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Will the C's be toppled by a L/N+B coalition?

Will the Conservative government fall soon?

  • Yes, it will be replaced by a coalition

    Votes: 22 38.6%
  • Yes, but there will be a general election

    Votes: 10 17.5%
  • No

    Votes: 25 43.9%

  • Total voters
    57

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Although Flaherty and Harper have backed down from some of the more controversial measures in the "economic update" and are beginning to relent on the issue of providing a stimulus the Opposition still seems to be talking about defeating the government and forming a coalition.

Will they?
 

gramage

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I vote no despite my hope for it and belief that coalitions are about to become the norm in Canadian politics. I don't think jack Layton will commit to one because a) I think he feels his party is superior to the Liberals and I that he will not compromise his positions to there's. and b) the people who support the NDP would in large part feel betrayed by any compromisehe did make (other then me voting anti-Bob Rae, you don't vote NDP to win, you vote for your beliefs) and abandon him next election.

There will be no offer on the table that Layton can take.
 

nottyboi

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iamme said:
The CONservatives have taken to (allegedly) secretly recording the opposition parties on Parliament Hill. For that reason alone, they have to go.

Yes I am pretty sure that is a criminal act. From 24 Sussex to prison with you Harpo. What a scumbag. I don't see why there is anything wrong with Layton putting contingency plans into place. They knew Harper would try something at some point, it was very prudent to be ready.
 

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I'd say this is hard to believe, but the PM has tapes of Layton on his myspace page with no explanation how he got the recordings.

I honestly believed I could not have a lower opinion of our PM. Unless he comes up with a miracle of an explanation he will have proven me wrong.
 

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gramage said:
I'd say this is hard to believe, but the PM has tapes of Layton on his myspace page with no explanation how he got the recordings.

I honestly believed I could not have a lower opinion of our PM. Unless he comes up with a miracle of an explanation he will have proven me wrong.
Unbelievable, there is an MP3 file on the conservative website, which has the
heading: "Harper Leadership 2008".

Some frigging leadership.
 
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nottyboi said:
Yes I am pretty sure that is a criminal act. From 24 Sussex to prison with you Harpo. What a scumbag.
Maybe you can score a spot on the jury or do you propose we skip right to the beheading on the steps of Parliament?

What, no Gomery for the Tories?

LMAO. Too funny
 

gramage

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lookingforitallthetime said:
Maybe you can score a spot on the jury or do you propose we skip right to the beheading on the steps of Parliament?

What, no Gomery for the Tories?

LMAO. Too funny
He said "pretty sure" and your accusing him of going straght to conviction? thats whats funny.

That you initial reaction to this appearing is to attack the appalled, also funny, but less so.
 
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gramage said:
I'd say this is hard to believe, but the PM has tapes of Layton on his myspace page with no explanation how he got the recordings.

I honestly believed I could not have a lower opinion of our PM. Unless he comes up with a miracle of an explanation he will have proven me wrong.

I'm sure Harper was only trying to get a tape of Jack and Olivia together.

I hear she's a screamer.
 
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gramage said:
He said "pretty sure" and your accusing him of going straght to conviction? thats whats funny.

That you initial reaction to this appearing is to attack the appalled, also funny, but less so.
Please, nice try.

He said he was "pretty sure" it was a criminal act. His next sentence was "From 24 Sussex to prison with you Harpo". The next sentence: "What a scumbag". Seriously, try to follow along gramage. In dottyboi's feeble little mind Harper is already guilty. Trust me on this, he is preparing the noose.

My initial reaction was to wait and see what transpires. I'm not "attacking the appalled", I'm attacking the idiot who is too biased to realize this is the correct reaction.

If Harper is found to be guilty, he will lose my vote.
 

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lookingforitallthetime said:
If Harper is found to be guilty, he will lose my vote.
Will you admit that it is pretty unlikely the NDP caucus gave permission to
tape their conference call and publish the tape?
 

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The CONservatives have taken to (allegedly) secretly recording the opposition parties on Parliament Hill. For that reason alone, they have to go.
And that Layton is on the same tape saying that he'll try anything to bring down the Government is fine?
 
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danmand said:
Will you admit that it is pretty unlikely the NDP caucus gave permission to
tape their conference call and publish the tape?
I'm not making any assumtions one way or another.

It's the right approach, don't you think?
 

danmand

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lookingforitallthetime said:
I'm not making any assumtions one way or another.

It's the right approach, don't you think?


I think the better approach is to be sceptical (of all politicians and all authority).

I guess we will have to wait for a tape of mr. Harper raping a nun on the front steps
of Notre-Dame Basilica for you to question his behaviour.
 
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danmand said:
I guess we will have to wait for a tape of mr. Harper raping a nun on the front steps
of Notre-Dame Basilica for you to question his behaviour.
danmand, you're becoming obtuse.

Look, it's not complicated. I'm going to wait and see before I make any assumptions.
 

danmand

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lookingforitallthetime said:
danmand, you're becoming obtuse.

Look, it's not complicated. I'm going to wait and see before I make any assumptions.
My advice to you from an oldtimer to a youngster is to be sceptical of all politicians and all authority.
 

gramage

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refusing to entertain suspicions when hit in the face with suspicious behaviour is how people get away with crimes. Harper having these tapes is incredibly suspicious, not admitting it doesn't make sense or serve a logical purpose. There is a fundamental difference between assuming guilt and finding behaviour questionable (except on Fox news, but they do this deliberately for partisan reasons.)
 
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danmand said:
My advice to you from an oldtimer to a youngster is to be sceptical of all politicians and all authority.
Thank you, I am.

Trust me on this, I look forward to hearing Harper's explanation.
 
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gramage said:
refusing to entertain suspicions when hit in the face with suspicious behaviour is how people get away with crimes. Harper having these tapes is incredibly suspicious, not admitting it doesn't make sense or serve a logical purpose. There is a fundamental difference between assuming guilt and finding behaviour questionable (except on Fox news, but they do this deliberately for partisan reasons.)
gramage, have you been drinking?

I admit it's suspicious behavier and I assume authorities are looking into it further. However, since I'm NOT A FREAKIN INVESTIGATOR, I don't have to "entertain suspicians". I can wait and see what the case is against Harper.

Yes, the actions are questionable. If it turns out Harper is involved in wiretapping, I will be the first to demand his resignation and that he be criminally charged.

It goes without saying he will also lose my vote.
 

nottyboi

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lookingforitallthetime said:
I'm sure Harper was only trying to get a tape of Jack and Olivia together.

I hear she's a screamer.

The image of that has rendered me impotent indefinitely.....:eek:
 
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