Rob Fords Toronto: In His Own Words
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Exactly what I was talking about.
I love how Smitherman and the Star keep on bring up things Rob said or did over the years. For example, he yelled at one of his players 10 years ago for throwing his helmet which is a big no-no in football. He used the word Oriental, probably should have said Asian but not so bad in my books. What, do we now have to refer to rugs from the Orient as "Asian rugs"? He said if you're not a homosexual and don't share needles you probably won't get AIDS, which #1 is a fact and #2 exactly what my doctor said. So he had a few too many at a hockey game, had an argument with his wife, etc. It's amazing that is all his opponents can come up with. Oh, I almost forgot the chicken suit, lame! He must have them really worried to be attacking him in that manner.
I don't care about that stuff, nor do I care that Smitherman had a 5 year addiction to illegal drugs. All I want is Ford to get this city back on track.
It will be interesting to see if it was a Toronto Star employee who tampered with his Wiki page the other day!
As I mentioned early in this thread, Stephen Lewis wrote a book review in the Globe and Mail two years ago that said pretty much the same thing.
it's not difficult to find many cases involving a man or woman infected with aids having unprotected sex with a member of the opposite sex without revealing that they have aids and end up transmitting it. in all those cases the victim was neither gay OR a needle user
here is a case reported just yesterday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sa-apologises-having-sex-telling-men-HIV.html
here is another possible way.
http://www.topnews.in/negligence-blood-transfusion-causing-aids-2253248
It sure ain't a quick read, but this now-famous 1996 article from the Wall Street Journal explored the deliberate campaign to try to convince people in the 1980s that everyone was at risk of getting AIDS:
http://www.libchrist.com/std/wsj.html
As the article states, it may be technically true that anyone can get AIDS. But AIDS remains "largely the scourge of gay men, intravenous drug users, their sex partners and their newborn children."
That was true when the article was written in 1996 and it's true today. These days, even Stephen Lewis and other advocates who used to think that type of thinking was bigoted now admit that's the case.
As the WSJ article points out, deliberate decisions were made in 1987 to scare the heterosexual population because that was the way to raise money to fight AIDS.
In cases where HIV is sexually transmitted, it isn't difficult to explain why it mostly affects gay men. When it comes to sexual transmission, HIV is mostly transmitted into another person's blood stream through unprotected anal sex. That's why it mostly affects gay men (who can only have intercourse through anal sex).
Lolll at this guy. How are you going to bring something from the 1990's here? I am talking about PRESENT DAY TORONTO. We do not want bike lanes. If you want exercise or are so in love with the environment get the fuck out of toronto and go to holland or somewhere in europe where they prance around on bikes. Bicycles are a liability on the road, no one passes them because everyone is too scared they are going to hit them. I bet you would love to get hit though wouldn't you? Just so you can make a claim with insurance to give you a nice lump sum for some horse shit fracture you make up?
You make more money then me? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Saying that you make more money or 'x' ammount of money on terb is like how in shawshank 'everyone's innocent'.
I'm still amazed by the anti-bike vitriol here.
I bike, and if I wasn't on my bike I'd be driving my car, making the roads more congested. So its better I'm on my bike isn't it?
Bike gets me places faster (I live and work downtown), costs less and keeps my beer gut in control.
But if you'd rather me and everyone else I know who could do either (and thats a reasonable chunk of the cyclists I know) get off our bikes and clog up the roads for you, I'm sure we could help you out.
I bike, and if I wasn't on my bike I'd be driving my car, making the roads more congested. So its better I'm on my bike isn't it?
Bike gets me places faster (I live and work downtown), costs less and keeps my beer gut in control.
But if you'd rather me and everyone else I know who could do either (and thats a reasonable chunk of the cyclists I know) get off our bikes and clog up the roads for you, I'm sure we could help you out.
The anti bike vitriol has a substantial basis in the actions of city council in Toronto. Thay activly put bicycle lanes in places that interupt car/truck traffic. Specifically to interupt that traffic. I am going to use the Jarvis st lanes as an example. There are bike lanes on Sherbourne that are basically unuses ( 100-200 trips per day). Council decided that bike lanes were required on JArvis st specifically because it is a major car route into and out of the city. Church or young streets would work better for bike lanes but were ignored specifically because they would not have the traffic impact that Jarvis would, University was a similar plan. A better plan would have been a bike lane on Young or church street that coneccted with Davenport north of Bloor and went west from there .
There are ways to connect the bike lanes and have cars move efficiently through the city but the activists on council have chosen to bring their agenda up to the front with no regard for the prime people mover which is and will be the car for the forseeable future.
There are ways to connect the bike lanes and have cars move efficiently through the city but the activists on council have chosen to bring their agenda up to the front with no regard for the prime people mover which is and will be the car for the forseeable future.
A earlier post questioned wether or notthe Star had been editing Fords Wikkipedia page and it turns out they have been a blogger tracked the IP address of the computer and it is owned by a star company in teh star building at 1 young, it should hit the papers etc in the morning. Should be interesting
You are truly what you represent on your sig pic eh? Some kind of dwarf/troll/mutant. Its unbelievable that assholes like you exist in PRESENT DAY TORONTO. If anything there are MORE cyclists in Toronto than there ever have been! If it was 380,000 in 1999, its easily 500,000 to 600,000 today.
And what is it with you thinking that every cyclist WANTS to be hit by a car? Are you a complete fucking moron? More likely I believe is that if you could, you would, if you could get away with it, run over every cyclist you saw. I'm also guessing, you'd probably also like to run over, every muslim, gay or lesbian, or "liberal" you could identify if you could. Your real issue has nothing to do with cyclists. Its just plain old hate of anyone different. I have to wonder what kind of pathetic upbringing would cause someone to hate people like that. Or maybe you've just been listening to the Rob Ford show a few too many times.
Just so you know, I do own a car, and yes, I actually drive more often for work than I bike because my work demands it. Because I both bike and drive to work, I'm pretty aware of both how car drivers behave around cyclists and vice versa. There are definitely cyclists who break the rules and endanger themselves and others in the way they ride. And it pisses me off just as much as the next guy when I see this either when I'm driving or biking. But I also see a very few people like yourself who would deliberately try to injure someone on a bike. Its fucking stupid.
I just find it sad that there are people in Canada like you that exist who have hatred and intolerance for anyone who thinks or acts differently. Its exactly the sort of thing this neo conservative movement has ingrained into people and its pretty disgusting.
Wow, you're a bigger asshole than I thought judging by the way you've handled yourself on this thread.
Rob Ford will win and be the new mayor of Toronto. Thank God. People of Toronto are loving his "fuck political correctness" attitude and saying what he really believes and what is reality. i.e. Letting in more immigrants to Toronto such as the Tamils. Pussy boy Smitherman does the typical old politician move saying let them in to Toronto , don't even think about the repercussions. Rob Ford says that reality is Toronto can't even handle it's own population right now so why are we letting in anyone? Not just Tamils. HE IS TOTALLY RIGHT. Infrastructure , etc. is a DISASTER in Toronto. Try getting from A to B around rushhour. Which actually starts around 3 pm now. That's how bad it's gotten.
ROB FORD WILL WIN BECAUSE HE IS NOT A PUSSY POLITICIAN LIKE THESE OTHER DONKEYS LICKING EVERYONE'S ASS WITH NICE COMMENTS THAT PLEASE EVERYONE!
ROB FORD WILL WIN BECAUSE HE IS NOT A PUSSY POLITICIAN LIKE THESE OTHER DONKEYS LICKING EVERYONE'S ASS WITH NICE COMMENTS THAT PLEASE EVERYONE!
I think you are confused. I have nothing against people who want to ride bikes, I do it myself. But stay on the sidewalk if you want to ride a bike, and I don't care if its illegal. No cop is going to hassle you for such a small thing. And whats with your racist insults at me? I'm not even white... I don't have a problem with muslims or any of the other people you listed. In fact, there was someone here on these forums with a racist signature championing an israeli soldier but degrading a palestinian which I reported.
I don't hate those who are different. Different is good. But I don't want bicycles on the roads. Get over yourself and stop being so emotional and hostile.
It's not anti-bike, it's anti-congestion.
Here's an example that I actually lived, didn't just 'hear about it'.
About a decade ago I lived in Calgary and one summer there was a transit strike. The doomsayers were predicting mass chaos in the downtown core because there would be no buses and many, many more cars.
Well, the reverse was true. Taking buses off the road actually helped traffic flow more smoothly. When buses run they take up the entire right-hand lane and traffic gets choked for city blocks behind the damn bus, effectively turning a two-lane road into a one lane road. Remove the buses and suddenly you've actually got two full lanes to keep traffic moving instead of just one.
That's what's going to happen with bike lanes too, and actually has happened in places where there are dedicated lanes. It reduces the amount of road space for cars, clogging up traffic to ensure that a one-person bicycle moves quicker than a one, two or three person car.
So it's nothing against bikes or their riders, it's against the congestion that has backed up lines and lines and lines of cars for one person on a bike. It just doesn't make sense.
It's about priorities. Right now the priority is how to get traffic moving. Bike lanes are not the solution because this is not China where everyone rides a bike. This is Toronto where cars rule the road. Until that changes, forget wasting money on bike lanes.
Yeah, but considering that we're just past peak oil and smack dab in the middle of major resource depletion, I expect the number of people who can't afford to run cars is only going up. Better get used to bikes.
And as far as traffic goes. I'll race you across downtown, bike vs car. Bet you I can beat you 4 of 5 times. If you're concerned about the speed of traffic, get your arse out of your car and try biking.
