With no career prospects and a pile of student debt, I thought prostitution was...

[explorerzip]

Getting rid of grade 13 was a wonderful thing. Every kid in Canada except those living in Ontario had to be in school a year longer than everybody else. A complete waste of time. If kids in every other province in Canada and across the world can complete highschool up to grade 12 or less, so can Ontario's kids. Harris knew how to govern.

Except that when Harris killed grade 13, we had a double cohort of grads trying to get into university. I also think they cut grade 13 in one academic year instead of phasing it over a number of years, thus causing the double cohort. I think had to increase funding to the colleges and universities to handle the load. We might have saved some taxes, but we spent the savings to deal with the double cohort.

I seem to recall that we had a choice of graduating in 4 or 5 years regardless if we were going to college or university. As far as I remember grade 13 was optional, but most took it anyway. It seems to me that if there's 4 years of high school, you have to a clear plan with what career you want to pursue starting at grade 7 or 8. I had no idea what I wanted to do at that age, so I'm guessing that most kids are still like that. The school system and guidance councillors are useless so I'm not sure how a grade 7 kid would have the decision making skills to pick the required courses needed in high school and then for university or college.

I'm wondering if it would be useful to have a mandatory year off between high school and college / university so the students and parents has time to reflect on what they want to do before making the big investment.

 

[D-Fens]

I don't know, Mr. D. Fens: who can say what any of us will be doing in the future? I think that Matt Roxx is closer to the mark. When I lived in Europe, it was considered normal for older, married men to see younger ladies in brothels (but not for younger men, who were supposed to be starting families and careers. Unlike North America where young men live in their parents' basements and do what with their money? Smoke dope? Hang out with hookers?). As for how MPAs feel about their clients, I think all of the men on this board, me included, should defer to MPA Squared. She surely knows a lot more about the inside workings of a parlour, and the mentality of the girls than we could ever hope to.

You've been watching Breaking Bad too much, not every young man is like Jesse Pinkman. We don't all smoke dope hang out with hookers and call everyone "bitch" Many of us are normal responsible adults many of which got dealt a bad hand thanks to the economy and other things. If a 20 something is still living in their parent's basement, chances are it is not by choice. The economy sucks and good paying jobs are scarce.

Starting a career and a family, yeah let's ask how well that went for the droves of men who work 60 hours a week in soul crushing jobs only to get burned in family court have to pay alimony and are now weekend dads.

I know full well what life can throw at a person. I'm not saying married guys shouldn't be allowed to hobby, I just don't agree with it that's all. and for me if I was stuck in a bad marriage, I don't think hobbying would help. That's just me. I don't know if I will get married or even have kids. I don't know if that life is for me and as time goes on, I become more and more convinced that sort of lifestyle is a joke. i doubt i will be hobbying when I am in my 50s and even if I am it won't be that much. Even if I don't meet someone I will have gotton bored of it. as a a matter of fact, I have already started to hobby less then before. I have more disposable income now then I did when I was younger, and yet my hobbying has gone down as other things take up my life. This hobby can be extremely self destructive if left unchecked it can turn into something like a coke addiction if you are not careful. I don't want to be one of those guys. I see a lot of hobbyists on here on are literally just addicts bragging about their addictions.

 

[D-Fens]

To the contrary, I hope D-Fens is not hanging around these parts 30 years from now. I hope he's found his soulmate and that they're still havin crazy monkey sex after all those years. We all want to be happy.

The young tend to judge because they haven't had enough life experience to gain perspective. It's not about settling. It's about playing with the cards life's deals you. Maybe your wife develops complications from childbirth and can't be intimate with you. Maybe your best friend and his wife passes away and leaves their three small children in your care so you have no time to date. Maybe you just married the wrong woman and your life goes sideways for a few years.

Keep in mind also, D-Fens, you might see hookers when you're young because you're horny. But when you're older, it's more likely that it will be because you're lonely. Are you sure you can predict that?

We can play the "what if" game all day. None of us know what will happen in the future. I'd just be very surprised if I am still hobbying 20-30 years from now. The person I am now is going to be very different from the person I am in 2044. (Anyone seen the movie Looper? I am fascinated by the idea of meeting my future self) My circumstances are most likely going to be very different.

You guys started in your 50s, I stated in my 20s let's say in the future scientists were able to find a way to make people live longer. Let's assume at 70-80 years old you can have a good sex life and you are physically capable of going to sps and having a good time. Do you really think you will still be hobbying then? maybe you will but maybe not as much as you use to? Do you ever think at all, you will have gotton bored of it by then or have developed other interests? I don't think it's overly idealistic to assume that at my 50s I will have other stuff going on my life that I won't care about hobbying that much. I've already had more sexual encounters then most average guys (who don't hobby and don't get laid that much) probably ever will. Do you ever think this will eventually get old?

 

[Gyaos]

But I’m done with prostitution. Its costs outweighed its benefits.

P.S.: But she paid off dem loans!

Gyaos.

 

[TeasePlease]

We can play the "what if" game all day. None of us know what will happen in the future. I'd just be very surprised if I am still hobbying 20-30 years from now. The person I am now is going to be very different from the person I am in 2044. (Anyone seen the movie Looper? I am fascinated by the idea of meeting my future self) My circumstances are most likely going to be very different.

You guys started in your 50s, I stated in my 20s let's say in the future scientists were able to find a way to make people live longer. Let's assume at 70-80 years old you can have a good sex life and you are physically capable of going to sps and having a good time. Do you really think you will still be hobbying then? maybe you will but maybe not as much as you use to? Do you ever think at all, you will have gotton bored of it by then or have developed other interests? I don't think it's overly idealistic to assume that at my 50s I will have other stuff going on my life that I won't care about hobbying that much. I've already had more sexual encounters then most average guys (who don't hobby and don't get laid that much) probably ever will. Do you ever think this will eventually get old?

"None of us will know what happen in the future." Indeed! I think I see what you mean, and I actually agree with you.

It does get old. I got bored after about 6 years, and stopped at around 8 years. I was a massage guy. I wasn't interested interested in escalating mileage or doing more (not with MPAs or SPs anyways).

I also found hobbies (real hobbies! lol) that amused me a lot more (but have been worse for my bank account). There IS life after pooning!

 

[Lily Divine]

100% disagree. Most girls feel uncomfy when he is in the same age bracket, their peers of sorts. Not only does the younger guy lack the skills an older man has, but often the younger guys are cocky/trying to get ur #/act like ur her gift for the day. Meanwhile, she can't wait for her calm, married, sensual, orgasmically skilled 50-something regular to arrive.

I know when I was younger I certainly felt this way. I found those who were closer to my own age would get too close as well. It was rather disconcerting.

Got to love those older gents though. They certainly made me smile more than a few times as a early 20's girl.

Lmao. Most providers have a significant other too. His cheating isn't my moral decision to judge. In fact, I know 1st hand what many married folks of any age endure...I was in a sexless relationship myself for a decade, men are lucky they have hobbying to use as a crutch. For the record, ive yet to meet a 20-something who has the skills to make me cum like that of a man with twice his life experience.

Finally I have had the pleasure of meeting a few. I certainly didn't meet them in my early 20's. I think the ones who put the effort in are not the ones focused on the early 20's women if that makes sense.


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As for the original article. It is a fairly accurate representation of how many get into the industry. I personally never experienced the "interview" but I know of a few who have claimed to.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Getting rid of grade 13 was a wonderful thing. Every kid in Canada except those living in Ontario had to be in school a year longer than everybody else. A complete waste of time. If kids in every other province in Canada and across the world can complete highschool up to grade 12 or less, so can Ontario's kids. Harris knew how to govern.

Amen to Mike Harris, the only politician I know of (besides Rob Ford but to a lesser degree) who delivered on his campaign promise and didn't waiver.

Back to the topic at hand though, I agree with what TeasePlease says in post #74.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Mr. D. Fens: you raise some very good points, particularly as concerns the plight of the North American family man. Yes, his life is largely a joke, a wife who bullies him, a school system that teaches his children that he is a rapist, a job that degrades him, etc., etc. However, I was strictly speaking of family arrangements within a European context. When I lived in Belgium, people many asserted that North American women were in charge of their society because the men refused to grow up. And regrettably, this is in many ways very true. The majority of North American husbands are afraid of their wives in a way that utterly baffles the European man. And when you assert that "hobbying" is not a panacea for a bad marriage, you make the ordinary assumption that men who see paid companions on the side are unhappy at home. This may be true, of course, but it is by no means a given (once again, I'm writing from the perspective of a European). I've been very happy with my (European) wife of thirty-five years. She knows full well that I see younger women when I feel like it, and only worries about it from the point of the outlay involved. And whatever else, I am absolutely the boss in my own house (or at least she lets me so believe). And the point of the marriage, from day one, was to raise a family. If I were young today, would I marry a girl from a Canadian suburb and settle down? Not in a million years. I'd sit in my parent's basement and smoke dope, probably. (And foe the record, when we were setting out, in Europe during the oil shocks, the economy was far worse than anything we have seen in Canada in recent decades).

Is it any wonder that a buddy of mine is disenchanted with Cdn women and hoping to find his traditional woman in Cuba? (I don't agree with him though).

 

[TeasePlease]

Mr. D. Fens: you raise some very good points, particularly as concerns the plight of the North American family man. Yes, his life is largely a joke, a wife who bullies him, a school system that teaches his children that he is a rapist, a job that degrades him, etc., etc. However, I was strictly speaking of family arrangements within a European context. When I lived in Belgium, people many asserted that North American women were in charge of their society because the men refused to grow up. And regrettably, this is in many ways very true. The majority of North American husbands are afraid of their wives in a way that utterly baffles the European man. And when you assert that "hobbying" is not a panacea for a bad marriage, you make the ordinary assumption that men who see paid companions on the side are unhappy at home. This may be true, of course, but it is by no means a given (once again, I'm writing from the perspective of a European). I've been very happy with my (European) wife of thirty-five years. She knows full well that I see younger women when I feel like it, and only worries about it from the point of the outlay involved. And whatever else, I am absolutely the boss in my own house (or at least she lets me so believe). And the point of the marriage, from day one, was to raise a family. If I were young today, would I marry a girl from a Canadian suburb and settle down? Not in a million years. I'd sit in my parent's basement and smoke dope, probably. (And foe the record, when we were setting out, in Europe during the oil shocks, the economy was far worse than anything we have seen in Canada in recent decades).

Damn. On the one hand, you have me fearful for the future of our society. On the other, I know what you say has some truth to it.

Guys being fearful of their women is a bad situation. There has to be respect, BOTH ways.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Damn. On the one hand, you have me fearful for the future of our society. On the other, I know what you say has some truth to it.

Guys being fearful of their women is a bad situation. There has to be respect, BOTH ways.

I have a friend who seems so pussy whipped. I think it will shorten his lifespan. Then again, she's a great cook and good mother. There's pluses and minuses when it comes to compromise.

 

[Volleyball58]

I just want to point a part of this article that I find disgusting.

"I had more than one guy take the services and then make some excuse about having left his wallet in the car and skip out without paying. You would be surprised how often this happens. I don’t know if it’s because they didn’t have the money, or because they didn’t feel they should have to pay, but it didn’t matter to me: I would be just as hungry that night."

If you're gonna hobby, pay the lady! Karma's a bitch.