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richaceg

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Yes, I've seen both.
Saw the whole rally, in fact, not just Trump.

As people who have been here a while know, going to primary sources is important to me and I really wish more people did it.
So having seen it, Isn't it wrong for Kamala and the democrats including MSM on keep bringing it because it's quite obvious he didn't incite insurrection there.
 

Valcazar

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So having seen it, Isn't it wrong for Kamala and the democrats including MSM on keep bringing it because it's quite obvious he didn't incite insurrection there.
That's not obvious at all, actually.
If take it in a vacuum, there is no way you could convict him based on that speech alone. I certainly agree with that.
But who would be so silly as to take that speech in a vacuum?
 
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Butler1000

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People whose circumstances are materially better or worse.
People who are dead.
You know - government actually has a pretty large impact on lots of people in a country.
And now maybe you can really empathize with lots of people who feel that way about Biden Harris. They just have different experiences and reasons not to be so pragmatic as you think they should be.

Every time I go the USA I talk to people. From all walks and all places. My take away has been what you said. But maybe for different reasons.

For every Covid death there is a Opiod one, or a War casualty, or a healthcare death due to lack of funds. Or a crime victim, and many other reasons. Same with economics. The nation is a harsh one.

And let's face, most of things that are problems are not caused by Washington policy. But by entrenched bureaucracy, entrenched policy and law lobbied for profits, and indifference.

When Flint Michigan gets clean water you can maybe start to convince me otherwise.
 

Valcazar

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And now maybe you can really empathize with lots of people who feel that way about Biden Harris. They just have different experiences and reasons not to be so pragmatic as you think they should be.

Every time I go the USA I talk to people. From all walks and all places. My take away has been what you said. But maybe for different reasons.

For every Covid death there is a Opiod one, or a War casualty, or a healthcare death due to lack of funds. Or a crime victim, and many other reasons. Same with economics. The nation is a harsh one.

And let's face, most of things that are problems are not caused by Washington policy. But by entrenched bureaucracy, entrenched policy and law lobbied for profits, and indifference.

When Flint Michigan gets clean water you can maybe start to convince me otherwise.
And every single one of those things is affected by who is running the government and by policy.
Which you admit in your second to last sentence.

I get it - you don't care about any of those things because they don't affect you.
You are indifferent, as you have repeatedly said.

I'm not.
 

Butler1000

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And every single one of those things is affected by who is running the government and by policy.
Which you admit in your second to last sentence.

I get it - you don't care about any of those things because they don't affect you.
You are indifferent, as you have repeatedly said.

I'm not.
Oh no, I'm quite empathetic to them. It's why I have the ability to not judge how they vote.

And worsening poverty affects my society, while other factors do as well.

But as Jill Stein recently said, how can you achieve the greater good by only voting for the lesser of two evils. And that applies to both parties.
 

The Oracle

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
From one of the horses' mouth, take his perspective on Harris' effort to do his show for what its worth.

Bingo..Her team wanted to control the interview...No way Joe was going to go that route.

He knew what they did with Bret Baier when she went on Fox.

Her team did the right thing. How the hell was she going to do a 3 hour conversation about herself, lol.

She's basically an AI candidate...There's nothing real about her at all.
 
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wigglee

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"When are you going to present the evidence of election fraud from 2020?" Good one, Joe! Here's another one from me... "How many times in the last 8 years have you said your improved health plan will be released in a few weeks?" LOL... we're still waiting and in the Kamala debate he said he didn't actually have a plan, just a concept, which he failed to outline at all. He was asked what is his favourite Bible verse and he couldn't name a single one, just dodged the question.... but Mitchell still loves to lick his sphincter!
 
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wigglee

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I can see how you would feel that way. I'm sure you can follow along just fine until he starts using words with more than two syllables then you're right, he just makes no sense at that point. When you were in school did you ride on the big bus or the shorter one? I already know the answer, I just want to hear you say it. :ROFLMAO:
Trump can't even pronounce words with more than 2 syllables correctly. That's why the uneducated love him (like you)....Covfefe and God bless the unite shtase o merica.
 

squeezer

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Interesting debate, Cuomo, Bill O’Reilly, Stephen A. Smith, Mark Cuban, Sarah Palin

 

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The liberal media seems to be doubling down hard on this matter of deportation. This interview with Trump's former acting ICE Director has been a case and point.

What I keep hearing through the media manipulation is that deportations are bad. You don't have to be a heartless conservative to know that deportation has to be a major part of the border control/immigration toolbox. Trump basically said a couple weeks ago that you can't limit your options otherwise migrants will keep pouring over the border. If the U.S. makes it easy and comfortable to stay without legal status, you get the mess we have now.

I don't exactly know how stringent deportation policy will be, but I do know you can't have a policy that avoids deportations other than in very extreme cases. Regardless of the election outcome, I think the American people now knows that to be the case. They also resent the media gaslighting.
 
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squeezer

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The liberal media seems to be doubling down hard on this matter of deportation. This interview with Trump's former acting ICE Director has been a case and point.

What I keep hearing through the media manipulation is that deportations are bad. You don't have to be a heartless conservative to know that deportation has to be a major part of the border control/immigration toolbox. Trump basically said a couple weeks ago that you can't limit your options otherwise migrants will keep pouring over the border. If the U.S. makes it easy and comfortable to stay, you get the mess we have now.

I don't exactly know how stringent deportation policy will be, but I do know you can't have a policy that avoids deportations other than very extreme cases. Regardless of the election outcome, I think the American people now knows that to be the case. They also resent the media gaslighting.
The only gaslighting being done is by Trump and his team
 
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