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I have no idea what it is that you are referring to here. You and Shaq is talking about some vague and abstract concept of corporate objectives.
American publicly traded and private equity companies are highly quantitative. They are driven by cash flow and return on investment (or return on equity). One might quibble about a strict definition of profit, but we are using the term profit as a proxy for cash flow.
PS- Some of what you are saying sounds like mimicking some of the horse manure repeated during the dot-com bubble of the 1990s. In the 2000s, tech entrepreneurs realized they had to have a business idea that could eventually be monetized (cash flow).
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Fuuuckkkk! Antifa dogs! What is the world coming to?
Hey, he could be. Or, he could be like every other member of his family and fairly right-wing MAGAs. Maybe he's Groyper? Maybe he's a communist?
The reality is that NOBODY knows for sure. The police haven't said anything about it, but that hasn't stopped folks from claiming he's left or right. A lot of stuff online is hearsay, innuendo or just made up bullshit. Officially, they say he isn't involved with any left-wing groups.
Also, does anyone think the alleged text messages between the shooter and his roommate/trans lover sound...well....odd? I mean, they don't really sound like their written by a 22 year old in this day and age. I don't want to jump on conspiracy theories, but it just sounds so....unbelievable...
I'm going with a leftist dog who requires housing and food assistance.
Yes, you did a good job googling something.Shaq, you should be banned from discussing economics and finance. You can't learn all this stuff from reading headlines.
The chart posted by CNN notes
"Quarter-over-quarter change in real GDP, annualized"
Nominal GDP the total dollars of the economy is adjusted by the "GDP deflator" to determine Real GDP. In layman's terms, Real GDP is adjusted for inflation.
GDP deflator - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I'm guessing CNN didn't keep reciting the term Real GDP in the article because they expected the audience to assume that.
Take a look at this admissions 2026 deadline for the University of Toronto economics programs.
But I guess you conveniently overlooked my comment about imports in the process.
If imports fall sharply, which they most likely did due to Trump's tariffs, then it caused both inflation and artificially inflated real GDP numbers.
Also regarding inflation itself, wasn't there a controversy earlier in the year about it, especially surrounding CPI data collection?
Also what about unemployment increases, which also reduce GDP?
So nothing that comes out of the Trump administration can actually be trusted.
The Real GDP increase reported is most likely artificial and just on paper and does not actually show that the US is doing well economically.
Just ask the people and go read about it on social media where everyone is saying they cannot find a job. lmao.
You said a lot.
The main point is inflation is not a factor as you stated.
The Trump tariff policy is an effort to drive down imports and spur domestic production and substitution. So your kind of criticizing this contributor to GDP when that is the plan. Buy less foreign goods.
If you go with a conspiracy over the economic numbers, then there's no point in discussing economic data beyond that.
By the way, you forgot the imported inventory contributor to 2nd quarter GDP. In the first quarter companies loaded up on imported inventories to get ahead of the tariffs. In the second quarter, the imported inventory was wound down. All that tells you some 1st quarter GDP activity was pulled into the 2nd quarter. It however doesn't mean the GDP activity didn't exist. Imported inventories were merely a short-term timing issue.
The 2nd quarter GDP was real. It's of course not a guarantee of future results. And timing issues are always a factor in economic data.
PS- I didn't have to Google shit. I posted it for you because if I simply tell you something is fact you simply dismiss it. Haven't you basically said that you don't believe my business experience unless I post my Linkedin page.
Who said inflation is not a factor?
I said inflation numbers cannot be trusted when it comes from the Trump administration for the reasons I already highlighted.
Which would make real GDP calculations inaccurate as well.
Also, just because imports went down, doesn't mean domestic production went up.
If production went up, unemployment would be down, but no, that is up too.
So no these numbers are likely fudged, or at the very least paint a false picture of good economic health.
Case in point:
Is that because he won the first season of Celebrity Apprentice?
As I said, if you think there is a conspiracy to fudge the numbers all your other arguments are really moot. Aren't they?
You're throwing spaghetti at us. How bout this reason? And how bout this reason?
You are not just questioning the numbers behind GDP you are inadvertently questioning the equation itself. Imports are subtracted out because they are added into Consumption and Inventories. Of course, foreign goods don't add to Gross Domestic Product. My explanation of imported inventories impact on GDP in Q2 and Q1 is actually universally accepted by economists. It's not disputed because that's how the GDP equation works. It works that way in Canada as well.
Per Google AI:
In the first quarter of 2025, U.S. imports surged by $158.2 billion to $1 trillion, largely due to businesses stocking up on goods to avoid anticipated tariffs, a move that caused the U.S. GDP to shrink for the first time since the pandemic and also led to strong growth in global merchandise trade volumes, particularly in North America.
PS- At the release of Q1 GDP, I avoided posting that the rise in imports to build-up inventories was a timing issue. There's no point in arguing with people who deeply wanted to believe that Q1 GDP was really bad. Strangely, when the Canadian economy just bumps along you have nothing to say. But hey, the Canadian numbers could be wrong. No reason to believe them.
I'm looking forward to seeing photos of those engraved bullets. I can hardly write legibly lengthwise on a half inch copper plumbing pipe to know what it is serving. Least of all "engraving" anything on it.
This had to be addressed separately.
The unemployment rate is an important number but it is not a perfect number for measuring economic activity. The nonfarm payrolls is a far better measure of economic activity. It obviously tells you the net increase or decrease in payrolls.
Through August 31, the U.S. economy has not lost jobs in 2025. Again, discussing future results is not the discussion.
United States Non Farm Payrolls
Non Farm Payrolls in the United States increased by 22 thousand in August of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Non Farm Payrolls - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic calendar, survey...
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Per Google AI:
No single economic indicator can provide a complete picture of economic activity, but
nonfarm payrolls (NFP) are often considered one of the best available because they are released monthly and reflect trends in employment, wages, and hours.
You should hire a really good tattoo artist to deal with your pipe.
Given the Trump administrations actions over the last 9 months can you blame anyone for doubting numbers released by these guys?
Especially in light of tariffs? The skepticism is warranted.
And if imports have dwindled because of stocking up in Q1, my original comment was still right that the a reduction in imports in Q2 show an increase in real GDP numbers. We know how the equation works.
However my conclusion that this number does not reflect real economic health, is also accurate.
Increasing unemployment (for which BLS Chief got fired lol, another one of those "shoot the messenger" actions by Trump), mass layoffs, inflation due to tariffs - you couldn't possibly believe that that the real GDP numbers are an accurate reflection of economic health.
I just provided an example of Starbucks closing up shop and laying off people.This had to be addressed separately.
The unemployment rate is an important number but it is not a perfect number for measuring economic activity. The nonfarm payrolls is a far better measure of economic activity. It obviously tells you the net increase or decrease in payrolls.
Through August 31, the U.S. economy has not lost jobs in 2025. Again, discussing future results is not the discussion.
United States Non Farm Payrolls
Non Farm Payrolls in the United States increased by 22 thousand in August of 2025. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Non Farm Payrolls - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic calendar, survey...
Per Google AI:
No single economic indicator can provide a complete picture of economic activity, but
nonfarm payrolls (NFP) are often considered one of the best available because they are released monthly and reflect trends in employment, wages, and hours.
And even per NFP it doesn't sound that great either.
Per Google AI based on NFP:
You should hire a really good tattoo artist to deal with your pipe.
A young man truly in love with his girlfriend decided to have her name tattooed on his penis. Her name was Wendy, and the tattoo was done while the penis was erect, so when it was not erect all you could see was W Y. Shortly after the couple was married they were honeymooning in Jamaica the man was in a bathroom in Jamaica, and standing next to him was a Jamaican man who also had a W Y on his penis. The American said to him "Oh is your girl named Wendy too?" The Jamaican replied, "No mister that says 'Welcome to Jamaica Have a Nice Day'."
You seem determined to discuss future economic growth. You will argue the second half of 2025 and part of 2026 are going to be bad. Essentially, that is changing the subject of what happened in the first half of 2025.
I have ridden more economic cycles than I care to admit. I've been through all the doom and gloom in each cycle. I am more interested in where the U.S. economy is in 2027/2028.
