You've got issues. Canada has one of the most peaceful and benign histories of any nation on earth. If you see badness throughout Canada's past, you must see badness everywhere. I feel horribly sorry for you if you look at an amazing country like Canada and see only the bad bits. You should get to know cutebald - he has a similar negative outlook on life.
Pakistani Canadians
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Lol !! No one is ready to even trust the present Government in that unfortunate Country! They are so corrupt that the word corrupt feels small for them! Less said the better.i agree ..it's an amazing country....on the other hand you seem to prefer to remain in denial about anything that might be a speed bump in your perfect view of the world
Between 1890 and 1996, over 50,000 aboriginal children died in the Indian residential schools across Canada mostly because of the Roman Catholic church, which established and ran over two-thirds of these “schools”. Many of these children died from beatings, tortures, being deliberately exposed to deadly diseases and not helped, and other deliberate homicidal actions.
“Not one person has ever been brought to trial for the death of any of these children, and the Catholic church refuses to say where these children or buried or how they died.
“This week, the Pope, Joseph Ratzinger, will be issuing a so-called “apology” for the harm caused in these Indian residential schools. We do not accept his apology, for genocide and mass murder cannot be apologized for, or made better with words.
Funny, our buddy in ottawa seemed to think there was a problem of some degreee of seriousness:
June 11. 2008
Text of Harper's residential schools apology
THE CANADIAN PRESS
June 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM EDT
OTTAWA — Text of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's residential schools apology Wednesday:
Mr. Speaker, I stand before you today to offer an apology to former students of Indian residential schools.
The treatment of children in Indian residential schools is a sad chapter in our history.
In the 1870's, the federal government, partly in order to meet its obligation to educate aboriginal children, began to play a role in the development and administration of these schools.
Two primary objectives of the residential schools system were to remove and isolate children from the influence of their homes, families, traditions and cultures, and to assimilate them into the dominant culture.
These objectives were based on the assumption aboriginal cultures and spiritual beliefs were inferior and unequal. indeed, some sought, as it was infamously said, “to kill the Indian in the child.” Today, we recognize that this policy of assimilation was wrong, has caused great harm, and has no place in our country.
Most schools were operated as ‘joint ventures' with Anglican, catholic, Presbyterian or united churches.
The government of Canada built an educational system in which very young children were often forcibly removed from their homes, often taken far from their communities.
Many were inadequately fed, clothed and housed. all were deprived of the care and nurturing of their parents, grandparents and communities.
First Nations, Inuit and Metis languages and cultural practices were prohibited in these schools.
Tragically, some of these children died while attending residential schools and others never returned home.
The government now recognizes that the consequences of the Indian residential schools policy were profoundly negative and that this policy has had a lasting and damaging impact on aboriginal culture, heritage and language.
While some former students have spoken positively about their experiences at residential schools – these stories are far overshadowed by tragic accounts of the emotional, physical and sexual abuse and neglect of helpless children and their separation from powerless families and communities.
The legacy of Indian residential schools has contributed to social problems that continue to exist in many communities today.
It has taken extraordinary courage for the thousands of survivors that have come forward to speak publicly about the abuse they suffered.
It is a testament to their resilience as individuals and to the strength of their cultures. regrettably, many former students are not with us today and died never having received a full apology from the government of Canada.
The government recognizes that the absence of an apology has been an impediment to healing and reconciliation.
Therefore, on behalf of the government of Canada and all Canadians, I stand before you, in this chamber so central to our life as a country, to apologize to aboriginal peoples for Canada's role in the Indian residential schools system.
To the approximately 80,000 living former students, and all family members and communities, the government of Canada now recognizes that it was wrong to forcibly remove children from their homes and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that it was wrong to separate children from rich and vibrant cultures and traditions, that it created a void in many lives and communities, and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that, in separating children from their families, we undermined the ability of many to adequately parent their own children and sowed the seeds for generations to follow and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that, far too often, these institutions gave rise to abuse or neglect and were inadequately controlled, and we apologize for failing to protect you.
Not only did you suffer these abuses as children, but as you became parents, you were powerless to protect your own children from suffering the same experience, and for this we are sorry.
The burden of this experience has been on your shoulders for far too long. the burden is properly ours as a government, and as a country.
There is no place in Canada for the attitudes that inspired the indian residential schools system to ever again prevail.
You have been working on recovering from this experience for a long time and in a very real sense, we are now joining you on this journey.
The government of Canada sincerely apologizes and asks the forgiveness of the aboriginal peoples of this country for failing them so profoundly. we are sorry.
In moving towards healing, reconciliation and resolution of the sad legacy of Indian residential schools, implementation of the Indian residential schools settlement agreement began on September 19, 2007.
Years of work by survivors, communities, and aboriginal organizations culminated in an agreement that gives us a new beginning and an opportunity to move forward together in partnership.
A cornerstone of the settlement agreement is the Indian residential schools truth and reconciliation commission. This commission presents a unique opportunity to educate all Canadians on the Indian residential schools system.
It will be a positive step in forging a new relationship between aboriginal peoples and other Canadians, a relationship based on the knowledge of our shared history, a respect for each other and a desire to move forward together with a renewed understanding that strong families, strong communities and vibrant cultures and traditions will contribute to a stronger Canada for all of us.
God bless all of you and God bless our land.
Between 1890 and 1996, over 50,000 aboriginal children died in the Indian residential schools across Canada mostly because of the Roman Catholic church, which established and ran over two-thirds of these “schools”. Many of these children died from beatings, tortures, being deliberately exposed to deadly diseases and not helped, and other deliberate homicidal actions.
“Not one person has ever been brought to trial for the death of any of these children, and the Catholic church refuses to say where these children or buried or how they died.
“This week, the Pope, Joseph Ratzinger, will be issuing a so-called “apology” for the harm caused in these Indian residential schools. We do not accept his apology, for genocide and mass murder cannot be apologized for, or made better with words.
Funny, our buddy in ottawa seemed to think there was a problem of some degreee of seriousness:
June 11. 2008
Text of Harper's residential schools apology
THE CANADIAN PRESS
June 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM EDT
OTTAWA — Text of Prime Minister Stephen Harper's residential schools apology Wednesday:
Mr. Speaker, I stand before you today to offer an apology to former students of Indian residential schools.
The treatment of children in Indian residential schools is a sad chapter in our history.
In the 1870's, the federal government, partly in order to meet its obligation to educate aboriginal children, began to play a role in the development and administration of these schools.
Two primary objectives of the residential schools system were to remove and isolate children from the influence of their homes, families, traditions and cultures, and to assimilate them into the dominant culture.
These objectives were based on the assumption aboriginal cultures and spiritual beliefs were inferior and unequal. indeed, some sought, as it was infamously said, “to kill the Indian in the child.” Today, we recognize that this policy of assimilation was wrong, has caused great harm, and has no place in our country.
Most schools were operated as ‘joint ventures' with Anglican, catholic, Presbyterian or united churches.
The government of Canada built an educational system in which very young children were often forcibly removed from their homes, often taken far from their communities.
Many were inadequately fed, clothed and housed. all were deprived of the care and nurturing of their parents, grandparents and communities.
First Nations, Inuit and Metis languages and cultural practices were prohibited in these schools.
Tragically, some of these children died while attending residential schools and others never returned home.
The government now recognizes that the consequences of the Indian residential schools policy were profoundly negative and that this policy has had a lasting and damaging impact on aboriginal culture, heritage and language.
While some former students have spoken positively about their experiences at residential schools – these stories are far overshadowed by tragic accounts of the emotional, physical and sexual abuse and neglect of helpless children and their separation from powerless families and communities.
The legacy of Indian residential schools has contributed to social problems that continue to exist in many communities today.
It has taken extraordinary courage for the thousands of survivors that have come forward to speak publicly about the abuse they suffered.
It is a testament to their resilience as individuals and to the strength of their cultures. regrettably, many former students are not with us today and died never having received a full apology from the government of Canada.
The government recognizes that the absence of an apology has been an impediment to healing and reconciliation.
Therefore, on behalf of the government of Canada and all Canadians, I stand before you, in this chamber so central to our life as a country, to apologize to aboriginal peoples for Canada's role in the Indian residential schools system.
To the approximately 80,000 living former students, and all family members and communities, the government of Canada now recognizes that it was wrong to forcibly remove children from their homes and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that it was wrong to separate children from rich and vibrant cultures and traditions, that it created a void in many lives and communities, and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that, in separating children from their families, we undermined the ability of many to adequately parent their own children and sowed the seeds for generations to follow and we apologize for having done this.
We now recognize that, far too often, these institutions gave rise to abuse or neglect and were inadequately controlled, and we apologize for failing to protect you.
Not only did you suffer these abuses as children, but as you became parents, you were powerless to protect your own children from suffering the same experience, and for this we are sorry.
The burden of this experience has been on your shoulders for far too long. the burden is properly ours as a government, and as a country.
There is no place in Canada for the attitudes that inspired the indian residential schools system to ever again prevail.
You have been working on recovering from this experience for a long time and in a very real sense, we are now joining you on this journey.
The government of Canada sincerely apologizes and asks the forgiveness of the aboriginal peoples of this country for failing them so profoundly. we are sorry.
In moving towards healing, reconciliation and resolution of the sad legacy of Indian residential schools, implementation of the Indian residential schools settlement agreement began on September 19, 2007.
Years of work by survivors, communities, and aboriginal organizations culminated in an agreement that gives us a new beginning and an opportunity to move forward together in partnership.
A cornerstone of the settlement agreement is the Indian residential schools truth and reconciliation commission. This commission presents a unique opportunity to educate all Canadians on the Indian residential schools system.
It will be a positive step in forging a new relationship between aboriginal peoples and other Canadians, a relationship based on the knowledge of our shared history, a respect for each other and a desire to move forward together with a renewed understanding that strong families, strong communities and vibrant cultures and traditions will contribute to a stronger Canada for all of us.
God bless all of you and God bless our land.
Actually, if you have the guts to watch the linked video and remain of the opinion that how we treated 22,000 Japanese Canadians was benign and not worthy of your acknowledgment, then clearly your the one with issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z88zRES6wcw
You really wouldn't want to view this little historical tidbit about ukrainian canadians interred in concentration camps during WW1
http://www.ukrcdn.com/2010/08/07/weekend-watching-canadas-forgotten-internment-camps/
In 1946, a full year after the end of the war and of the disclosure of the horrors of the holocaust, a poll conducted by the Canadian Institute of Public Opinion showed that 60% of Canadians approved of the exclusion of Jews as immigrants to Canada. And Oh yeah..you likely have not heard of the St. Louise with over 900 Jewish refugees aboard who were denied landing and entry to canada during ww2...that was a pretty benign act really.
Oh yeah...and the fact that the gov't of Canada formally apologized to Italian Canadians for wartime mistreatment including internment in concentration camps, would likely be considered a rather benign act not worthy of tarnishing our unblemished history:
Italian-Canadians Get Apology
SooNews Wire for SooNews.ca
Thursday, April 29, 2010, 12:52PM
House of Commons OKs Apology to Italian-Canadians – Tories Vote No
Martin, New Democrats Help Liberal MP Bill Pass
OTTAWA – MPs from all parties except the Conservatives passed a private member’s bill Wednesday calling for a formal apology for the internment of Italian-Canadians during the Second World War. The vote was 143-134.
The bill, by Quebec Liberal Massimo Pacetti would require the government to set up a commemoration and education fund, worth about $2.5 million
The legislation also calls on Canada Post to issue a commemorative stamp.
“Hundreds of Italian Canadians were designated enemy aliens, rounded up, sent to internment camps, had their property taken and bank accounts frozen,” Martin said. “An official apology and restitution are the right thing to do.”
During debate, Sudbury New Democrat MP Glenn Thibeault had acknowledged it was time to “recognize the injustice that was done to persons of Italian origin through their “enemy alien” designation and internment during the Second World War, and to provide for restitution and promote education on Italian-Canadian history.”
Canada has officially apologized for the internment of Japanese and Ukrainian Canadians.
Conservatives had claimed Italian-Canadians were satisfied by an informal apology issued more than 20 years by then Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. However, that apology was made in a banquet hall, not in Parliament.
Why would Steven Harper have apologized to Chinese Canadians for treatment during the 1920's with the seemingly benign Head Tax???:
OTTAWA, June 22 (Xinhua) -- Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper offered on Thursday a long-awaited formal apology to the Chinese community for the racist head tax levied more than 120 years ago.
"On behalf of the people and government of Canada, we offer a full apology to Chinese-Canadians for the head tax and express our deepest sorrow for the subsequent exclusion of Chinese immigrants," Harper said at the House of Commons with a few aged survivors of the head-tax era looking on from the gallery.
The head tax, ranging from 50 Canadian dollars to 500, was assessed on Chinese immigrants from 1885 until 1923 when immigration from China was banned entirely. Canada opened its doors again to Chinese immigrants in 1947.
Harper said his government will offer symbolic payments to living head tax payers and living spouses of deceased payers to give substantive meaning to the apology.
The government will also fund community projects, he said, without specifying on the amount of the money.
He acknowledged the contributions made by Chinese immigrants in building the country's national railway. Chinese immigrants were a crucial part of "the most important nation building exercise in Canadian history -- the construction of the Canadian pacific railway," he said, "the Canada we know today would not be what it is without the work of Chinese workers."
Chinese immigration to Canada began as early as 1858 and thousands labored at the Canada Pacific Railway construction from 1881 to 1885. However, the head tax was applied immediately on Chinese immigrants after the railway was completed in a bid to deter further immigration.
About 81,000 people are believed to have paid the tax, which amounted to about two years' wages. In many cases, Chinese immigrants were either unable to bring their families to Canada or were reduced to long-time poverty because of the heavy tax.
"The apology, (one that is) sincere and in depth, is very important because Chinese have been in this country for over 150 years," Gim Wong, a Canadian-born son of head tax payers and Second World War veteran, said on Thursday.
"They contribute so much to the country and building the CPR (Canadian Pacific Railway) alone -- when as many as 4,000 died out of 15,000 or 16,000 -- that is horrific," Wong said.
It is believed that today there are about 35 survivors, 360 of their widows and fewer than 4,000 of their children. Some of these people were present at Thursday's apology ceremony.
To witness the event, about 100 head tax payer survivors and their relatives arrived in Ottawa Wednesday by a train dubbed "Redress Express".
The journey, which started off last Friday from Vancouver, the starting point of the Pacific Railway, is an intentional symbolic act reminding people of the painful connections between early Chinese immigrants and the railway.
"The purpose of tying this in with a railway ride is to remind ourselves that the railroad is part of the mythology of Canada and helped build Canada," said Susan Eng, co-chair of the Coalition of Chinese Head Tax Payers, on Wednesday. "And we have to remember the Chinese workers who gave their lives to build this country."
To those posters who are dumping on Canada, please note that no country is perfect but Canada is closer to perfection than virtually any other country on this planet. It is with valid reasons we remind ourselves that "we are morally superior" and we "hold our country to a higher standard".
Thought the topic was about Pakistan Canadian's? When did it become Canadian Historical facts.....Only thing wrong with Canada...is the political Systems....LOL Not the immigrants. As for the natives thanks for pointing this out about genocide, my great grand father was,"Mi'kmaq"
Get back on topic lOL
Self justification and self righteous the act of narrow mindedness!!!!
This two is true, but one thing is countries do make mistakes........but that history ,we in the future now, people hate looking a truth, better to justify and blame and point the finger.... LOL
Get back on topic lOL
Self justification and self righteous the act of narrow mindedness!!!!
You may be correct in your assessment. I’m sure some visit yard sales and some may even be “porch people”
One of the "porch people" has moved off his porch and is now sitting on a chair on his front lawn. He is now one of the dreaded "LAWN PEOPLE". This is getting absolutely ridiculous.
All asian countries and immigrants are more or less same.
one one hand if in India still some people drink urine as tonic (as per google) or young women have to burn when husband die (as per google), on other hand in pakistan poeple have historical ties with Afghanistan (as per goole).
Fact is - that area was messed up and fucked up by USA during soviet war as per our beloved Hallary Clinton. Same type of stories are about China and so on... list is long... so enjoy this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM1BG_NnHaA
one one hand if in India still some people drink urine as tonic (as per google) or young women have to burn when husband die (as per google), on other hand in pakistan poeple have historical ties with Afghanistan (as per goole).
Fact is - that area was messed up and fucked up by USA during soviet war as per our beloved Hallary Clinton. Same type of stories are about China and so on... list is long... so enjoy this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM1BG_NnHaA
Yip. I suggest those who do not agree with this morsel of truth, find a better place to live. Oh wait......there aren't any!!
if you are a woman or a gay or a castrate, then yes
if you are a heterosexual male, then no
No. The next step is the old grannies of that persuasion start sitting on YOUR lawn. Wait till you find out how annoying that is.
The problem here is with you and those who yield to this "political correctness gone too far" bullshit. Just continue to say Merry Christmas and stand your ground. I do.
Yah thanks TIPS
I guess you must have missed the comment I made 2 posts down from the one you quoted.
Nice to see you haven't fallen for the 'political correctness' bullshit either.
Cheers
BTW....screw the porch people too lol
Yeah...the only thing he apparently continues to fall for is the delusional mass media myth aka the bible, that a virgin gave birth to some fucker who walked on water, healed people, rose from the dead, parted the waters,and that this dude was a local representative for some god who loves you but will punish and burn you in eternity if you dont follow his rules.
