Rob Fords Toronto: In His Own Words
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In yesterday's Toronto Sun, CFRB host Jerry Agar had a guest column that was quite interesting:
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/2010/08/16/15043046.html
I was particularly interested in this quote:
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/2010/08/16/15043046.html
I was particularly interested in this quote:
Put another way, George Smitherman and his fans may want to ease up on all the shots at the people planning to back Ford. Telling people you think they're stupid hasn't traditionally proven to be much of a vote-getter.
Pathetic? Because I dare to tell it like it is to the rest of the sheep that eat up garbage like ford with a spoon?
Hardly. Get a brain and try thinking for yourself.
Oh, and if you didn't notice...you are trying to debate politics on a escort review board. That should speak volumes.
Hardly. Get a brain and try thinking for yourself.
Oh, and if you didn't notice...you are trying to debate politics on a escort review board. That should speak volumes.
You might want to re-read what I posted in post #205, particularly the part that says telling people they're stupid hasn't traditionally proven to be much of a vote-getter.
It is one thing to get fucked by a politician, it is another thing entirely for you to hold your ass cheeks apart and spit on your own asshole for them. Because that is exactly what ford will do to toronto.
I'm done with this thread. I tried to quit before but the idiots kept coming like a tidal wave. They will keep coming, it is your nature.
I'm done with this thread. I tried to quit before but the idiots kept coming like a tidal wave. They will keep coming, it is your nature.
More here: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/torontomayoralrace/article/849313--ford-goes-on-the-defensive?bn=1
The whole immigration debate is a moot point anyways. Toronto mayor doesnt get to choose who can emigrate into Canada, and he certainly cant tell new immigrants in which cities they can or cannot settle. Right now its all political grandstanding from the opposition who are getting increasingly desperate
As is most of the issues up for debate. Under the council structure the mayor is no more powerful than any other counsillor in office; he's one vote out of 44. This isn't New York City where the mayor actually has power, here he's just a policy making figurehead. The only reason Miller's policies got such momentum is because of the other trough-feeding idiots who keep getting voted in. You want real change, vote out Mosoce, McConnell, Perks, Vaughan and especialy Bussin and you'll see some real proper changes happen.
Until then the whole mayoral debate is abotu who wants to be the one infront of the camera, I mean the mayor doesnt even have the power to enforce his wishes on his own staff.
No, its not a moot point entirely. Toronto mayor obviously doesn't have power to limit immigration to Toronto, but he has a lot of influence on council, which in turn can cut taxes and services, and create an atmosphere that is less welcoming to immigrants.
Under Ford, it won't be 1 vote out of 44. It will be 1 vote in 22. The mayor has power to appoint committee heads. And with this power, he can influence how certain councilors vote on certain issues. I don't know much about NYC politics and the power of the mayor there may indeed dwarf the power of the mayor here, but the Toronto mayor certainly has a lot more power than one vote on council. If he didn't, there wouldn't be so many people so pissed off with Miller.
And to be honest is should be 22 and not 44, it's ridiculous that we that many councillors after amalgamation. There really is no need.
Still the mayor (even Miller) cannot really influence how a councillor can vote. That might be the perception but it’s not the case. As for appointing committee chairs, all they can do is make recommendations, it’s the office staff that can either make it a reality or sink it. There are cases of the mayors wishes being countermanded by staffers all the time.
The mayor in Toronto is really a figurehead, he announces policy decisions and hopes he can rally the support of council to try to enact them.
As for why so many people are pissed off with Miller, it’s because he is the figurehead, and most people are too ignorant to learn how our city government operates. I’m sure the bulk of Torontonians couldn’t tell me who their local councillor is let alone point them out from a picture.
It’s the same as with people pissed off with the President in the United States, yet it’s the Speaker of the House who really is the chief law maker in the land.
Miller only had some power because he was able to work with most councillors, even those with more centrist views. Will Rob Ford earn as much support?
A mayor needs to build some consensus across party lines, we might see him become more agreeable in order to get his ideas done. Will he be able to take on the unions?
I doubt it, I bet he'll want to give the cops a raise.
A mayor needs to build some consensus across party lines, we might see him become more agreeable in order to get his ideas done. Will he be able to take on the unions?
I doubt it, I bet he'll want to give the cops a raise.
How would he "lose interest" ???. What a moronic thing to say. Go vote for Smitherman you pussy.
Interesting that on an escort review board there's so much support for the candidate who's probably most likely to use whatever power he does have as mayor to try to stamp out the city's escort / MP industry.
Has Ford mentioned anything about prostitution in Toronto?? Cause I havent heard him say anything
It may not have come up as an election issue, but taking a hard line against the industry would seem consistent with Ford's family-values, law & order agenda.
i haven't heard any law and order agenda from him thats different from any other candidate?
