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Putin slams "American Exceptionalism" in NYT Op-Ed

DTECanada

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The simple fact is that every country in the world looks out for its own interests first. EVERY ONE. The fact that everyone chooses to bash the US for doing what every other country in the world does means that all its critics are the ones who are practising exceptionalism. Critics of the US are only trying to make themselves feel better about their own country's selfishness. The US was an isolationist country until thrust into world wars. Meanwhile European countries colonised Africa, Asia, the Middle East and thrived off the rubber of Vietnam, the diamonds of Africa, sugar, etc. The Portuguese began extracting slaves from Africa for sugar plantations. The country that recieved the most slaves? Brazil. The only reason France was against the Iraq war was because they were making a ton of money off Saddam. The reason the US initially got involved in Vietnam was to appease France, who wanted to keep the colony for its rubber. Then things went haywire. All of these things are ignored because the US is everyone's punching bag. The US has had its blunders, no doubt, but so has EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Stop the selective criticism and realise that regardless of where you live, your country's government is looking out for itself before everything else. To heap all criticism on one country is pandering to your own misguided exceptionalism. It may make you feel better but one day you should just look in your own back yard for problems. Stop taking the easy road. There's plenty of blame to go around.
 

Aardvark154

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You never had any answer to this:

Why not wait a few more weeks to see if the Russian entry persuaded Japan to surrender, as it so obviously did?

It is not like the Americans didn't know when it was going to happen.
Because you never ever give your enemy breathing room when you have them on the ropes (I thought you said your wife was a CAF Officer?)
 

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The Soviets weren't going to invade the Japanese homeland, but they were going to steamroll all the territory Japan held on the mainland in short order.
"It may be pointless to try to establish which World War Two Axis aggressor, Germany or Japan, was the more brutal to the peoples it victimised. The Germans killed six million Jews and 20 million Russians (i.e. Soviet citizens); the Japanese slaughtered as many as 30 million Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians and Burmese, at least 23 million of them ethnic Chinese. Both nations looted the countries they conquered on a monumental scale, though Japan plundered more, over a longer period, than the Nazis. Both conquerors enslaved millions and exploited them as forced labourers—and, in the case of the Japanese, as (forced) prostitutes for front-line troops. If you were a Nazi prisoner of war from Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand orCanada (but not the Soviet Union) you faced a 4% chance of not surviving the war; (by comparison) the death rate for Allied POWs held by the Japanese was nearly 30%."

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes


Japanese soldiers shooting blindfolded Sikh prisoners. The photograph was found among Japanese records when British troops entered Singapore.
 

Smallcock

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Are there still people who believe it was wrong for the US to drop atomic bombs on the Japanese savages?

The nations of Japan and Germany were evil incarnate in time of war.

As for Putin's op-ed, it should rightfully make any Westerner who reads it want to vomit.
 

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Are there still people who believe it was wrong for the US to drop atomic bombs on the Japanese savages?
It was a crime against humanity by any definition. Also noted, how abhorrently racist and despicable you are.

I don't think that your views are compatible with Canadian values and I think our country would be better if you left.
 

Aardvark154

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It was a crime against humanity by any definition. Also noted, how abhorrently racist and despicable you are.

I don't think that your views are compatible with Canadian values and I think our country would be better if you left.
Hmm here I thought that Elizabeth II was our Queen and Stephen Harper the Prime Minister - I can clearly see I was mistaken it is obviously Fuji I King and Autocrat of all Toronto.
 

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To drag this thread back on track. Most of the criticism takes issue with 'Who is Putin to say these things about the US".
Lots of talk about Georgia and gays,etc,etc. It's certainly valid that he shouldn't be throwing stones while living in a glass house. But there seems a lack of criticism of the points he actually makes. Some of them hit the nail on the head, much to the discomfort of Americans and their toadying minions.
 

Aardvark154

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To drag this thread back on track. Most of the criticism takes issue with 'Who is Putin to say these things about the US".
Lots of talk about Georgia and gays,etc,etc. It's certainly valid that he shouldn't be throwing stones while living in a glass house. But there seems a lack of criticism of the points he actually makes. Some of them hit the nail on the head, much to the discomfort of Americans and their toadying minions.
I believe I've already said that there are large sections which I can live with, however, paragraphs three through five and the final paragraph - no.
 

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Joking about what? I am absolutely serious.
I wonder why Kerry praised Russia's President Vladimir Putin and Lavrov for seizing the initiative that resulted in the Geneva talks being called on short notice this week.
 

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