They didn't obtain info from Russian intelligence, they hired spies to spy ON Russian intelligence.
Trump's team dealt directly with Russian intelligence, the dossier hired moles to spy on the people Trump was talking with.
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Trump's team dealt directly with Russian intelligence, the dossier hired moles to spy on the people Trump was talking with.
No. You are wrong. Steele supposedly had connections within the FSB. You can't seriously think information on at that point the GOP nominee wasn't being watched and constantly updated by higher ups do you?
Supposedly Steele had access. But I find it difficult to believe people in the FSB would risk their lives for this. I think he, if did indeed get information was duped.
That's why only the fact meetings took place but no content has been verified. And the press wouldn't touch it. And still won't discuss things. Because they know it's a nothing burger.
Yup. And when the Democrats were making baseless accusations against Trump for this type of "collusion," they said it amounted to treason.
So the question is: Will those same Democrats now be seeking to have Hillary Clinton charged with treason?
http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/why-doesnt-hillarys-dossier-trick-count-as-treason/
He had connections within the FSB that spied on the FSB.
That's why Steele hid for his life when the dossier became public.
And it appears his contacts were actually killed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...b-chief-linked-mi6-spys-dossier-donald-trump/
Trump is the one under investigation for collusion to cheat the election with the aid of Russians.
He and his team are the ones under the investigation of the FBI.
The Coming Russia Bombshells
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-russia-bombshells-1509059214
https://archive.is/zsM9C
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-coming-russia-bombshells-1509059214
https://archive.is/zsM9C
No more than if you obtained it from the Public Library. Neither the source of the information nor the purpose you obtained it for makes it collusion, it's the secret or illegal agreement or co-operation. So hiring a spy to steal/buy/trick/blackmail info from Russians counts as OK, but agreeing to a secret meeting they set up to give it to you, is not OK. It's collusion.
collusion noun: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
•Law
illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.
They stand to be really good, true.
We know that Clinton's team paid for some of the dossier, but we're waiting to see who among the republicans paid for it at the start.
That should be fun.
True, finding out who else was paying Fusion GPS is going to open a lot of eyes.
But paying a foreigner to conduct "opposition research" and then not disclosing that in your FEC filings is illegal.
Remember, Fusion GPS didn't bring in the foreigner until after the Democrats took over.
Christopher Steele was a Brit.
There's nothing wrong with hiring a Brit to do research on possible treasonous connections with a politician.
52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121
(a) Prohibition It shall be unlawful for—
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
I'm sure that everything connected to the Steele dossier was completely above board. :biggrin1: That would surely explain why Hillary and her supporters have repeatedly been lying about the dossier and the fact that they were the ones who paid for it.
Follow the money: The Trump "collusion" story is fake news that was fabricated by the Clinton campaign.
Follow the money: The Trump "collusion" story is fake news that was fabricated by the Clinton campaign.
Washington Free Beacon was the original source to hire Fusion Gps.....
Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon
Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.
Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief
Michael Goldfarb
Chairman
balls back to you dems
Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon
Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.
Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief
Michael Goldfarb
Chairman
balls back to you dems
So you think its only wrong when dems fund opposition research?Washington Free Beacon was the original source to hire Fusion Gps.....
Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon
Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.
Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.
Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief
Michael Goldfarb
Chairman
balls back to you dems
Its ok when Singer did it but not dems?
First Mueller charges are coming on Monday.
The dossier has done its work.
nope I'm equal opportunity when it comes to oppo research. and thats all the Washington Free Beacon was doing. Singers donations stopped when Trump had clinched primary nomination.
up to that point it WAS simply oppo research on Trump and other running mates. Then the dems and Clinton continue to fund it and weaponize it with false foreign intel.
Thats great Mueller finally has an indictment. bye bye Manaforte. he might cut a deal. as he worked for Trump AND the Podesta group and russians so we shall see. Flynn is my second choice. none of this implicates Trump in any way so far but we shall see.
Don't know about you, but I would LOVE to have answers one way or the other. I've heard the left go on about this for so long it's refreshing to see the tables turn and get a different perspective lol
Think you will find that the charges are about financial reporting and lobbying. I'm assuming it's Manafort and/or Flynn.
Doubt Trump or the campaign will even be mentioned
Why lie about meeting the Russians or about what was to be discussed?
Again, because you have that right, your answer may stir up expensive doo-doo you'd rather avoid and you cannot be compelled to go there. Which does NOT mean you did anything criminal, treasonous or even actionable. Why do you keep asking these same questions which inevitably get the same answers? If you don't get it, ask a different one.
Or make your point. But try to base it on facts, not inferences you want to draw from silence.
Right.....because no one else has speculated as to Trump's guilt here.........
I can speculate about motives as well as anyone. And taking the Fifth can be considered as near proof of someone thinking they did something criminal.
The Trumps have cooperated. Fully. Not so much Fusion.
