The sexodus: Men giving up on women and checking out

[canada-man]

This is a very depressing thread and I am sad that so many men feel this way.

here is more ammo for them. straight men are slowly being criminalized in western society. now they want to tell men how to sit on busses and trains. ignoring the fact that we have testicles that are sensitive to pressure


http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/movement-...n-transit-picks-up-speed-in-toronto-1.2158517

 

[Jasmine Raine]

here is more ammo for them. straight men are slowly being criminalized in western society. now they want to tell men how to sit on busses and trains. ignoring the fact that we have testicles that are sensitive to pressure


http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/movement-...n-transit-picks-up-speed-in-toronto-1.2158517

That is just ridiculous. Honestly ridiculous.

 

[Titalian]

This is a very depressing thread and I am sad that so many men feel this way.

I have no clue how old you are, but this unsustainable fashion in our society, has been going on for too many years now and you can blame the politicians for that. I am recently divorced, and this is exactly whats happened to me !!
and all because my ex decided at one point, no more sex ??? After six years of this, what was I to do, but find another way. At this point in my life, this is the best option for me, And I can tell you, I have met some
pretty incredible women in this industry, who respect me and I in return. That's all we're looking for !! Do I still believe in being with one person, of course I do, But after being in a relationship for 24yrs, I am a little more aware of the consequences !!
This is not depressing or sad, But a change. Which is desperately needed.

 

[canada-man]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...to-learn-women-s-styling-techniques-1.2326264

maleness under attack. the barbershop a traditional male space is under attack by the Ontario government.

 

[Titalian]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...to-learn-women-s-styling-techniques-1.2326264

maleness under attack. the barbershop a traditional male space is under attack by the Ontario government.

This pure fuken BS, again politicians. WTF is going on ???

 

[Jasmine Raine]

I have no clue how old you are, but this unsustainable fashion in our society, has been going on for too many years now and you can blame the politicians for that. I am recently divorced, and this is exactly whats happened to me !!
and all because my ex decided at one point, no more sex ??? After six years of this, what was I to do, but find another way. At this point in my life, this is the best option for me, And I can tell you, I have met some
pretty incredible women in this industry, who respect me and I in return. That's all we're looking for !! Do I still believe in being with one person, of course I do, But after being in a relationship for 24yrs, I am a little more aware of the consequences !!
This is not depressing or sad, But a change. Which is desperately needed.

What I found depressing was some of the opinions that men seem to have of all women in general as well as the some of the issue that men do face in relationships, especially with situations as you describe. However, I know you are smart enough to know that not all women are like your ex wife and therefore should not all be lump in the same category.

I am not married, nor have I been. I am not one for traditional relationships either, however I don't blame men for that. I am who I am and I do what I want. That is no "fault" of the sexes.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...to-learn-women-s-styling-techniques-1.2326264

maleness under attack. the barbershop a traditional male space is under attack by the Ontario government.

I agreed with the other article, but not this. While I understand that barbers have been a predominately "male" establishment, that should not take away from the ability to offer equal service to women. This is not a threat on "maleness" in my opinion. Hair dressers, body waxers, etc cater to both men and women.

Now if you want to get on a tangent about the Ontario College of Trades, I am right there with you. Some of the things they have been doing over the years is down right stupid. I just don't think equal service requirements are one of them.

 

[wangbang]

This is a very depressing thread and I am sad that so many men feel this way.

It is depressing and it is sad. It is also symptomatic of the tide changing. Finally.

 

[wangbang]

I agreed with the other article, but not this. While I understand that barbers have been a predominately "male" establishment, that should not take away from the ability to offer equal service to women. This is not a threat on "maleness" in my opinion. Hair dressers, body waxers, etc cater to both men and women.

Now if you want to get on a tangent about the Ontario College of Trades, I am right there with you. Some of the things they have been doing over the years is down right stupid. I just don't think equal service requirements are one of them.

Down the street from me is a beautiful spa that is women only. Have sent female friends on many occasions and they love it and go on and on about the facility.

Do I care that men aren't allowed? Not in the slightest.

Would I sue them for not allowing men? Hell no, I respect that this is a comfortable environment for women.

But if a man wanted that same comfortable environment, say a barber shop/gym/golf club, there is no chance of it lasting without some protest or court test.

 

[Celticman]

I agreed with the other article, but not this. While I understand that barbers have been a predominately "male" establishment, that should not take away from the ability to offer equal service to women. This is not a threat on "maleness" in my opinion. Hair dressers, body waxers, etc cater to both men and women.

I disagree with any view like this. I have never seen a woman come into a barbershop for service. I cannot imagine a woman going into a barbershop for service. This is just part of the ongoing march of PC-Feminist triumphalism. If the requirement and your support of it make sense, then all hairdressing salons should be trained in how to provide tonsorial services like shaving.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Down the street from me is a beautiful spa that is women only. Have sent female friends on many occasions and they love it and go on and on about the facility.

Do I care that men aren't allowed? Not in the slightest.

Would I sue them for not allowing men? Hell no, I respect that this is a comfortable environment for women.

But if a man wanted that same comfortable environment, say a barber shop/gym/golf club, there is no chance of it lasting without some protest or court test.

Maybe I am not making myself clear. I would not sue a barber for not allowing women either. That is not me. I understand that men and women alike enjoy an environment free of the opposite sex. That is NOT the aspect of the article I was speaking about. I was speaking about the law/right to equal service. Based on that your female only spa down the road is just as wrong for not servicing men. I do not believe it is nor should be a fight on the sexes of men or women, or as CM put it - a threat on maleness.

I disagree with any view like this. I have never seen a woman come into a barbershop for service. I cannot imagine a woman going into a barbershop for service. This is just part of the ongoing march of PC-Feminist triumphalism. If the requirement and your support of it make sense, then all hairdressing salons should be trained in how to provide tonsorial services like shaving.

I 100% agree that hairdressers should, especially if barbers are excepted to now learn how to cut, dye and perm. Why not make the ladies learn as well? Or maybe the OCOT and the ministry should work at creating a distinct trade of barber, separate from hairstylists as was suggested in the article.

Sorry I am not a feminist by any means. I don't think women should automatically get this or that because they are women. That is not me, but at the same time, I am not doing to stand by and be lumped into the "women are money-hungry gold digging bitches who want everything their way and are sucking the life blood out of every man in the world" attitude either. I am speaking about equality and that in my opinion does indeed goes both ways. Trust me when I say that many women do not like that I don't jump on their bandwagons either. This to me is not a an attack on "maleness".

Oh and just a little FYI, I personally know of 2 women who use{d} a barber. One because she like a crew cut, and the second would go when she was having treatments and want to shed her hair herself on her own terms. So while admittedly very rare, it does happen. Of course, these ladies were not looking for an up-do. A barber was the best service person for the job being requested.

 

[Titalian]

And I can tell you, I have met some pretty incredible women in this industry, who respect me and I in return. Do I still believe in being with one person, of course I do!
This is not depressing or sad, But a change. Which is desperately needed.

I am not married,nor have I been. I am not one for traditional relationships either, however I don't blame men for that. I am who I am and I do what I want. That is no "fault" of the sexes. [/B]

Obviously you didn't read my full post completely. On your last statement, if you haven't been Married then please, don't comment, this is different thing altogether!

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Obviously you didn't read my full post completely. On your last statement, if you haven't been Married then please, don't comment, this is different thing altogether!

I am sorry. I did not realize that one has to actually be married to make a comment in this thread. I will be sure to remember that the next time a man such as yourself makes a comment about how to be a companion as that seems to happen quite frequently here. I should be able to equally tell them not to comment as well, right?

Also, either you did not read correctly yourself or I didn't make myself clear. I was explaining what I found to be depressing about this thread. Not negating the need for change {on both sides}, nor your personal feelings about women and their individuality. As you seem to say, your ex was one way but other women are different and you recognize that. Not all men in this thread see the individual lady and they just lump us all into one group. I was speaking to their singular opinions in my last statement. Not to your personal marriage or even your personal opinion. I hope that clears it up for you.

I think I will depart from this thread however because like the barber shop, this is no place for a woman when the only thing that most of the men want to do is bash and bitch about women in general.

 

[Titalian]

when the only thing that most of the men want to do is bash and bitch about women in general.

This is far from the truth Jessica, really far, NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE THAT !!! But then again, this is where the discord becomes an issue.

 

[Serpent]

I am sorry. I did not realize that one has to actually be married to make a comment in this thread. I will be sure to remember that the next time a man such as yourself makes a comment about how to be a companion as that seems to happen quite frequently here. I should be able to equally tell them not to comment as well, right?

Also, either you did not read correctly yourself or I didn't make myself clear. I was explaining what I found to be depressing about this thread. Not negating the need for change {on both sides}, nor your personal feelings about women and their individuality. As you seem to say, your ex was one way but other women are different and you recognize that. Not all men in this thread see the individual lady and they just lump us all into one group. I was speaking to their singular opinions in my last statement. Not to your personal marriage or even your personal opinion. I hope that clears it up for you.

I think I will depart from this thread however because like the barber shop, this is no place for a woman when the only thing that most of the men want to do is bash and bitch about women in general.

Some of us guys don't - we recognize that women make us better and deserve to be respected.

But some of these women on online dating sites are so picky, man....it makes me shake my head!

 

[Celticman]

I 100% agree that hairdressers should, especially if barbers are excepted to now learn how to cut, dye and perm. Why not make the ladies learn as well? Or maybe the OCOT and the ministry should work at creating a distinct trade of barber, separate from hairstylists as was suggested in the article.

Marvelous. Hairdressers should learn how to shave men for men who will never go there for a shave and barbers should learn how to perm for women that will never go to a barber for a perm. That really justifies all of this. NOT. George Orwell saw this coming.

Oh and just a little FYI, I personally know of 2 women who use{d} a barber. One because she like a crew cut, and the second would go when she was having treatments and want to shed her hair herself on her own terms. So while admittedly very rare, it does happen. Of course, these ladies were not looking for an up-do. A barber was the best service person for the job being requested.

That is about as obtuse an analogy as it gets. They went there for a barber’s normal service typically used for men. As in 99.99% of the time. But of course the barber should know how to tint and perm in case the lady wanted an avant-guarde crew cut. Got it.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

This is far from the truth Jessica, really far, NOT ALL MEN ARE LIKE THAT !!! But then again, this is where the discord becomes an issue.

Titalian, I am not interested in fighting with you. I meant no offense in any of my postings and I am sorry if you took it as such. And just to point out, you highlighted the wrong part of my post. It reads completely different if you are open to seeing it.

when the only thing that most of the men want to do is bash and bitch about women in general.

I know that not all men are like that. I am sad that some people in this thread seems to think that all women are like "that".

Some of us guys don't - we recognize that women make us better and deserve to be respected.

But some of these women on online dating sites are so picky, man....it makes me shake my head!

Don't get me wrong. I know guys have it rough in some ways. I really do. I feel for Titalian when he says that she said no sex. I truly feel bad, and I don't think it is right. I think that as a married couple, they should work together to ensure that all needs are met and that includes sexual. Even if that means her being okay with him getting his needs met professionally. I know I am odd in that thinking. I have been told that before but that is my opinion.

I find this thread sad and depressing as well because of that. I read these horror stories of how some women are. I am not blind to the woes of men. They are real and I validate that. I was never trying to take that away. I just commented about how sad and depressing this all is. It took off from there.

Marvelous. Hairdressers should learn how to shave men for men who will never go there for a shave and barbers should learn how to perm for women that will never go to a barber for a perm. That really justifies all of this. NOT



That is about as obtuse an analogy as it gets. They went there for a barber’s normal service typically used for men. As in 99.99% of the time. But of course the barber should know how to tint and perm in case the lady wanted an avant-guarde crew cut. Got it.

I do not think this issue for barber vrs hairdresser is a threat on "maleness" which is what canada-man implied. I think it is the OCOT showing their stupidity once again in the way they are classifying and licencing trades in Ontario. If it is about equality, then yes both should learn. However, I do not think it is about that. I do not how much more I can explain that. Sorry.

Hopefully this will conclude things for me properly in this thread. Thanks all for letting me say my piece.

 

[canada-man]

Published on Dec 27, 2014

"Hi Sandman, I'm a doctor and part of my training is doing a GP rotation atm. As I was leaving my practice on day I saw an elderly woman on the street lying down with three guys around her. The woman was not moving so I jumped down and tried to assess her situation. As I started doing the ABCDE's a woman came by and started trying to take over. I told her promptly that I am a doctor and that she should step back. As I performed my duty she told me that she came to help because she didn't want to leave the woman surrounded by so many men. When the ambulance came and the patient left, I quickly jumped in my car and drove off. I was very annoyed by her comment. The men were calling the ambulance and were actually assisting whereas she tried to get in the way with limited knowledge. I got even more annoyed as I saw her sweet-looking at me after she made such a sexist comment at me. I did not feel like talking. It's an attitude that I keep seeing with today's generation of females. Men are always the predators. I do not understand this. What have men done to these females
that she would even consider that they would grab a feel on an unconscious 80 year old woman. Please share your thoughts. I wish to remain anonymous as if it got out it might affect my work. Cheers!" Well thanks for your comments and questions Dr. Anonymous. So here's an elderly woman lying on the ground Dr. Anonymous. You're trying to help her and save her life but in the mind of the other woman watching what if you're not? What if your intention is not to help her, but to harm her? The woman that wanted to take over from you probably saw what you were doing and thought to herself for whatever reason that she could do the same thing you were doing. She thought thanks to the female group consciousness that she wanted to help this woman because she had some level of camaraderie with her even though she clearly didn't have the training and expertise. I think there's also a part of her that might have been jealous of the elderly woman getting all of the attention from the men that were standing around watching or trying to help.

 

[wangbang]

But some of these women on online dating sites are so picky, man....it makes me shake my head!

C'mon man, the 15 or so single women I know who can't find a real man to date would just say "we aren't picky, you're just not good enough". :rofl:

 

[Serpent]

C'mon man, the 15 or so single women I know who can't find a real man to date would just say "we aren't picky, you're just not good enough". :rofl:

And I say to them, "G'day to you lady, I'm off to enjoy my great life.....please carry on with the desperate selfies and your mundane 9-5 existence looking for The One Doctor Brad Pitt."

 

[nottyboi]

So idiotic, force these guys to acquire licenses in such a harmless profession. What if a guy does not want to do womens hair? Why should he not just be allowed to be a barber? They make much less money, but if he is happy with it he should be allowed. If a woman wants a KD Lang haircut.. no problem as well.