outcall issues - condo guard

[Brookstone]

So what he tells his boss?
If his boss has any brains, he'll know what a incapable moron he is and reprimand him under the "You have no right to assume a girl is an escort and ask for her business card, regardless of what she looks like?" mentality. You don't have to make up a story(niece, interior designer..) or explain who she is beyond a "visitor" bc it doesnt matter who she is; he already fucked up and breached his job description.
A guard's job isn't to question her beyond general visiting info once he knows you've approved their arrival.

Exactly my point!
OP does not have to talke to the guard on his own, and he absolutely should not let this go. Have you all lived in a condo before? You're basically paying this guy's wage.
Issues like this, you go straight to management. There is no excuse for this.

 

[blackrock13]

Exactly my point!
OP does not have to talke to the guard on his own, and he absolutely should not let this go. Have you all lived in a condo before? You're basically paying this guy's wage.
Issues like this, you go straight to management. There is no excuse for this.

I have lived in a few condos and the concierge can be really helpful, but if you treat him too harshly or as you suggest, just because 'you pay his salary', you might get more the same from the other staff or the new concierge as the word gets around with them and the rest of the residents, that you're a jerk.

 

[Terminator2000]

Simple.

go to the superintendent and tell him you want to express you gratitude for maintaining such a lovely building and you would like to give him some fresh fettucini or a beautiful cake for his wife. and ask him to send his wife up to your apartment to fetch the gift.

when the superintendent's wife passes the condo guard. and he asks for a good time. that'll be the last day of his job.

 

[afterhours]

thanks to everyome who responded!

I went and talked to the management and they assured me that the guy will not be working in the building after this weekend. Apparently there were other complaints. (Although I am pretty sure that I am the only outcall junkie in my building, because phone girls at major agencies begin calling me by name after I give them my address. So it seems the other complainants were the civvies.)

So I don't need to change my habits after all and the debauchery will continue

 

[supernatural]

Honestly I wouldn't do anything.

Don't get me wrong, what he's doing is both disrespectful and a pain in the ass, but at least right now he's a known quantity, and unless you are having ladies over every other day its probably a fairly inconsistent nuissance.

If the guy can't keep his mouth shut to the lady in question on the spot its probably fairly safe to assume he's already blabbed to others people in your building (not knowing your building and how big the front desk is, but maybe his partner, or the guy who switches him out, his supervisor, maybe another tenant he's buddies with...ect), so really the damage there is probably done.

If he's going to be that brazen about doing what he's doing he probably doesn't really care about his job either, so he's got very little to lose. While he may get fired if you complain, its more likely he'll get a reprimand as unless anyone can prove he explicity stated his intentions it'll probably be a one strike and your out the door. If he hasn't already said anything to his boss or others, you can be damned sure he's going to point out to anyone that will listen to him that the guy in ______ is paying for sex.... except it will come out more like "that guy HAS to pay for sex, what a loser". Maybe next time you have company he's make a point of saying something like "let me ESCORT (shouted) you to the elevator so you can go up and see Mr. _____________ (shouted). Suddenly a fairly known quantity is an embarassed and pissed off guy with a chip on his shoulder, and you don't really know what he's capable of... maybe he hands out flyers about you if he gets canned?

I'm not saying that you should live in fear of this guy, but really IMO the worst of the damage is done. If he starts pushing it futher, then yeah, you've kinda got nothing to lose at that point, but in the mean time outcalls are legal and he's just a nuissance.

Alternatively, I'd buddy up to him, fess up and say the ladies are complaining and you don't want to be blacklisted cause he knows how hot these girls are. If you're not threatening him and treating him like a dude and not an underling (and you just know most concierges probably think condo people are self entitled dicks) he'll feel like he's the boss a bit and probably feel like he's doing you a favour.

 

[supernatural]

Oops, you beat me by a minute, lol.

Oh well, best of luck on the situation.

 

[afterhours]

Interestingly, before I went to speak to the management, I had thoughts about this incident maybe being a sign that I need to hobby less and maybe find a civilian girl.

What a lunacy that was!

 

[my name Peggy]

wow thankgod he didn't listen to @supernatural that was the most longwinded way to give bad advice lols ...why in gods name would u "buddy" up to a guy and reveal your private affairs with a dummy who was threatening his privacy and harassing random girls? You don't; you get his dumb ass fired, case in point ^^^ lol

 

[Damondean]

wow thankgod he didn't listen to @supernatural that was the most longwinded way to give bad advice lols ...why in gods name would u "buddy" up to a guy and reveal your private affairs with a dummy who was threatening his privacy and harassing random girls? You don't; you get his dumb ass fired, case in point ^^^ lol

Right on! Just tell his boss that you do not wish to have your visitors bothered whether they be female, male, TGs, martians or from Venus or whatever. It is your home and you can have anyone visit that you want.

 

[supernatural]

wow thankgod he didn't listen to @supernatural that was the most longwinded way to give bad advice lols ...why in gods name would u "buddy" up to a guy and reveal your private affairs with a dummy who was threatening his privacy and harassing random girls? You don't; you get his dumb ass fired, case in point ^^^ lol

I didn't mean really buddy up to the guy, but clearly the concierge knew what was going on already so its not like you're really revealing anything to him. I've just always found that if you treat someone like a person instead of with disdain you generally get further. If the guy thought he was doing you a favour, because what guy doens't like nail hot chicks, then maybe he'd knock it off without the potential scene.

I'm glad it worked out for the OP, but who's to say this guy isn't going to start hanging around the front of his building now screaming that he nails hookers and got him fired for what he thought was only doing his job to question "suspicious" people? Anyone who see's the scene will know something happened cause they'll wonder what pissed off the fired concierge so much and why is he standing out front handing out flyers or something...?

Not saying he played it wrong in the end, he just asked for suggestions and I offered two possiblities.

 

[AllishaMyst]

Since when is it a crime to have women visit you sp or not. Are you having sex for money? Who knows? iIt can only be an assumption...not fact. Know one knows who she is or what she doing there. The legal issue will be with the guard and the trouble he will be in. Do you think he will ever be hired for same position again...not. Everybody is so afraid to being caught! Caught doing what? Spending time with a beautiful woman that "yes " you paid for company. Unless they are taping you in your condo the problem lies with the guard not you. High sex drive? Maybe ....so what! If anyone is speaking of who visits and who doesnt you are protected and the informant is not!! Stand tall! Unless your married of course then you are screwed by your wife not the building management. He will be arrested after being fired for hanging out infront of building causing a scene. So what your neighbors know..they arnt getting layed and would probably be jealous. Yes ... I just ranted... but it's so silly for a single man to worry about something so silly that knowone can do anything about. Have fun and enjoiy and don't let anyone or anything get in your way of that.

 

[my name Peggy]

@ Supernatural, well when you say "Alternatively, I'd buddy up to him" I interpreted that to be mean exactly as such...and yes of course knew, but that drives the point further; It doesn't matter what he "knows", it's literally his business to keep his mouth shout, so yes Afterhours would be "revealing" something he never should have been put in the position to disclose in the first place.

 

[Mervyn]

Find a transvestite that looks nice, just pay them to walk to you apartment and back again, make sure he has a business card.

Now when he asks for a card, the transvestite can give him one

 

[basketcase]

How did the SP handle it?
I would speak to the management office, and complain that you were insulted by how the security guard treated your guest, or something to that effect.
...

I think that is the best kind of wording. Maybe include the word harass.

You are entitled to have guests as you see fit, even if it is for 1 hour at a time.

 

[andreandi]

thanks to everyome who responded!

I went and talked to the management and they assured me that the guy will not be working in the building after this weekend. Apparently there were other complaints. (Although I am pretty sure that I am the only outcall junkie in my building, because phone girls at major agencies begin calling me by name after I give them my address. So it seems the other complainants were the civvies.)

So I don't need to change my habits after all and the debauchery will continue

Thats good! Im glad you talked to the head guy. It isnt any of the gaurds concern who she is, as long as you are waiting for a guest, all he needs to do is check with you and thats it. Its none of his business whether its an sp, a family member, a friend, a business contact.. NONE of his business! What he said to her was very cruel.. If I were the girl myself I would complain honestly. Im not an SP but I wouldnt feel comfortable with that at all/ Im planning on getting a condo soon, I hope I wont be bothered at 3am as why I always get home late hah.

 

[HOF]

thanks to everyome who responded!

I went and talked to the management and they assured me that the guy will not be working in the building after this weekend. Apparently there were other complaints. (Although I am pretty sure that I am the only outcall junkie in my building, because phone girls at major agencies begin calling me by name after I give them my address. So it seems the other complainants were the civvies

So I don't need to change my habits after all and the debauchery will continue

Afterhours glad to hear this worked out and as I read the thread I figured the "rental cop" would be the type to accost tenants, owners and guests.

Perfect clip: 7:50 mark "I think we both know she is not my neice

If your condo had a sign in sheet that may resolve concerns. (Visiting-JohnDoe or suite 0000) just a suggestion. The "rental cop" should politely greet or nod (hello) and be available if your guest requires assistance. To my knowledge general lobby areas in condos have video cameras either in plain view or hidden for security. As long as your guest isn't disturbing the peace, there is no reason to be questioned or accosted.

The only piece that I'd do differently is request the presence of the "rental cop" at the meeting, and if the "rental cop" is from an outside service request a supervisor from their company present. Never raise your voice, just say it straight up, it's none of your business who I entertain.

Carry on the debauchery!

 

[middleweight]

Get him fired. He shouldn't have disrespected you or your guest.

 

[totovan]

send me his 411 and forget about it

 

[Moraff]

I didn't mean really buddy up to the guy, but clearly the concierge knew what was going on already so its not like you're really revealing anything to him. I've just always found that if you treat someone like a person instead of with disdain you generally get further.

Someone who abuses his position like that only deserves disdain, not encouragement.

If the guy thought he was doing you a favour, because what guy doens't like nail hot chicks, then maybe he'd knock it off without the potential scene.

I'm sorry, if I read the OP's post correctly he asked the OP's guest for her business card because he figured she was an escort. How can this possibly be interpreted that the guard was doing the OP a favour?

I'm glad it worked out for the OP, but who's to say this guy isn't going to start hanging around the front of his building now screaming that he nails hookers and got him fired for what he thought was only doing his job to question "suspicious" people? Anyone who see's the scene will know something happened cause they'll wonder what pissed off the fired concierge so much and why is he standing out front handing out flyers or something...?

So your answer to solving the problem is to do nothing because it might turn out badly..... Did you get bullied all through your life so far? I'm sorry, but the "just keep your head down and hope for it to go away" is rarely a good plan.

Not saying he played it wrong in the end, he just asked for suggestions and I offered two possiblities.

IMO fairly horrible "possibilities"

 

[Moraff]

If your condo had a sign in sheet that may resolve concerns. (Visiting-JohnDoe or suite 0000) just a suggestion. The "rental cop" should politely greet or nod (hello) and be available if your guest requires assistance. To my knowledge general lobby areas in condos have video cameras either in plain view or hidden for security. As long as your guest isn't disturbing the peace, there is no reason to be questioned or accosted.

I would not live in a place that had a "sign-in sheet" for my guests. Checking with me as to whether I was expecting a guest or not would be the limit I would accept in a security check-point. It is none of their business who my guests might be or how long they stay.