Will the C's be toppled by a L/N+B coalition?

[lookingforitallthetime]

well at least that is legal.

We don't know yet if Harper did anything illegal.

Put your pitchfork and torch away for now.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Stephen missed his chance to nail those bastards a good one.

I agree. If he stuck to his guns he wins no matter what the opposition does.

 

[red]

We don't know yet if Harper did anything illegal.

Put your pitchfork and torch away for now.

It was wrong. A canadian gov't spying and recording opposition political parties. its shameful.

 

[chiller_boy]

Although Flaherty and Harper have backed down from some of the more controversial measures in the "economic update" and are beginning to relent on the issue of providing a stimulus the Opposition still seems to be talking about defeating the government and forming a coalition.

Will they?

Well, if they defeat the government with a non confidence vote there are three possibilities:

(a) a coalition with the libs in charge(sort of). I think they would have to jettison Dion, some way or at some point for this to occur. The man was soundly defeated and none of his election ideas would be proffered.
(b) a new election. Nobody wants this.
(c) Michele tells Harper to govern the way a minority government should govern and change the offending legislation to an acceptable state. I think this is what Ignatieff wants. The libs then look at the polls and decide what to do. This may even happen before the budget is proposed.

Harper really screwed this up and if the canadian people gravitate to that view I think he is toast. The economy on the verge of collapse and he chooses a power play rather than economic stimulus. From what i have read in the papers that seems a near universal view of the media.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

It was wrong. A canadian gov't spying and recording opposition political parties. its shameful.

red, we don't know the whole story yet.

If it turns out your assumptions are correct, I will be grabbing my torch and joining you.

 

[danmand]

this morning on the news they were talking about the infighting all weekend in the libweenie ranks as to who would lead the coalition of the damned.

Plus there is some butthole twitching being displayed by some libs as they have now started to think that what the hell would happen if the GG said no to the coalition and sends us to the polls again. Some libs are clever enough to realize that the optics of such a putdown would not be a positive for them in the campaign.

i think that Harper should have stood his ground with the opposition. He had them in the perfect box and let them ooze out. that was a tactical error on his part. The opposition would have backed down eventually. They are mainly spineless libs and blockheads. The blockheads being from kwebek are all bark no bite. froggy always runs when the going gets tough and the dippers don't have a clue what to think.

Stephen missed his chance to nail those bastards a good one.

Se Canadian stuff can be just as rivetiing as your American pols.

Sjeeezzzz, Lancslad, you are not going to spin this into a victory
for the conservatives.

As a backroom operator for the conservatives, how did you get your
PM into such a quagmire?

 

[LancsLad]

Sjeeezzzz, Lancslad, you are not going to spin this into a victory
for the conservatives.

As a backroom operator for the conservatives, how did you get your
PM into such a quagmire?

I am not a "backroom operator".. If by chance I was to hold any real power, things would be noticably different in this country. Thats not the case yet but perhaps in due time we will be fortunate enough to have my level headed, sensitive and caring style of rule in place.



Steve dug this hole ALL by himself.


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[landscaper]

The conservatives screwed this one up big. When thewy took the step to kill financing they should have stood their ground. If they got defeated so be it . The opposition would have to defend killing an elected govt from total self interest. Now that he has stepped down there is no credibility on his part for much of what he says for quite a while, hw backed down for his own self interest

The liberals have a major problem, they want government so bad they would do a goat on parliment hill, but the party is in so many pieces right now that they cant decide on who gets the keys to Sussex dr. The bulk of the party wants an interim leader until such time as the leadership contest , the don't suddenly want Prime Minister Dion to throw his hat back into the ring and none of the others can see anybody but him in the P.M. slot, most want a neutral party to run things , with 3 or 4 hands up his but telling the country what the liberals want them to hear.

The taped phone conversation is just that a taped phone conversation, it has no status as per a caucus meeting on the hill, if it was taped illegally get the police in and investigate. The big problem for all the investigative types is if the contents were revealed in the house it has immunity from prosecution. If in fact the NDP invited a conservative staffer to the party do you really want these idiots in power?

 

[danmand]

I am not a "backroom operator".. If by chance I was to hold any real power, things would be noticably different in this country. Thats not the case yet but perhaps in due time we will be fortunate enough to have my level headed, sensitive and caring style of rule in place.

Steve dug this hole ALL by himself.

The rats are jumping ship already, i see.

 

[LancsLad]

This has been discussed before.

I believe that the law in Canada is such that a telephone conversation may be taped, without disclosing that it is being taped, so long as one of the parties to the conversation gives their consent.


Let's ask the Boards legal eagles to comment rather that engage in speculation.


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[danmand]

before.This has been discussed
I believe that the law in Canada is such that a telephone conversation may be taped, without disclosing that it is being taped, so long as one of the parties to the conversation gives their consent.


Let's ask the Boards legal eagles to comment rather that engage in speculation.

Why in the world did you not get a legal opinion before you put it
on the conservatives' website?

 

[landscaper]

This has been discussed before.

I believe that the law in Canada is such that a telephone conversation may be taped, without disclosing that it is being taped, so long as one of the parties to the conversation gives their consent.


Let's ask the Boards legal eagles to comment rather that engage in speculation.


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Let me get this straight ...... you want these board members to not engage in speculation? It is the christmas season but i think that wish is just a little bit to much even for Santa Claus

 

[LancsLad]

Why in the world did you not get a legal opinion before you put it
on the conservatives' website?

Attention:

*******Danes lacking cognitive skills please note.*********


I DO NOT have any control over what the Conservative Party posts on their web site.

If i did have any power and control within the Party, you would soon notice plenty of change.




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[red]

This has been discussed before.

I believe that the law in Canada is such that a telephone conversation may be taped, without disclosing that it is being taped, so long as one of the parties to the conversation gives their consent.


Let's ask the Boards legal eagles to comment rather that engage in speculation.


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I don't think the conservative party of canada was a party to the internal conference call of the ndp. thats a bit of a stretch wouldn't you think?

 

[landscaper]

I don't think the conservative party of canada was a party to the internal conference call of the ndp. thats a bit of a stretch wouldn't you think?

Yes I personally would think it is a stretch but that is apparantly what happened, a conservative staffer was on the distribution list for the information. They tuned in and voila shit flies.

 

[fuji]

Yes I personally would think it is a stretch but that is apparantly what happened, a conservative staffer was on the distribution list for the information. They tuned in and voila shit flies.

I'm still not sure where the "shit" is supposed to be. Layton has been saying for ages that he opposes what the government is doing. that he's out there planning to do what he said he would do is hardly a criticism of him.

 

[landscaper]

The shit in this case is Layton and company accusing the Tories of illegal activities. If indeed the story turns out that the liberals and the Ndp have been in discussion with the Bloc for a long period of time it puts paid to the outrage at the economic statement.

 

[fuji]

The shit in this case is Layton and company accusing the Tories of illegal activities. If indeed the story turns out that the liberals and the Ndp have been in discussion with the Bloc for a long period of time it puts paid to the outrage at the economic statement.

Maybe this is not too different than the way Stephan Harper said in 2004 that he had for a long time been in close consultation with the NDP and the Bloc? He put that in a letter he signed and delivered to the Governor General--or do you think he was lying?

 

[LancsLad]

I don't think the conservative party of canada was a party to the internal conference call of the ndp. thats a bit of a stretch wouldn't you think?

If they called him, he's free to tape it.

Gotta love glitches.



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[LancsLad]

With all due respect, why are you compelled to pledge your
loyalty to any specific political party? A pox on all their houses.

The fastest growing political group in the US are independents.

You should try to join that party.

I am not compelled in any way. See the thread where i told the Conservative fundraiser to shove it where the sun don't shine when they called me last week.


I just hope that one day we come to our senses as Tories and remember what we stand for.

one stands or falls on their principles, not public opinion polls.



Maybe I whould start my new party.



All " POT's" thats Pissed Off Taxpayers feel free to join me. Even though i am not a practicing member of the 420 crowd I would like to be the inaugural POThead. now thats a catchy slogan.


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