Not sure what the "greatest country" is, however there is no doubt that the coolest country to live in would be Chile.
Which country should be most proudest of its history?
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North America was made in Europe, that's something you can't ignore. I don't know any European that wants to learn to read and write backwards. Nowadays, Europe is considerd to be west with North and South America.
ROFLMAO, looks like money laundering...make the money "Kosher".
Makes you wonder why many would want to be the suckas and try to take advantage on RMB ascension.
Moreover it looks like those loaded folks want to ensure their young ones are NOT going to inherit their bad DNA and learn the best from the WASPs, so it seems.
BTW, funny to notice there is no recollection that the mainland Chinese demand or pay top dollar to retrieve their national treasures in the British Museum, stolen and looted by the Brits since the 1840s.
Huh? In your mind did history start in 1940?
And what kind of question is this? For a nation like Japan that was isolated for most of its history, are they entitled to be proud of their internal military history, of the Samurai, and the associated wars? How about China in the warring states era, which produced such things as the Art of War?
Or does it only count if your nation rampaged around the world in the modern era, defeating far flung enemies?
Would Ghengis Khan count? Would he count as Chinese, given the subsequent integration of his empire into China?
Where's Saladin on this list? Why is it dominated by modern era Europeans?
I voted France because that's the most ridiculous option on a ridiculous poll.
this is eurocentric education. everything starts and ends with europe in the public education system and we wonder why some folks want an africentric school
Not wanting to comit a hi-jack and turn this into another silly thread on Religion, but this was so easy;
How about some near contemporary historians of some notoriety. Read them slowly, if it helps you.
Exhibit A: Cornelius Tacitus
Cornelius Tacitus (A.D. 55-120) has been called the “greatest historian” of ancient Rome. Two of his most lauded works are The Annuals and The Histories. When he wrote of the reign of Nero he alludes to the death of Christ and to the existence of Christians in Rome, he said:
But not all the relief that could come from man, not all the boundaries that the prince could bestow, nor all the atonements which could be presented to the gods, availed to relieve Nero from the infamy of being believed to have ordered the conflagration, the fire of Rome. Hence to suppress the rumor, he falsely charged with the guilt and punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, (Annals XV, 44).
Here he didn’t claim or state anything that would be deemed miraculous. He stated the facts as he knew them about Jesus’ crucifixion.
Exhibit B: Lucian of Samosata
Lucian was a Greek satirist who wrote during the 2nd half of the second century. While speaking scornfully of Christ and the Christians he never argued or assumed they were unreal. He said:
The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day – the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account…. You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property, (Lucian, The Death of Peregrine, 11-13).
Exhibit C: Suetonius
Another Roman historian was Suetonius who was the annalist of the Imperial House and a court official under Hadrian. He stated:
As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (another spelling of Christus which was one way Christ was commonly misspelled by Roman writers), he (Claudius) was expelled them from Rome, (“Divus Claudius,” The Twelve Caesars, pg. 195).
At that time Christians were still seen as a sect of Judaism by the Roman empire. There is no reference that Christ didn’t exist or was made up, but actually credited him that those who followed his teaching were “making constant disturbances.” This event took place in A.D. 49 and Luke makes reference of this in Acts, “And he found a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to leave Rome,” (Acts 18:2, ESV).
Exhibit D: Pliny the Younger
Gaius Plinius Caecilius Secundus or better known as Pliny the Younger (AD 61-112) was Governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor (modern day Turkey). He wrote the Roman Emporer Trajan seeking counsel on how to treat the Christians since he was putting so many to death. He asked if he should continue to kill all Christians or only certain ones.
He explained that he made Christians bow down to statues of Trajan, and would make them “curse Christ, which it is said a bona fide Christians cannot be induced to do.” He also spoke of in the same letter of those being tried:
But they declared their guilt or error was simply this — on a fixed day they used to meet before dawn and recite a hymn among themselves to Christ, as though he were a god. So far from binding themselves by oath to commit any crime, they swore to keep from theft, robbery, adultery, breach of faith, and not to deny any trust money deposited with them when called upon to deliver it, (Epistles, X, 96).
Wanna know the common denominator for these sources? The persons in question are all lighter skin tone, not darker one in Africa that CM has fixation on. :wink:
Well many weren't christians and yet a little more homework and there may be some references from them southern folk or perhaps even eastern empires, you never know, but CM is really not worth it.
Let's eliminate countries from the list.
U.S.A. Only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in war, on a civilian population no less.
China, England, France, countries that are known to possess massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction.
Who is left ? Germany, Japan, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Canada.
Mexico is a failed state. They're out.
Germany & Japan, past aggressions and acts disqualify them
Remaining now, Italy, Spain, Canada.
For a combination of economic opportunity, citizen safety, and overall stability, Italy & Spain fall far short of Canada.
Winner.....Canada.
U.S.A. Only country in the world to use nuclear weapons in war, on a civilian population no less.
China, England, France, countries that are known to possess massive quantities of weapons of mass destruction.
Who is left ? Germany, Japan, Italy, Spain, Mexico, Canada.
Mexico is a failed state. They're out.
Germany & Japan, past aggressions and acts disqualify them
Remaining now, Italy, Spain, Canada.
For a combination of economic opportunity, citizen safety, and overall stability, Italy & Spain fall far short of Canada.
Winner.....Canada.
