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Steve Jobs passes away at 56 years old.

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I agree.. hes a man who made money and nobody knows what he did with it.
estimated to be worth $ 7 billion dollars and over the past year he purposely put investments etc in trusts to keep his welath private and hidden from taxes.
when Bill Gates dies and Warren Buffet people will of course talk about what they did business wise etc.. but they will be mainly rememebred for giving their money away for the best of mankind.
The Rockefellers , Carnegies and Fords gave most away and set up foundations.
Again in all fairness we dont know all the details as of yet but I find very odd how there has been very litlle mention of any philantrophy.

Am I the only person in the world that couldnt give a fuck....

All this 'I love him' from Social Media....He's just a smart CEO.

I do feel for him family and people who love him and Cancer is a bitch.
 

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He was an innovator and visionary, but a crappy human being. He cut all philanthropy programs as soon as he took over apple. He let his daughter live in squalor. He used Chinese slave-wage labor. He was an admitted egomaniac. Not a nice guy.
 

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I read a very cute article a few weeks ago by a woman who lived in his neighborhood in Palo Alto, she went with her son to his house tricker treating last year.... when they walked up Steve said hi to her by name - she said the look on her sons face was priceless, he thought it was so cool Steve Jobs knew who his mom was.....

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He used Chinese slave-wage labor. He was an admitted egomaniac. Not a nice guy.
He showed compassion for his workers in RED China by installing 'safety nets' to make it more difficult for workers to commit suicide by jumping off roof tops while working at Apple Plants there...:eyebrows:
 

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Steve Jobs single-handedly discovered a cure for AIDS and brought peace to the world judging by some of the reactions to his death.

Everyone's death is sad but I can't be the only one utterly perplexed by the candlelight memorials and grief over a businessman?
 

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The force in the 'cult' is strong......
 

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Wow, talk about spinning.

First off, Jobs probably cut off the philanthropy programs because Apple was losing a LOT of money. I don't know of any other business executive who would do differently when faced with that sort of situation.

Second, Jobs' never married the mother of his first (?) daughter if that was who you were referring too. He did eventually own up to his paternity and did send her off to Harvard.

http://www.minyanville.com/special-...n-jobs-business-icons-rich/8/31/2010/id/29768

Third, Chinese slave-labor? Virtually everything you buy these days was built by those slaves so are your hands clean?

Jobs was not a nice person but it takes someone a lot lower like you to talk someone like him down.

He was an innovator and visionary, but a crappy human being. He cut all philanthropy programs as soon as he took over apple. He let his daughter live in squalor. He used Chinese slave-wage labor. He was an admitted egomaniac. Not a nice guy.
 

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Isn't it time you tried to find that village that AnimalMagnetism wandered off to?

He showed compassion for his workers in RED China by installing 'safety nets' to make it more difficult for workers to commit suicide by jumping off roof tops while working at Apple Plants there...:eyebrows:
 

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Wow, talk about spinning.

First off, Jobs probably cut off the philanthropy programs because Apple was losing a LOT of money. I don't know of any other business executive who would do differently when faced with that sort of situation.
...and said only when they become "profitable" would he get back into it.

http://kikizo.com/2011/08/25/steve-jobs-charity/
"As far as I’m aware, this fact is undisputed. As an article on AOL site Daily Finance puts it:
He doesn’t give any money to charity. And when he became Apple’s CEO he stopped all of its philanthropic programs.
He said, “wait until we are profitable”. Now Apple is profitable, and sitting on $40 billion in cash, and still no corporate philanthropy."


 

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Steve Jobs single-handedly discovered a cure for AIDS and brought peace to the world judging by some of the reactions to his death.

Everyone`s death is sad but I can`t be the only one utterly perplexed by the candlelight memorials and grief over a businessman?
No, you`re not the only one. But IMO, it`s almost akin to a celebrity dying, almost. Most celebrities only contribute with re-runs or what not, he left something tangible I suppose.
In fact, when someone who actually has done something very worthy for the human cause and dies, it goes unnoticed.
Case in point ---> https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...Winner-dies-before-learning-he-gets-the-Nobel
 

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Wow, talk about spinning.

First off, Jobs probably cut off the philanthropy programs because Apple was losing a LOT of money. I don't know of any other business executive who would do differently when faced with that sort of situation.
Yeah ... talk about spinning ....

"Moreover, Jobs had closed Apple’s philanthropic programs when he returned to the company in 1997 and never reinstated them despite $14 billion in profit last year, the Times reported."


Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...philanthropy/2011/10/06/gIQA3YKKRL_story.html
 

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Yeah ... talk about spinning ....

"Moreover, Jobs had closed Apple’s philanthropic programs when he returned to the company in 1997 and never reinstated them despite $14 billion in profit last year, the Times reported."


Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...philanthropy/2011/10/06/gIQA3YKKRL_story.html
I'm not an Steve Jobs or Apple fanboy in the least but from the article you posted:

"Bono, U2’s lead singer and a noted activist, quickly responded to the Times piece, writing that “Apple’s contribution to our fight against AIDS in Africa has been invaluable.”

The company had given “tens of millions of dollars that have transformed the lives of more than two million Africans through H.I.V. testing, treatment and counseling. This is serious and significant. And Apple’s involvement has encouraged other companies to step up,” Bono wrote. “Just because he’s been extremely busy, that doesn’t mean that he and his wife, Laurene, have not been thinking about these things.”

Jobs’s supporters say it also may be impossible to know from public records what he gave away because he could have requested anonymity. Indeed, his plans for the rest of his wealth may not be known until well after his death.

The fact that he doesn’t appear on lists of public giving “doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s not giving generously,” said Adriene Davis of Indiana University’s Center on Philanthropy, which tracks such gifts."
 

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The fact that he doesn’t appear on lists of public giving “doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s not giving generously,” said Adriene Davis of Indiana University’s Center on Philanthropy, which tracks such gifts."
It doesn't mean he was either. The 'serious & significant' HIV contribution is peanuts compared with other corporations with significantly less financial worth. You are writing about a company whose profit was $14 Billion. Apple just reflected Jobs personality - from the product compatibility, secrecy, and ruthless exploitation of it's customers.

Obviously - even as an iPhone owner - I am not an Apple/ Jobs fan. I do recognize him as a marketing genious.
 

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Has it now become law that companies and rich individuals have to give to charity? This is the hight of hypocricy, when
there is absolute resistence to increase taxes to pay for welfare.
 

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Has it now become law that companies and rich individuals have to give to charity? This is the hight of hypocricy, when
there is absolute resistence to increase taxes to pay for welfare.
They resist to pay increase taxes because giving to charity gives them a tax deduction and they end up with more in their pocket, plus it strokes their ego because they look good to the public as a philanthropist. It's all about the money.
 

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They resist to pay increase taxes because giving to charity gives them a tax deduction and they end up with more in their pocket, plus it strokes their ego because they look good to the public as a philanthropist. It's all about the money.
Actually I think it has more to do with making sure the money does some good as opposed to congress buying votes with other people's money....

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They resist to pay increase taxes because giving to charity gives them a tax deduction and they end up with more in their pocket, plus it strokes their ego because they look good to the public as a philanthropist. It's all about the money.
Even if you get a tax break, it never equals more than the money you donate. There is a real loss of wealth, but it's money they can afford to part with.
 

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So, in other words, one cannot say yet some people feel that it's their right to make unfounded assertions.

It doesn't mean he was either. The 'serious & significant' HIV contribution is peanuts compared with other corporations with significantly less financial worth. You are writing about a company whose profit was $14 Billion. Apple just reflected Jobs personality - from the product compatibility, secrecy, and ruthless exploitation of it's customers.

Obviously - even as an iPhone owner - I am not an Apple/ Jobs fan. I do recognize him as a marketing genious.
 
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