how it went!....
is there anything that the Iranian gov't DOESN"T blame the United States for?
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090617/world/ml_iran_election
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090617/world/ml_iran_election
Perhaps Carter wanted the Shah ousted?Secret_Admirer said:
Surely you are not supporting the criminal puppet Shah the US installed.
Wow! This predated the Magna Carta by 1,700 years. Didn't know that. Good stuff!Secret_Admirer said:
I keep trying tio send those civilized treatment of Tamil protestors to the mullahs using YouTube. What is the problem? Don't the mullahs have internet?great bear said:
This is the year 2009 and not 1009.Many lives will be lost in the struggle for democracy. It just boggles the mind how religious zealots can take over a country. The mullahs and the revolutionary guard should all be beheaded ......according to Islamic law….
Secret_Admirer said:
The best thing he can do for the movement is to step on a plane headed for Tehran. What will the religious zealots do when he steps off the plane? The power of communication via the internet will be the fall of the zealots
Nope the people spoke loud and clear for Obama.Don said:
He was referring to the two 'rigged' elections of 2000 & 2004 that installed 'Dubya the Doofus'.....
These brave Iranian demonstrators are risking life and limb to seek what we have so easily taken for granted here in the West. No comparison at all.Secret_Admirer said:
Does Letter Prove Iran Election Fraud?
Tucker Reals
June 18, 2009
Two prominent Iranian film makers have asked European countries not to acknowledge the legitimacy of Iran's June 12 elections, claiming a letter proves the results were fabricated.
Marjane Satrapi (at left), who was behind the acclaimed animated feature film "Persepolis," and filmmaker Mohsen Makhmalbaf addressed a gathering of Green Party members of the European Parliament on Tuesday and presented a letter which they claim shows the real vote count from the disputed election.
A video posted on YouTube shows the two addressing the meeting in Farsi and English (the Farsi remarks are translated, so don't stop watching when you fail to hear a recognizable word right away). Makhmalbaf is reportedly a known acquaintance of opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.
The letter they present to the MEPs has been circulated for several days, but its contents cannot be verified. It is claimed the letter was a confidential note sent by Iran's Interior Minister (the Interior Ministry is in charge of running elections in the country) to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Below is the complete text of the letter, dated June 13, translated by CBS News:
Salaam Aleikum.
Following your concerns regarding the results of the presidential election and per your given discretion to have Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad remain as president during this sensitive juncture. Therefore, everything has been planned in a way that the public announcement will be made in accordance with the interests of the regime and the revolution. All necessary precautions have been taken to deal with any unexpected events of election aftermath and the intense monitoring of all the parties' leaders as well as the election candidates.
However, for your information, the real votes counted are as follows:
Total number of votes: 43,026,078
Mir Hossein Mousavi: 19,075,623
Mehdi Karoubi 13,387,104
Mhmoud Ahmadinejad: 5,698,417
Muhsen Rezai: 3,754,218
Void: 38,716
Minister of Interior
Sadegh Mahsouli
Again, CBS News has no way of verifying the authenticity of the document, which has been widely circulated by Mousavi's supporters. The official results, as announced by the government just hours after polls closed, showed a landslide victory for Ahmadinejad – with more than 60 percent of the vote tally.
Veteran journalist Robert Fisk also reported on the letter Thursday in The Independent.
He asks some very good questions of the purported evidence, photocopies of which have been widely disseminated among opposition supporters.
"Could this letter be a fake? Even if Mr. Mousavi won so many votes, could the colorless Mr. Karroubi have followed only six million votes behind him? And however incredible Mr. Ahmadinejad's officially declared 63 per cent of the vote may have been, could he really — as a man who has immense support among the poor of Iran — have picked up only five-and-a-half million votes?"
There has been little certainty with regard to any of the "facts" to emerge from Iran during the past week. Mr. Fisk probably hit the nail on the head with his following paragraph, which highlights the level to which propaganda is driving this news story:
"The letter may well join the thousands of documents, real and forged, that have shaped Iran's recent history, the most memorable of which were the Irish passports upon which Messers Robert McFarlane and Oliver North travelled to Iran on behalf of the US government in 1986 to offer missiles for hostages. The passports were real – and stolen – but the identities written onto the document were fake. Mr. Ahmadinejad's loyalists will undoubtedly blame "foreigners" for the "letter" to Ayatollah Khamenei. But its electrifying effect on the Mousavi camp will only help to transform suspicion into the absolute conviction that their leader was quite deliberately deprived of the presidency."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06...y5095195.shtml
Tucker Reals
June 18, 2009
Two prominent Iranian film makers have asked European countries not to acknowledge the legitimacy of Iran's June 12 elections, claiming a letter proves the results were fabricated.
Marjane Satrapi (at left), who was behind the acclaimed animated feature film "Persepolis," and filmmaker Mohsen Makhmalbaf addressed a gathering of Green Party members of the European Parliament on Tuesday and presented a letter which they claim shows the real vote count from the disputed election.
A video posted on YouTube shows the two addressing the meeting in Farsi and English (the Farsi remarks are translated, so don't stop watching when you fail to hear a recognizable word right away). Makhmalbaf is reportedly a known acquaintance of opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi.
The letter they present to the MEPs has been circulated for several days, but its contents cannot be verified. It is claimed the letter was a confidential note sent by Iran's Interior Minister (the Interior Ministry is in charge of running elections in the country) to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Below is the complete text of the letter, dated June 13, translated by CBS News:
Salaam Aleikum.
Following your concerns regarding the results of the presidential election and per your given discretion to have Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad remain as president during this sensitive juncture. Therefore, everything has been planned in a way that the public announcement will be made in accordance with the interests of the regime and the revolution. All necessary precautions have been taken to deal with any unexpected events of election aftermath and the intense monitoring of all the parties' leaders as well as the election candidates.
However, for your information, the real votes counted are as follows:
Total number of votes: 43,026,078
Mir Hossein Mousavi: 19,075,623
Mehdi Karoubi 13,387,104
Mhmoud Ahmadinejad: 5,698,417
Muhsen Rezai: 3,754,218
Void: 38,716
Minister of Interior
Sadegh Mahsouli
Again, CBS News has no way of verifying the authenticity of the document, which has been widely circulated by Mousavi's supporters. The official results, as announced by the government just hours after polls closed, showed a landslide victory for Ahmadinejad – with more than 60 percent of the vote tally.
Veteran journalist Robert Fisk also reported on the letter Thursday in The Independent.
He asks some very good questions of the purported evidence, photocopies of which have been widely disseminated among opposition supporters.
"Could this letter be a fake? Even if Mr. Mousavi won so many votes, could the colorless Mr. Karroubi have followed only six million votes behind him? And however incredible Mr. Ahmadinejad's officially declared 63 per cent of the vote may have been, could he really — as a man who has immense support among the poor of Iran — have picked up only five-and-a-half million votes?"
There has been little certainty with regard to any of the "facts" to emerge from Iran during the past week. Mr. Fisk probably hit the nail on the head with his following paragraph, which highlights the level to which propaganda is driving this news story:
"The letter may well join the thousands of documents, real and forged, that have shaped Iran's recent history, the most memorable of which were the Irish passports upon which Messers Robert McFarlane and Oliver North travelled to Iran on behalf of the US government in 1986 to offer missiles for hostages. The passports were real – and stolen – but the identities written onto the document were fake. Mr. Ahmadinejad's loyalists will undoubtedly blame "foreigners" for the "letter" to Ayatollah Khamenei. But its electrifying effect on the Mousavi camp will only help to transform suspicion into the absolute conviction that their leader was quite deliberately deprived of the presidency."
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06...y5095195.shtml
CBS News tonight did a bit of analysis of this Iranian election.
They said in the end, the two candidates were not really that different and are both conservative Iranians. It's just Ahmadinejad who claims victory is more of a radical nutjob than Mousavi.
You could say the difference is like comparing DICK Cheney to McCain.
They said in the end, the two candidates were not really that different and are both conservative Iranians. It's just Ahmadinejad who claims victory is more of a radical nutjob than Mousavi.
You could say the difference is like comparing DICK Cheney to McCain.
The election that wasn't
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35227
A very candid interview with a former political prisoner in Iran, who explains what really happened during the country's recent sham election.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35227
A very candid interview with a former political prisoner in Iran, who explains what really happened during the country's recent sham election.
