The Sun was right to dig up that info on Ford. It is an indicator of his character, his judgement and his respect for the safety of those around him. The press finds things out about candidates and informs the voters. Do you think Ford would have admitted those misdeeds if the Sun hadn't done their homework? I'm not too concerned with the joint in his back pocket but the DUI is nothing to sneeze at. I don't know how old Ford is but 11 years ago he was plenty old enough to know better. He says he doesn't have a criminal record but he should have one. The fact that he was charged in Florida and ended up doing community service here in Canada means he escaped the criminal record on a jurisdictional technicality. If I did that here, I'd be a criminal.
Rob Fords Toronto: In His Own Words
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Yeah that's true.
However, you can bet Smitherman wouldn't have refused to blow! Someone had to say it. lol
The next mayor will probably be one of the most hated politicians in the country by the time the next( 41/2 years) hits. He has no money, a deficeit that some countries would default, unions with a sense of entitlement a politician would be proud of, city hall staff who could not manage a gang bang at a cat the day the fleet comes in with a basket of money and a herd of politicians who are entitled to what ever they want just because.
The next mayor is going to have to cut costs, hold the line of the contracts that will conveniently come up in the middle of HIS term ( not the guy who orchestrated them) . He is going to have to make the politicians a number of them who hate his guts do things his way and fire a number of senior beurocrats who just will not get it.
I really can not think of anybody who would want this mess.
Rocco Rossi, nice guy no name recognition one of the 3 major candidates who has actually worked outside politics points 1 and 2 will kill him
Pantalone , Miller light at best can not spend your money fast enough
Sarah Thompson, articulate ,succesfull, whats not to like? absolute novice at politics is going to be lucky to finish 5th in November should have run for a council seat first
George Smitherman, was planning to run for the mayor of toronto from about the time e-health was uncovered , did not want to be around for the provincial election with that and other trhings hanging around his neck. Currently not doing much beyond complaining and Ford . Not very well at that. Another spend it we can always beg for more later politician who by the way has a temper that can easily be as noticable as Fords.
Ford , noisey, obnoxious, not photogenic, an embarasment to council ( at least in the eyes of other councilors). Succesful businessman, makes a point of not spending money unless he has to. Is more than willing to tell you whats on his mind. Drinks to excess at times, has gotten into fights, has been known to yell at people. Coaches highschool football .
So just out of curiosity which of these people would you sentance to 4 years of hell?
The next mayor is going to have to cut costs, hold the line of the contracts that will conveniently come up in the middle of HIS term ( not the guy who orchestrated them) . He is going to have to make the politicians a number of them who hate his guts do things his way and fire a number of senior beurocrats who just will not get it.
I really can not think of anybody who would want this mess.
Rocco Rossi, nice guy no name recognition one of the 3 major candidates who has actually worked outside politics points 1 and 2 will kill him
Pantalone , Miller light at best can not spend your money fast enough
Sarah Thompson, articulate ,succesfull, whats not to like? absolute novice at politics is going to be lucky to finish 5th in November should have run for a council seat first
George Smitherman, was planning to run for the mayor of toronto from about the time e-health was uncovered , did not want to be around for the provincial election with that and other trhings hanging around his neck. Currently not doing much beyond complaining and Ford . Not very well at that. Another spend it we can always beg for more later politician who by the way has a temper that can easily be as noticable as Fords.
Ford , noisey, obnoxious, not photogenic, an embarasment to council ( at least in the eyes of other councilors). Succesful businessman, makes a point of not spending money unless he has to. Is more than willing to tell you whats on his mind. Drinks to excess at times, has gotten into fights, has been known to yell at people. Coaches highschool football .
So just out of curiosity which of these people would you sentance to 4 years of hell?
You've clearly not read a single thing I've written. I'm not debating politics with you, I'm debating the difference between facts/evidence and rumour/slander. You don't seem to get it. I don't give a rats ass if you don't like ford, but try debating using facts and logic rather than slander, lies and childish comments. You need to try some thinking..
You can provide the legal refernces for the technicality? Are you under the impression that the Sun went to florida and dug that up? or perhaps it was somebody with something to gain who provided the tip to the paper....
I really doubt anybody in this race has a perfectly clean record and I don't see all of them lining up to admit to what ever./
I was thinking about voting for Rossi, but he's running such a negative campaign. All of these people piling on Ford has just made me more likely to vote for him. I'd take him over Smitherman, that much I'm sure of.
If Tory was running, it'd be an easy choice for me.
If Tory was running, it'd be an easy choice for me.
I truly mean this as friendly advice, avoid statements like this, as your not only pointing fingers at your "opponents" , but yourself.
I think that's exatly what is happening . Kind of reminds me of what happend to Clinton actually, the more and more they went after him, the greater the support for him grew. ( Not saying Ford reminds me of Clinton, just has the same sort of "feel" to it)
Ford says he doesn't have a criminal record so I assume he's telling the truth. He's admitted to the DUI (failure to provide a breath sample or whatever) and he admitted that he got off with community service. He would not have gotten community service or any other sentence if he'd been found not guilty so I've deduced that he was convicted for a DUI type of offence which would result in a criminal record if the offence and conviction took place here. Since he claims he doesn't have a criminal record, I assume it's because he got busted in Florida and returned to Canada while his lawyer negotiated his community service punishment. I'm not really interested in the technical reasons why his Florida conviction failed to get him a criminal record. The point is that he should have a criminal record and it was LIKELY a jurisdictional technicality that prevented him from having one. OK?
I never thought for one second that the Sun had people out visiting strategic holiday destinations in North America on the off chance that they could find some dirt on Ford. But they may have received a tip from someone who knew about Ford's little problem in Florida. Or maybe newspapers can go online to scour court records or news databases for long lost snippets of information. I really don't care how they found that info. The point is that the press often uncovers information that every voter ought to know in order to make an informed decsion on election day. We need our news outlets to uncover relevant facts and criminal behaviour is relevant in my book.
And you're right - the other candidates MAY have had similar convictions but I'm not comfortable with the blanket assumption that they're all just as criminally irresponsible as Ford has shown himself to be.
LOL, you are such a complete idiot. If you've only ever ridden on the sidewalk, you've then you've only ever ridden around your own block! Try riding on the sidewalk downtown. You'll get either get ticketed or hit someone in 5 minutes. Your ignorance is completely unbelievable.
The fact that you can't even address a single fact that I mentioned tells me you've probably never ridden a bike anywhere. All you can do is express your hatred of cyclists.
If you love driving so much, move out of Toronto! Makes as much sense as me moving to Holland.
while riding on the sidewalk is illegal - it certainly happens alot in the downtown
People who ride on sidewalks are ignorant of laws and and are usually riding at a speed barely faster than walking pace. Even then, they are endangering pedestrians. Most regular bike commuters are easily doing 25-30kph and would be a danger do pedestrians if they rode on the sidewalk.
yes. they are a danger and they are assholes. but i see it every day and they are going fast. I would say based on my observations less than one cyclist in ten obeys the rules of the road.
But at the same time you are willing to assume that everything Ford does is wrong,criminal, or not done the way you want it done. Is that not a bit of a double standard?
