My updated Sugar dating progresses

[Leimonis]

I’ve just finished blowing through my credits on sugardaddy.ca
I am not impressed. Suspiciously young and good looking women not responding to messages… very fake vibe altogether. Felt like a trap.
I thought seeking was bad but this is another level

 

[superman2006]

I’ve just finished blowing through my credits on sugardaddy.ca
I am not impressed. Suspiciously young and good looking women not responding to messages… very fake vibe altogether. Felt like a trap.
I thought seeking was bad but this is another level

Looks like seeking is probably the best option

 

[Leimonis]

Looks like seeking is probably the best option

a bunch of girls are on both sites anyway. At least on seeking you pay once and you don't feel like being little by little defrauded for credits. It's death by a thousand cuts lol.

edit - I dunno maybe I should have bought a few hundred bucks worth of credits then they would be cheaper and contacting one woman would only be $3 or so in which case maybe it’d be worth it.
I was just trying to see if this is a scam like Ashley Madison and I think at least partially it may be

 

[superman2006]

a bunch of girls are on both sites anyway. At least on seeking you pay once and you don't feel like being little by little defrauded for credits. It's death by a thousand cuts lol.

edit - I dunno maybe I should have bought a few hundred bucks worth of credits then they would be cheaper and contacting one woman would only be $3 or so in which case maybe it’d be worth it.
I was just trying to see if this is a scam like Ashley Madison and I think at least partially it may be

What’s the latest ppm prices or average allowance now? I am out the game for too long

 

[GeeBee]

I’ve just finished blowing through my credits on sugardaddy.ca
I am not impressed. Suspiciously young and good looking women not responding to messages… very fake vibe altogether. Felt like a trap.
I thought seeking was bad but this is another level

Has anyone else had this experience with the sites that use a credit system? The time you'll get one or two replies/messages from actual women is when you’re getting low on credits and need to buy more? It seems to be the same formula as secret benefits, designed to separate you from as much cash as possible but somehow keep you coming back.

It seems to me that actual success at finding sugar babe that you might want to hang onto for a while is bad for their business model.

 

[speakercontrols]

I usually get opening offers from of $300, $350, $400-ish. I usually counter with $500 which is competitive with SP rates. They are usually QUITE happy with this & generally don't bother answering your messages.

Man, one offered a PPM of $200 I quickly corrected her and what the real rates are...she was just great!

 

[speakercontrols]

Why would you counter them? Or offer more? Stick to what she wants and add into it like going out more or buying her gifts more. I've been with some who's PPM was between $100-350 and I don't counter back offering $400 or $500 when I'll factor the stuff I said on top of what they want. Now if down the road the ones who I seen for like $100 or $200 wanted $400 then sure, but I wouldn't counter with $400 right off the bat incase later on it changes to $500 or $600. I don't expose my budget so it gets close to the max I'd fork out. Most I seen weren't worth repeating after a few times but if they were I personally wouldn't have countered with more in the event things ended sooner than later based on my budget.

Why the fuck would I want to buy a SB gifts? I really like the ones I see of course but that's not my mindset. The only person I buy gifts and flowers for is my wife. I have some boundaries. I've no idea exactly where but they're there. Somewhere.

I don't do dinners, I don't do dates, I bring Tim's and muffins or they make me tea and breakfast/lunch sometimes. That's about it.

I pay that because for a few hours that's the equitable market rate. Shit, given 2 hours with a SP is $600 to $800-ish, it's still arguable lower. I'm not here to exploit some poor girl who doesn't know otherwise. It's a small world & I believe in Karma.

 

[superman2006]

Why the fuck would I want to buy a SB gifts? I really like the ones I see of course but that's not my mindset. The only person I buy gifts and flowers for is my wife. I have some boundaries. I've no idea exactly where but they're there. Somewhere.

I don't do dinners, I don't do dates, I bring Tim's and muffins or they make me tea and breakfast/lunch sometimes. That's about it.

I pay that because for a few hours that's the equitable market rate. Shit, given 2 hours with a SP is $600 to $800-ish, it's still arguable lower. I'm not here to exploit some poor girl who doesn't know otherwise. It's a small world & I believe in Karma.

I thought the fun part about SBs is the build up phases, if I just want to have sex I’d just go see a SP

 

[Leimonis]

Bit of both. If you have pics (face ones preferably), full profile filled out and are ready to go, they won't take long finding you. That said, I am proactive in messaging the ones I find super attractive (the 9s and 10s) because you know ABC (always be closing). It's a numbers game, like any sale. I always share my secret photos with the ones I approach. It encourages them to reciprocate.

Yeah, the video thing has saved me a few times. I joke with my buddy that there are a lot of Batman villains on the site (Two Face) lol I don't know how women do it (filters, photoshop, AI ??!!) but I have seen photos and then the video and you would swear they are two completely different people.

p.s. love your footer quote. Stealing that for sure.

I’m reading up on sugardaddy.ca on Reddit and here’s what I found about their “let me be your secret” verification video - apparently girls are not made aware that it’s visible to us that’s why they all look disheveled like hobos!

 

[superman2006]

I just got back on seeking and have already seen 3-4 similar faces from the SP world lol

 

[Leimonis]

There's a few weird ones on SB also, but if they don't know all the men see it that kinda makes sense and is hilarious. I've seen odd ones XD!

Just watching those verification videos made me feel like I haven’t totally wasted money on that site.
9 times out of ten it’s like portal to hell and it feels good that i haven’t wasted hours meeting them

 

[speakercontrols]

I thought the fun part about SBs is the build up phases, if I just want to have sex I’d just go see a SP

For me the build up is the coffee/tea/breakfast/lunch/chat/meaning of life discussions before the sex. It's not something a SP would tolerate.

 

[superman2006]

another question- how can you tell if the SB is a SP in disguise?

 

[superman2006]

When you talk with a SB you can ask her if she wants to keep things mono or poly so you're both on the same page. If she leans towards poly it's very similar to a SP cause she might want more than 1 or 2 daddies. There's some on LL who I've seen on a site mostly women from Barrie or Sudbury. Ones who generally prefer PPM are probably very similar to SPs. You'd have to ask her if she wants mono/exclusive so she's not seeing anyone else and what her allowance is. Weekly/biweekly/monthly. And even if it's mono that's not to say she could lie and see others or is on dating apps looking for an actual relationship and overall not into you like that of course. Locally where I am I seen 2 online I know who are in relationships and were discreetly on the site most likely cheating on their bf to gain more money. A few are also in relationships already or married and their partners know they are on the site.

Thanks for the tips, I do see some familiar faces on SA and know they are in fact SPs.

 

[speakercontrols]

another question- how can you tell if the SB is a SP in disguise?

shrug…it matters why? There’s significant overlap and if they’re doing SB stuff, they're a SB

 

[superman2006]

shrug…it matters why? There’s significant overlap and if they’re doing SB stuff, there a SB

Duh if you know you know

 

[Liam011]

Duh if you know you know

I do a lot of both and I don't know. I've had SP turn into SB and I've been with SB that were pretty clearly SP in all but name.

So please enlighten us.

 

[GeeBee]

another question- how can you tell if the SB is a SP in disguise?

If she's willing to have a meet and greet where no money changes hands, other than you buying her a cup of coffee, she’s an SB. An escort isn’t going to do this. If she wants cash $$ for social dates she’s an escort.

The biggest difference is this:

With an escort the screening is one way, she’s in charge. With SB’s you get to screen each other.

 

[superman2006]

I do a lot of both and I don't know. I've had SP turn into SB and I've been with SB that were pretty clearly SP in all but name.

So please enlighten us.

Clearly you haven’t been in the game for long enough to tell the differences

 

[superman2006]

Yeah, I had one SB say she wanted a few hundred just to meet up for a coffee/meal and I passed cause it leans towards escort. I wasn't interested in just meeting up for the first time at her place either. The others I met generally we did coffee/meal and I didn't mind paying for the tab. Otherwise anything social later on is included in the PPM.

Yep. I just got quoted $200 for m&g fee and 600ppm lol. Instant pass