Yes. You are correct. My sperm is worth a at least $1,000.... and taste great!
The OP is a joke...
Question- Do you think SP's are way under priced?
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A few years ago, an article in a top economists journal asked why they are paid as much as they are, given that the job has all the usual characterises of a badly paid one. E.g. unskilled labour. I don’t buy their explanation of it being mainly due to worsening of marriage prospects but I am sure that the stigma involved is a big part of the explanation for their relatively high wages. If anyone is interested, see:http://econpapers.repec.org/article/ucpjpolec/v_3a110_3ay_3a2002_3ai_3a1_3ap_3a181-214.htm
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Damn it's still 2009 . I wish you had have waited three weeks to post this beauty . It would have been my first nominee for most retarded post of 2010 . Sadly 2009 has dumber posts than this one (LOL) .
I know you are just pulling our leg with this shit but you have to understand some people actually believe everything they read on the Internet so we need to poke fun to at least make them pause and think .
This is my advice for agency's, escorts and indy's. You should be charging a minimun of $350 for any service that includes CIM. If you dont, you are basically jepordizing your future health.
Unprotected oral sex can lead to the HP virus, chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitus, syphilis and herpes.
In some cities such as our neighbours to the south, Sp's charge up to a thousand dollars an hour. The risks are higher in the states, due to the fact that its illegal, and there is no universal health insurance, but Im not suggesting we pay 1000 dollars an hour here. Im suggesting $350 to $500 per hour.
Americans who come here on business must be amazed on how cheap our escorts are.
Think about it ladies. Our girls and wives dont usually provide this service as frequently as we want it. Your holding all the cards. Providing un protected oral sex is something you should charge extra for.
Im willing to pay for it. I want to be with a healthy sp, not an unhealthy sp.
Unprotected oral sex can lead to the HP virus, chlamydia, gonorrhea, hepatitus, syphilis and herpes.
In some cities such as our neighbours to the south, Sp's charge up to a thousand dollars an hour. The risks are higher in the states, due to the fact that its illegal, and there is no universal health insurance, but Im not suggesting we pay 1000 dollars an hour here. Im suggesting $350 to $500 per hour.
Americans who come here on business must be amazed on how cheap our escorts are.
Think about it ladies. Our girls and wives dont usually provide this service as frequently as we want it. Your holding all the cards. Providing un protected oral sex is something you should charge extra for.
Im willing to pay for it. I want to be with a healthy sp, not an unhealthy sp.
They are free to up the cost at any time, the business response will let them know if it is the right decision.
That's more like it, direct your advice to the women instead of telling guys they aren't paying enough. Guys as individuals don't set the rate.
If you think wealthier guys mean healthier guys though, you're out of your tree.
Who said I wasn't grateful for horny men? I know those words never escaped my mouth!
As for what she charges, well I have never tried, but there are many successful sp's that charge close to or over her prices, however I'm pretty certain the service is much better! Chraging what she charges for just "sex and no touching" would be short lived here in Toronto, however her rates are not as inflated as you may think when you look at some of the sp's in Toronto.
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Most pychologists say that women who give it away for free are mentally unstable nymphomaniacs with a history of incest and/or abuse in their family. In other words...trash. Same with the guys who use these poor girls. Lets call them scum.
It was either a pychologist or Lisa Lapenelli who said this, I forget. I better watch her stand up routine again.
It was either a pychologist or Lisa Lapenelli who said this, I forget. I better watch her stand up routine again.
Glad to hear that I'm not a mentally unstable nymphomaniac since I'm charging for it. Is there also a correlation according to you re: mental stability and rates (ie, the higher the rates, the more mentally stable)?
Your perspective is refreshing. We usually hear that whores are unstable and damaged good who charge way too much for what we offer. You're still full of crap -- and I would suggest dealing with issues of guilt and repressed sexuality -- but refreshing nonetheless.
Sounds like you have the same things to be stressed about as regular working people, except you get paid 10 times as much for however short your "shelf" life is.
I don't think many SP's have a realistic idea of what it takes ordinary people to get ahead in this world and what they have to put up with. As mentioned by another poster, many have been working right out of the gate bing 19, 20, 21, etc. This is no offense to SP's! When I got out of university it was a real wake-up call. I had to buckle down and think smart just to survive.
I know it's unromantic to say these ladies aren't worth $250/hour. But to alot of people $250 means 10 days of a roof over your head or six weeks of food or enough gas to fill up your tank for weeks.
That would be anywhere from 12 - 24 hours of indirect work per hour with a client. I think YOUR math is flawed. Unless you are getting a manicure, pedicure, and having your hair done everyday these expenses don't add very much to your overhead. Being an independent I'm sure your expenses are higher, mostly for advertising.
I'd be very surprised if on average your indirect work doubled your direct work. It wouldn't matter if it did, you'd still be raking it in.
Ha Ha Ha.........
News Flash !
Extra cash defeats STDs !
( that's why Rich Dudes are disease free...ha ha ha )
Some people have more money than brains.
Rate talks will always be debated until the cows come home, but the market dictates what works.
However, more importantly than money, Gen picked up on the disturbing ideas that bothered me about this whole discussion.
The point was that nobody has to be grateful about the SP/John relationship. It is what it is, and it exists everywhere, and the local economy determines the price.SPs are more expensive in Vancouver than in Toronto. It is also more expensive to live in Vancouver than it is in Toronto. SP rates are cheaper in the cities just outside of Toronto, and the cost of living in those cities is cheaper than living in Toronto.
This is why you don't charge $2000/hour. If you could do that and have a flock of men willing to pay, you would do it.
You're not doing clients any favors and clients aren't doing you any favors. You charge what you can and clients pay if they can afford it.
ALL girls give it to some guy for free. Get that through your head. Ashley Dupree gave it to guys for free, and turned around and got 10s of thousands from other guys who wanted to pay her for it.
You're not fucking virgins just because they charge a lot. lol
Every "high class" escort you've ever laid your hands on has fucked her share of average douchebags for free.
Here's something you can try since you're a baller. Pay top dollar to fuck 50 women. Pay them no less than $2000/hr but make sure that you're allowed to bareback them. At the end, let us know if you are still STD free.
Every major pornstar charges those rates and they've all got herpes.
hahha you're an awesome troll.
I always though I had a good paying job (well until my daughter moved home with her 3 kids) but $250/h is more than I take home in a day.
I used to work for a corporation of 40,000 + people for 11 years.
There is:
- No retirement plan
I doubt SP's have a retirement plan either, the ones Ive known dont plan on doing this work forever, even if they wanted to, I think the shelf life of an sp is 5 years average, so school and tuition are most likely in the future.
- No pension plan
No pension sucks, because Im pretty sure Escort agency's and massage parlours have a great pension plan for their ladies, although it never pans out since the girls dont usually hand over their SIN
The "company" doesn't want the obligation. Pensions are a thing of the past. Going forward, the only people who will be having pensions are union hacks and government workers. (I'm neither)
I have to put up with:
- Unrealistic demands of my clients ALL THE TIME. okay this is a bad comparison? The clients the Sp's have to deal with dont expect anything unreal and none are demanding. Just kidding, duh. I cant even imagine what its like to be a PSE SP, but I would say the girls are not doing PSE because they enjoy it
- STUPID Dead lines that require me to work 16 hours a day, sometimes 36 hours straight In this case SP's have it a bit easier. I dont think any women could do her job for 16 hours a day, I doubt her body could withstand that kind of pressure physically, its not possible
- Mean clients who treat you like they own you.well, yea, so do SP's
- Having forgoe planned vacations at the last minute
Yes that really sucks, and I am sympathetic for you in that case, but many SP's I know cant afford a vacation anyways.
- Having to cancel attendence at family wedding last minute
Sps having to hide their work from their friends and family or face social isolation and ostrasization, probably miss many weddings too
- Criticism from morons (the big boss was a fucking goof).
Sp's that deal with terbites, agencys and of course an unruly client dont have it any better
- LAWSUITS when something goes wrong, even when you can show it's not your fault
When an SP is ripped off, she cannot use the legal system to collect her un paid fee's, so this is a grey area.
- Chasing clients to pay their invoices (we can't get the money up front)I think any Sp who doesnt take the money up front can also face this problem, but at least you can take your clients to court, and I hope you do
Add to that sensitivity training, Quality Management, ISO certification, Sox Compliance AND still having to get your work done,. Not to make light of your work problems, I think in general SP's are up against the same situation, but there is very little training for them.
On top of that I get to pay my mortgage, utilities, food bills, etc. just like you, only I can't charge $250 an hour. not to make suppositions but Sp's also have rent or mortgage to pay. They may make 250 an hour, but many times they only do one call a day
Oh, and I have to buy my own suits with my own money as well Yes, of course, SP's get all their clothes and lingere for free from Victorias secret
You have to take into account all the necessary preparation the SP must go through before she walks through the door. And when clients expect a women to come as fast as a pizza, that makes their job twice as hard.
Im sure when an SP gets a call from the agency, they have to drop what ever it is they are doing, go home, take a shower, put on make up, call to arrange when there driver is coming, and they still manage to get to your place in under 2 hours. You have to assume there is a lot of prep that goes into an appointment. I dont think any magic is involved.
When your dealing with agency girls, they really have to keep on top of things. Many SP's prefer to work with agencys for safety reasons, plus there is less work since the agency books the appointments, advertises them, etc... However I know agency owners, and the top ones in the city only hire healthy, drug free, attractive ladies.
In order for many to stay young, attractive and healthy, they need to be able to maintain a healthy life syle. I some how doubt these girls live at home with their parents.
Chances are there parents would be pretty upset if they found out the truth. So I dont think that an SP's life is all bubble gum and sun glasses.
There is:
- No retirement plan
I doubt SP's have a retirement plan either, the ones Ive known dont plan on doing this work forever, even if they wanted to, I think the shelf life of an sp is 5 years average, so school and tuition are most likely in the future.
- No pension plan
No pension sucks, because Im pretty sure Escort agency's and massage parlours have a great pension plan for their ladies, although it never pans out since the girls dont usually hand over their SIN
The "company" doesn't want the obligation. Pensions are a thing of the past. Going forward, the only people who will be having pensions are union hacks and government workers. (I'm neither)
I have to put up with:
- Unrealistic demands of my clients ALL THE TIME. okay this is a bad comparison? The clients the Sp's have to deal with dont expect anything unreal and none are demanding. Just kidding, duh. I cant even imagine what its like to be a PSE SP, but I would say the girls are not doing PSE because they enjoy it
- STUPID Dead lines that require me to work 16 hours a day, sometimes 36 hours straight In this case SP's have it a bit easier. I dont think any women could do her job for 16 hours a day, I doubt her body could withstand that kind of pressure physically, its not possible
- Mean clients who treat you like they own you.well, yea, so do SP's
- Having forgoe planned vacations at the last minute
Yes that really sucks, and I am sympathetic for you in that case, but many SP's I know cant afford a vacation anyways.
- Having to cancel attendence at family wedding last minute
Sps having to hide their work from their friends and family or face social isolation and ostrasization, probably miss many weddings too
- Criticism from morons (the big boss was a fucking goof).
Sp's that deal with terbites, agencys and of course an unruly client dont have it any better
- LAWSUITS when something goes wrong, even when you can show it's not your fault
When an SP is ripped off, she cannot use the legal system to collect her un paid fee's, so this is a grey area.
- Chasing clients to pay their invoices (we can't get the money up front)I think any Sp who doesnt take the money up front can also face this problem, but at least you can take your clients to court, and I hope you do
Add to that sensitivity training, Quality Management, ISO certification, Sox Compliance AND still having to get your work done,. Not to make light of your work problems, I think in general SP's are up against the same situation, but there is very little training for them.
On top of that I get to pay my mortgage, utilities, food bills, etc. just like you, only I can't charge $250 an hour. not to make suppositions but Sp's also have rent or mortgage to pay. They may make 250 an hour, but many times they only do one call a day
Oh, and I have to buy my own suits with my own money as well Yes, of course, SP's get all their clothes and lingere for free from Victorias secret
You have to take into account all the necessary preparation the SP must go through before she walks through the door. And when clients expect a women to come as fast as a pizza, that makes their job twice as hard.
Im sure when an SP gets a call from the agency, they have to drop what ever it is they are doing, go home, take a shower, put on make up, call to arrange when there driver is coming, and they still manage to get to your place in under 2 hours. You have to assume there is a lot of prep that goes into an appointment. I dont think any magic is involved.
When your dealing with agency girls, they really have to keep on top of things. Many SP's prefer to work with agencys for safety reasons, plus there is less work since the agency books the appointments, advertises them, etc... However I know agency owners, and the top ones in the city only hire healthy, drug free, attractive ladies.
In order for many to stay young, attractive and healthy, they need to be able to maintain a healthy life syle. I some how doubt these girls live at home with their parents.
Chances are there parents would be pretty upset if they found out the truth. So I dont think that an SP's life is all bubble gum and sun glasses.
