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Leimonis

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And what is advocating against Putin while paying for his oil, gas and minerals? ROTFLMFAO!!!
It’s not perfect but sure beats what trump the traitor proposed
 

Valcazar

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I am not saying Ukraine had to surrender you dimwit. I am saying that just like you are proposing the impractical scenario that Russia just admit defeat and withdraw, it is as impractical to say that Ukraine just lay down their arms and surrender. Both would mean that the war comes to an immediate end. Both wont happen. Do you not know how to read between the lines? Or does your reading between the lines only extend to dishonestly spinning and misinterpreting someone's words ? In fact you deliberately ignored my next two lines:

None of those options where one side just "gives up" is possible now. A compromise through dialogue where both come out "looking good" is the only way this will end.

Have some integrity when you debate.
You know what?
There is an "also" there, so I will accept that's what you meant.
Just because you've been calling on them to surrender since the beginning doesn't mean I shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt here.

I am not blaming US and NATO for eeeeeeverything. I am blaming them for THIS war. And the other invasions, regime changes and misadventures they have engaged in and participated in worldwide.
Yes. We know.
And you feel the evil doers must be punished, and if you have to root for Russia to kill a lot of Ukrainians to accomplish that, you are fine with it.
 
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Valcazar

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No if the interference is from Ukraine we wont. Such is the nature of wartime propaganda. Tell me ONE mainstream media outlet that talks about Ukrainian losses. Surely they have suffered losses. Where are the numbers? Not ONE of them will say anything except for saying shit like "Russia is suffering 7 times more.."? Really? If you couldn't even speak to Ukraine's numbers how did you know how much Russia's losses were? Its all nonsense.
I haven't seen anyone doing the "7-times more" thing since the early battles when people could get at some numbers.

Outside of that, I either see no reports on losses on either side or "these are estimates" and where they come from.

Mind you, I don't watch most MSM so maybe they are saying such stupid things.

It's irrelevant though - you may not see it on your mainstream propaganda, but that's not the whole news or information ecosystem.
 

Valcazar

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Of course Ukraine "insists". We should immediately believe them because we are supposed to be on their side.
What a stupid idea.
Why would you be so gullible?
I am saying that there is no reason to take the US denial any differently from the Ukrainian one.
 

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I haven't seen anyone doing the "7-times more" thing since the early battles when people could get at some numbers.
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Of course that hasn't stopped him from blindly accepting Ukrainian casualty numbers from Russia's MOD.
 

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