My updated Sugar dating progresses

[superman2006]

Why the fuck would I want to buy a SB gifts? I really like the ones I see of course but that's not my mindset. The only person I buy gifts and flowers for is my wife. I have some boundaries. I've no idea exactly where but they're there. Somewhere.

I don't do dinners, I don't do dates, I bring Tim's and muffins or they make me tea and breakfast/lunch sometimes. That's about it.

I pay that because for a few hours that's the equitable market rate. Shit, given 2 hours with a SP is $600 to $800-ish, it's still arguable lower. I'm not here to exploit some poor girl who doesn't know otherwise. It's a small world & I believe in Karma.

I thought the fun part about SBs is the build up phases, if I just want to have sex I’d just go see a SP

 

[Leimonis]

Bit of both. If you have pics (face ones preferably), full profile filled out and are ready to go, they won't take long finding you. That said, I am proactive in messaging the ones I find super attractive (the 9s and 10s) because you know ABC (always be closing). It's a numbers game, like any sale. I always share my secret photos with the ones I approach. It encourages them to reciprocate.

Yeah, the video thing has saved me a few times. I joke with my buddy that there are a lot of Batman villains on the site (Two Face) lol I don't know how women do it (filters, photoshop, AI ??!!) but I have seen photos and then the video and you would swear they are two completely different people.

p.s. love your footer quote. Stealing that for sure.

I’m reading up on sugardaddy.ca on Reddit and here’s what I found about their “let me be your secret” verification video - apparently girls are not made aware that it’s visible to us that’s why they all look disheveled like hobos!

 

[superman2006]

I just got back on seeking and have already seen 3-4 similar faces from the SP world lol

 

[Leimonis]

There's a few weird ones on SB also, but if they don't know all the men see it that kinda makes sense and is hilarious. I've seen odd ones XD!

Just watching those verification videos made me feel like I haven’t totally wasted money on that site.
9 times out of ten it’s like portal to hell and it feels good that i haven’t wasted hours meeting them

 

[superman2006]

another question- how can you tell if the SB is a SP in disguise?

 

[superman2006]

When you talk with a SB you can ask her if she wants to keep things mono or poly so you're both on the same page. If she leans towards poly it's very similar to a SP cause she might want more than 1 or 2 daddies. There's some on LL who I've seen on a site mostly women from Barrie or Sudbury. Ones who generally prefer PPM are probably very similar to SPs. You'd have to ask her if she wants mono/exclusive so she's not seeing anyone else and what her allowance is. Weekly/biweekly/monthly. And even if it's mono that's not to say she could lie and see others or is on dating apps looking for an actual relationship and overall not into you like that of course. Locally where I am I seen 2 online I know who are in relationships and were discreetly on the site most likely cheating on their bf to gain more money. A few are also in relationships already or married and their partners know they are on the site.

Thanks for the tips, I do see some familiar faces on SA and know they are in fact SPs.

 

[superman2006]

shrug…it matters why? There’s significant overlap and if they’re doing SB stuff, there a SB

Duh if you know you know

 

[Liam011]

Duh if you know you know

I do a lot of both and I don't know. I've had SP turn into SB and I've been with SB that were pretty clearly SP in all but name.

So please enlighten us.

 

[GeeBee]

another question- how can you tell if the SB is a SP in disguise?

If she's willing to have a meet and greet where no money changes hands, other than you buying her a cup of coffee, she’s an SB. An escort isn’t going to do this. If she wants cash $$ for social dates she’s an escort.

The biggest difference is this:

With an escort the screening is one way, she’s in charge. With SB’s you get to screen each other.

 

[superman2006]

I do a lot of both and I don't know. I've had SP turn into SB and I've been with SB that were pretty clearly SP in all but name.

So please enlighten us.

Clearly you haven’t been in the game for long enough to tell the differences

 

[superman2006]

Yeah, I had one SB say she wanted a few hundred just to meet up for a coffee/meal and I passed cause it leans towards escort. I wasn't interested in just meeting up for the first time at her place either. The others I met generally we did coffee/meal and I didn't mind paying for the tab. Otherwise anything social later on is included in the PPM.

Yep. I just got quoted $200 for m&g fee and 600ppm lol. Instant pass

 

[superman2006]

You can skip the meet & greet if you just wanna get it on and hangout at their place or yours (I've done this at times) and see how long the PPM includes, but last thing I wanna do is drop $300 or more and be around someone for like 4 hours who I don't jive with or the intimacy lacks chemistry. Usually over text/chat you can get a feel about the vibe, so it depends on the physical connection. People do lie or say things they are into over text then in person don't live up to it. I've experienced that in the dating world too. Seeing a SP for a HH and seeing how that goes and going back to seeing her again works a lot better at times. If you're bunny hopping seeing 2 or 3 SBs in a month and just not enjoying the experience I find that adds up more than a SP hopping. Both have their hit and miss lol.

I never skip m&g and I think what separates SB from SP is the chemistry connection before the deed. But now there are too many so called SB just want to get the deed done and collect $$$.

 

[superman2006]

Yeah that's where you have to be careful. She could take the funds for 3 or 4 hours then say after you finishing once or maybe twice that she's tired or has a headache and you take a huge L there compared to seeing a SP for HH or H. She might not wanna like cuddle up for a bit and watch something with you or whatever else. In a situation like that I'd wanna give funds afterwards so if the timeframe is less you should be able to negotiate, but it all depends on their attitude too. I haven't experienced that, but I have heard a few stories especially if funds were given first.

here’s my routine - I take the girl out for bar hopping and we make out , then we watch a movie at her or my places, making out then proceeded with the deeds. I usually hand her the cash just before we get in bed.

 

[superman2006]

When it's a SB I always give funds just before her or I are leaving whoever's place. This way if the agreement is hangout each time for a few hours and things are turning into a hour or less I'd bring up the PPM should be less then cause the timeframe changed. Allowance should also be given at the end so if it's weekly give it end of the week. Most jobs don't pay you ahead of time. You could in terms of an allowance give a little bit ahead of time as a gesture and the remaining balance after similar to giving someone a small tip that generally does go a long way.

I prefer ppm before getting into a weekly allowance, btw some chick just asked for 1k/ppm saying she’s so hot so she’s worth it

 

[Liam011]

Clearly you haven’t been in the game for long enough to tell the differences

Whatever...

 

[RobI]

I'm having the same experience with SB and it's looks like a scam. I have the girls the I liked message me and after unlocking and replying. I would get general responses. a little bit after the chat goes dead. any luck with meeting any of the girls? I have my doubts thinking it's bots

Yeah, that's the whole problem with Secret Benefits (and the other sites they own). You must buy credits to read messages, view private photos, etc. All the sites probably inflate the numbers of members a bit, but tricking guys into spending money to read bot messages is just evil.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/1i4tzu3 https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/126skvi
I'd rather stick with Seeking or SDM just because there's no incentive for them to send out a bunch of fake messages. SDM also charges the ladies to join as well so there's an incentive for them to hook-up with guys since it's costing them money to be on the site (that's why you see profiles saying "I don't have a paid account, send me your phone number")

 

[MuffDiver]

I’ve just finished blowing through my credits on sugardaddy.ca
I am not impressed. Suspiciously young and good looking women not responding to messages… very fake vibe altogether. Felt like a trap.
I thought seeking was bad but this is another level

I'm questioning this site too, for the same reasons. The short "verified" video is a credits saver. Many huge looks differences between the pictures and the video. Likely deleting my account once my remaining 70 credits get used.

 

[Liam011]

Shrug - I'm quite happy with SugarDaddy. Of course with my profile, most self-filter out and don't message me. For those 'that do', based on their profile I can determine if it's an auto-send or not. Most of the messages ARE only 1-2 responses but I assume it's because they gave 10 messages on the go and their closing in on the guy they've been talking with for the last few days.

Likewise. My success ratio on that site is pretty high. But I like milfs and 30-40 yr old divorcees. You guys can keep the vacuous 20 year olds and 25 yr old Insta model types.

 

[Leimonis]

Likewise. My success ratio on that site is pretty high. But I like milfs and 30-40 yr old divorcees. You guys can keep the vacuous 20 year olds and 25 yr old Insta model types.

as some stand up comedian said (I am paraphrasing): I have a recipe how to always get laid when you are going out. The secret is: go to a bar just prior to 2am when everyone is already drunk and approach the ugliest fattest woman sitting alone at the bar. Ideally if she is limping or missing a leg.

 

[Liam011]

as some stand up comedian said (I am paraphrasing): I have a recipe how to always get laid when you are going out. The secret is: go to a bar just prior to 2am when everyone is already drunk and approach the ugliest fattest woman sitting alone at the bar. Ideally if she is limping or missing a leg.

Not sure what your point is ? I like what I like. I'm in my 50s. I don't like fucking 20 year olds because it makes me feel like a pedo.
Most of my life I've preferred women in their 30s, even when I was younger than that.
If that is the equivalent of fucking a one legged bbw in your opinion so be it.