Trump bars all international students from Harvard

[WyattEarp]

I don't know. Do you have the racial make up of the international students at Harvard? Still there are probably quite a few white students from other countries, hard to make the ethnic cleansing case.

They're kind of making a stupid argument on two levels. One is the true ethnic composition of foreign students. And as always, a five second search would give them the answer rather than repeating something they heard.

Harvard's top origination of students are from China, Canada, India, South Korea and the U.K.

I don't think East Asians really fit the bill for people of color in the modern age. India.....yeah that fits the bill if they insist on pushing this point to its limit.

 

[Frankfooter]

I view it like the tariffs where he went after everybody. That's what he usually does. He has a hard on for Harvard for whatever reason. I don't think this is about ethnic cleansing because I'm sure among those international students, some are probably white. I think this is more to hurt Harvard financially since a quarter of their students are from foreign countries that pay full price. Just like him trying to pull government funding from Harvard which has nothing to do with race or ethnicity

The correct view is that trump's actions are entirely those of a toddler in the middle of a tantrum.
Yesterday it was Harvard, then it was Apple, then the EU.
MAGA is based on anger and rage farming, so many of the right wingers here celebrate when trump acts like a troll.

It really doesn't matter how smart it is, just how angry he sounds.

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[Gooseifur]

Like this woman at Northwestern University?

So you're claiming no Jewish students are being threatened or harassed on any university grounds. That's like me saying Israel isn't bombing Gaza

 

[Gooseifur]

This is rump country, not Canada. It doesn't need to make sense. Once you are brown, they want you gone. If they all Russian, do you think they would be deported? It's about protecting Jews as well. They are special people!

You're really out to lunch. There are a lot of international students at Harvard who are white who are subject to the same rules as the "brown" ones. They will all have to find new schools if the courts determine that Trump can do this.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You're really out to lunch. There are a lot of international students at Harvard who are white who are subject to the same rules as the "brown" ones. They will all have to find new schools if the courts determine that Trump can do this.

The majority of international students are persons of colour.
Will a few white students from Europe be hurt as a result of these policies? Sure.
But for the Trump administration this is a price worth paying for the advantage of deporting the majority POC students and immigrants.

 

[Frankfooter]

So you're claiming no Jewish students are being threatened or harassed on any university grounds. That's like me saying Israel isn't bombing Gaza

Its only zionists that feel threatened. Its a bit like saying you feel unsafe wearing your white kkk hood or marching with the Proud Boys.
Though Jews who protest against genocide are threatened by zionists and cops.

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[WyattEarp]

The majority of international students are persons of colour.
Will a few white students from Europe be hurt as a result of these policies? Sure.

Under your definition, are ethnic Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and other East Asians are people of color?
I don't think they meet the modern criteria, but their lumped in when it's convenient to the race argument.

I also don't think there is any wide-reaching goal to ratchet down the number of foreign students in the U.S. I already noted why would the Administration cozy up with the Middle East leaders and then look to restrict their peoples' participation in American education. The race card doesn't hold water.

Simply put, Harvard's the target not the foreign students themselves. If the argument is that this will put a chill on foreign students political activism in the U.S., that's just an ancillary and somewhat unfortunate effect that shouldn't be a major concern to U.S. citizens. U.S. citizens decide how our country will be governed.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

...are ethnic Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and other East Asians are people of color?

People of colour are non-caucasians.
So yes, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese and other East Asians are also people of colour.
This is not my definition but the definition of POC in the US.

 

[WyattEarp]

People of colour are non-caucasians.
So yes, Chinese, Koreans and Japanese and other East Asians are also people of colour.
This is not my definition but the definition of POC in the US.

That's good because Asians are fighting to not get squeezed out by Harvard's defacto quotas.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

That's good because Asians are fighting to not get squeezed out by Harvard's defacto quotas.

That's a different fight.

 

[WyattEarp]

That's a different fight.

It's a fight that challenges your POV re: people of color.

As I said, the East Asians are used when they are conveniently needed to adhere to the race angle.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

It's a fight that challenges your POV re: people of color.

No it doesn't.
My allegation is about the Trump administration's policy against POC immigrants (including students).
You are off on a tangent speaking about effects of affirmative action on Asian Americans, which Caucasians complain about more than Asian Americans do.

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Unfortunately, it seems one of the U.S. most prestigious universities has been infiltrated by the CCP

Unfortunately the leaders of the American government have been infiltrated by Russia, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Qatar, big tech, big pharma and whomever else has hundreds of millions to bribe the trumps with

 

[40micmic]

Unfortunately the leaders of the American government have been infiltrated by Russia, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Qatar, big tech, big pharma and whomever else has hundreds of millions to bribe the trumps with

You dont think this happens with the CCP? Or are they the ones doing the bribing.

 

[Frankfooter]

You dont think this happens with the CCP? Or are they the ones doing the bribing.

Doesn't this seem to happen just about everywhere now?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

When I was a U.S. college student many years ago, we had foreign students who were politically active. Some were Marxists from third world and communist-bloc countries with some latent anti-American sentiment. We also had pro-Palestinian students from the Mideast. These foreign students were so small in number no one gave them a second thought. I can tell you knowing some of them first hand they would never intimidate Jewish students or anyone who refused to denounce Israel.

The difference today is that many major universities have so many foreign students that these student groups can bring a lot of havoc to a campus. If they simply carried signs and marched on campus, I don't think we would be having these discussion.

Another factor is many universities have tilted the balance of the administration/faculty to be dominated by progressive politics. There's nothing illegal about that other than it does raise the question of taxpayer funding. What is more problematic is what I said earlier about universities acting like a sovereignty within a sovereignty.

I remember when I was a kid the united states was a great country and I was actually envious of the people that lived there. Since then it went from prosperous under Clinton to a complete 3rd world shithole with a disportuonate number of rich people vs the poor just like every 3rd world country

 

[dirtydaveiii]

You dont think this happens with the CCP? Or are they the ones doing the bribing.

Xi owns Donnie too. His bribers include all the dictators with money in the world

 

[Gooseifur]

The majority of international students are persons of colour.
Will a few white students from Europe be hurt as a result of these policies? Sure.
But for the Trump administration this is a price worth paying for the advantage of deporting the majority POC students and immigrants.

how do you know the majority of international students at Harvard are persons of colour? Do you have any statistics to back that up?

 

[TauCeti]

The majority of international students are persons of colour.
Will a few white students from Europe be hurt as a result of these policies? Sure.
But for the Trump administration this is a price worth paying for the advantage of deporting the majority POC students and immigrants.

“the majority of foreign students at Harvard are not Black. While Black students represent a significant portion of the student body, international students make up a substantial portion of Harvard's total enrollment. In fact, Asian Americans make up the largest racial group among Harvard's students, with 37% of the student body identifying as Asian American”

”The enrolled student population at Harvard University, both undergraduate and graduate, is 32.6% White, 14.8% Asian, 9.23% Hispanic or Latino, 6.44% Black or African American, 4.3% Two or More Races, 0.207% American Indian or Alaska Native, and 0.109% Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islanders.”

 

[Frankfooter]

how do you know the majority of international students at Harvard are persons of colour? Do you have any statistics to back that up?

He already did supply those numbers.

Who do you think will be happy that they are sent to a trade school instead of Harvard?

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