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Leimonis

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Not sure what your point is ? I like what I like. I'm in my 50s. I don't like fucking 20 year olds because it makes me feel like a pedo.
Most of my life I've preferred women in their 30s, even when I was younger than that.
If that is the equivalent of fucking a one legged bbw in your opinion so be it.
there was no particular point, in fact I am fixing to fuck a 35yo tonight so definitely nothing wrong with it, and I am hoping that she will be better in bed than a vacuous 20yo, although a one legged bbw probably would be even better :)
 

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Is sugardaddymeet good? I got referred to this site by one of the SPs I fucked
 

GeeBee

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Likewise. My success ratio on that site is pretty high. But I like milfs and 30-40 yr old divorcees. You guys can keep the vacuous 20 year olds and 25 yr old Insta model types.
Yep, this seems to be the case for most Sugar sites. The scams and bots live in a certain demographic range, they know a hot blonde coed is kryptonite for most of us.
 
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dchoye

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Have you guys ever had drama from a SB ?
All SB says they are discreet but I have fear that they let secret out to the wife or SO.
Eventually when you see them more often they will know who you are.
I think I had the same fear with escorts but I realize now it’s their best interest to keep the encounter discrete
But is it the same for SBs?
 

Leimonis

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If you're seeing a SB while having a SO and such then always stick with an alias name and stick with a burner phone or something. Don't add her to any socials. Perhaps make some rules to the arrangement like her not taking pics of you together and typically meet at her place or hotels. I'd say most are pretty respectful if you're wanting discreet, but there's always that odd one lol. And if you're that concerned maybe show up using a rental vehicle to cover your butt. It can get pricier in that regards, but might be best to play it safe like that. And perhaps see one that's a 1, 2 or more hour drive away. You could always say things like you're here on business and live 5 hours away without saying where or lie where you reside. Tell her you actually live in America and are here on a work permit. You should also have your phone password locked if it's not and don't carry personal ID with when spending time together. Leave it hidden and locked away in the vehicle I suppose. It all depends on your fear of getting caught. I'd be taking a lot of precautionary measures if I was dealing with a SO & SB unless of course the SO was open with my lifestyle.
At this point masturbation seems like a pleasurable option 😂
 

RobI

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I might check SDM in a month or two. Do you have to verify yourself to join? I never have on SB. Is the verification also shown publicly compared to other pics you upload? I'm done with SB which has real ladies, but bots also. Back when I first joined about 5 years ago or so I figured it out easily cause when you had enough credit left for your last message or used the last one a few other ladies would msg you so you'd have to spend more to read those again. I've only clicked on secret pics once or twice and not worth it. Most recently I've noticed with SB is you'll get a msg and reply back and she'll reply back once more then ghost typically because it's a bot account. And it can be a new account that msged you say from Barrie. But after the bot/fake account stops msging you they also at times change their locaton say from Barrie to like Newmarket or where ever else. A few times in the search based their location I couldn't see their profile anymore unless I was blocked, but because I sent a msg you can still view their profile through the chat window even if they blocked you so at times I did see the location was changed. I even decided to put it to test to msging one person back who didn't of course just block me for no reason and said "So are you living here instead of there" and never got a reply back. Plus with SB I'm pretty sure it's still free for ladies to join and msg men on there for free. Wouldn't shock me if it's the same business model as AM with employees just creating fake accounts and luring guys to spend more.
I think SDM does now, but I'm not sure how much verification they do of the photo. I saw one girl's verified photo; it was her back to the camera, looking into a mirror lol
They also have some options, like a masquerade mask graphic you can add to your existing photo. Personally, I have one normal photo, and everything else is private.
The main thing is not to use photos you've used anywhere else, such as Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, etc. Keep photos very normal, like a casual corporate picture, so if it does get out someday, you can say someone stole it off a website.

Yes, you'll usually see their location and sometimes their current location doesn't match. I think a lot put somewhere bigger, like Toronto but they're actually in Pickering just for privacy.
 

RobI

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Have you guys ever had drama from a SB ?
All SB says they are discreet but I have fear that they let secret out to the wife or SO.
Eventually when you see them more often they will know who you are.
I think I had the same fear with escorts but I realize now it’s their best interest to keep the encounter discrete
But is it the same for SBs?
Yes, I've had some drama but mostly it's when things are ending (and she's not happy she's being replaced), or it's during the first meeting, where it becomes clear they're not there for the right reasons.
Also, avoid duos on the first meet, usually not as fun as it sounds, and you have two people to watch around your stuff lol

Two things to keep in mind to prevent problems down the road are: don't piss them off unnessassarily (ie. not paying them the agreed amount or something) and don't give them more information about you than you need to.
They don't need to know you're married, what your exact job is, how much you make, what your licence plate number is or where you live (especially if you're married). It's not just about them, but keep in mind that they might also have some lowlife friends who, at some point, might decide to rob your place.

Basically, don't make yourself a target or give them a reason to kill the golden goose (that's you btw)
 

Leimonis

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Besides, if they do something and my wife divorces me, what now stops my from 'getting even'? Not much.
How is a married adulterer supposed to get even with an SB? Will you lodge a complaint with the College of Registered Sugar Babies?
 

dchoye

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How is a married adulterer supposed to get even with an SB? Will you lodge a complaint with the College of Registered Sugar Babies?
I think he means things like vandalize her property. Expose her as a SB and nude photos to family and friends
Not that I would do those things but I heard of vengeful acts that guys might do
 
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Leimonis

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I think he means things like vandalize her property. Expose her as a SB and nude photos to family and friends
Not that I would do those things but I heard of vengeful acts that guys might do
Guys who like to pay a family lawyer AND a criminal lawyer? 😂
 

RobI

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Is sugardaddymeet good? I got referred to this site by one of the SPs I fucked
Well, that's an endorsement if I ever heard one! :D

Yes, there are definitely a few pros on these sites. Not just SDM, but they also make it easier for guys to talk to them without getting banned for discussing money.
There was one profile I saw as summer (she's gone now) that was clearly taken in one of Seduction's rooms; anyone who's been to their Brampton location would recognise it lol.
Another (still around) had a picture in her Bold section where she was holding a piece of paper, similar to how they do in LeoList ads. PM me if you want some leads :)

On the other hand, there are many UTR girls as well, who don't work at spas, but they do see a few guys at their own place.
 
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I use https://www.sugardaddy.ca. I have no issues with it, quite happy, and despite my very specific profile, feel overwhelmed.
Did you ever find you get many who do not reply back even after they initiated the messages? I think I wasted so many credits like this. I find so many girls here will write to you first compared to Seeking or SDM so makes me wonder if they're fake profiles/bots.
 
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Massivo

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Did you ever find you get many who do not reply back even after they initiated the messages? I think I wasted so many credits like this. I find so many girls here will write to you first compared to Seeking or SDM so makes me wonder if they're fake profiles/bots.
I signed up for SD and I'm getting a bunch of messages from random women like yourself. Luckily they are from girls I don't find attractive and so I never open them. But I have gone through my credits and I don't think the site is as good as Seeking... It's only been a couple of weeks for me so I haven't drawn any definite conclusions yet.
 
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waxtrax

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I signed up for SD and I'm getting a bunch of messages from random women like yourself. Luckily they are from girls I don't find attractive and so I never open them. But I have gone through my credits and I don't think the site is as good as Seeking... It's only been a couple of weeks for me so I haven't drawn any definite conclusions yet.
I find the girls from Seeking are more experienced or established so to speak than say SDM. There's definitely fake ones too from Seeking(met one girl clearly not the same pics). With sugardaddy.ca, there are so many cute ones but too bad I think most are fakes.
 
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I find the girls from Seeking are more experienced or established so to speak than say SDM. There's definitely fake ones too from Seeking(met one girl clearly not the same pics). With sugardaddy.ca, there are so many cute ones but too bad I think most are fakes.
Fakes and flakes lol...New book title...

I bought 100 credits twice and I'm thinking now it's just better to spend money on a large amount of credits and get the bonus. I think it ends up being roughly the same price as seeking per month. I met up with a girl from sugar daddy. Just a meet and greet. Attractive enough but I don't think we get along...

I like the video verification as well...

As mentioned before, I've had a bunch of them message me but I haven't wasted credits opening their messages unless it's someone I would message first...

I think there are more fakes and flakes on sugar daddy than seeking...

PPM quotes have ranged from 300(1) 500(2) 450(1) 750(1)... None of these girls can host and if you're getting a hotel then you're into the premium SP prices...The $300 one might actually be able to host...We will see...
 
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Fakes and flakes lol...New book title...

I bought 100 credits twice and I'm thinking now it's just better to spend money on a large amount of credits and get the bonus. I think it ends up being roughly the same price as seeking per month. I met up with a girl from sugar daddy. Just a meet and greet. Attractive enough but I don't think we get along...

I like the video verification as well...

As mentioned before, I've had a bunch of them message me but I haven't wasted credits opening their messages unless it's someone I would message first...

I think there are more fakes and flakes on sugar daddy than seeking...

PPM quotes have ranged from 300(1) 500(2) 450(1) 750(1)... None of these girls can host and if you're getting a hotel then you're into the premium SP prices...The $300 one might actually be able to host...We will see...
Sounds about right. You find the ones $500 and up are just more attractive? The ones who say can host, might be escorts? 🤔
Those verification videos are weird. Many look so plain or bad lighting. You think if they put effort on the pics, they would spend similar effort on the videos too.
 

Leimonis

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Sounds about right. You find the ones $500 and up are just more attractive? The ones who say can host, might be escorts? 🤔
Those verification videos are weird. Many look so plain or bad lighting. You think if they put effort on the pics, they would spend similar effort on the videos too.
They don’t realize men get to see the videos. They think it’s authentication only. This is the best feature of this site by far
 

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They don’t realize men get to see the videos. They think it’s authentication only. This is the best feature of this site by far
That explains why some of them are so creepy. But Jezzus I’d be pissed if I was a girl using the site and my video was used for something other than I thought. It must be in the fine print somewhere that they have to agree to it.
 

Hamsterxxx

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Hey everyone, I’m looking for some guidance on sugar dating norms, specifically around the initial meet and greet and how ppm (pay-per-meet) works afterward. I want to make sure I’m setting fair expectations without getting taken advantage of.
  1. Initial Meet & Greet: What’s the standard breakdown? I’m fine covering dinner, drinks, or any activities for the first meet. If we hit it off, is a ppm expected right away, or only if things progress (e.g., intimacy)? If we don’t vibe, is it reasonable to just cover the date costs without a ppm? $ amounts will be helpful
  2. Post-Initial Meet: Once a connection is made, does the ppm typically stay the same for casual dates (e.g., just dinner or outings)? Or does it increase for more involved dates, like those including intimacy? How do you navigate what’s fair?
I’ve had sugar babies quote $400 for the initial meet and $800-$1,000 for regular meets, excluding intimacy, plus extras like hotels. Honestly, that feels steep for a mediocre connection, and it’s turned me off. Personally, I think $500 ppm is reasonable for a solid meet after we’ve clicked, covering dinner, activities, and something special (including intimacy). Am I off-base here? What are your experiences with ppm rates and setting expectations in sugar dating? Any advice on negotiating or spotting red flags?
 

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Hey everyone, I’m looking for some guidance on sugar dating norms, specifically around the initial meet and greet and how ppm (pay-per-meet) works afterward. I want to make sure I’m setting fair expectations without getting taken advantage of.
  1. Initial Meet & Greet: What’s the standard breakdown? I’m fine covering dinner, drinks, or any activities for the first meet. If we hit it off, is a ppm expected right away, or only if things progress (e.g., intimacy)? If we don’t vibe, is it reasonable to just cover the date costs without a ppm? $ amounts will be helpful
  2. Post-Initial Meet: Once a connection is made, does the ppm typically stay the same for casual dates (e.g., just dinner or outings)? Or does it increase for more involved dates, like those including intimacy? How do you navigate what’s fair?
I’ve had sugar babies quote $400 for the initial meet and $800-$1,000 for regular meets, excluding intimacy, plus extras like hotels. Honestly, that feels steep for a mediocre connection, and it’s turned me off. Personally, I think $500 ppm is reasonable for a solid meet after we’ve clicked, covering dinner, activities, and something special (including intimacy). Am I off-base here? What are your experiences with ppm rates and setting expectations in sugar dating? Any advice on negotiating or spotting red flags?

Rules I have followed in the past:

1) Never give a ppm for a meet & greet. Never. If a woman says she requires $$ because “her time is valuable” or “it is a way to show you are serious” she is most likely a rinser

2) After a mutually enjoyable m&g, offer a ppm you are comfortable with. Don’t try to lowball. Make it clear that it is not about her “worth” but, rather, it is what you can comfortably do to make this mutually beneficial arrangement work, and not seem transactional

3) the only tricky part is the question of ppm for non-intimate dates. I make it clear that I am willing to do several non-intimate meets to assess chemistry, make her feel comfortable, and establish connection. But, no ppm. That being said, as the arrangement progresses, I tend to add a little bit (occasionally) to the established ppm if we’ve had a couple of mutually agreed upon non intimate dates.

Those are the rules I play by. If you are respectful and consistent you can keep her happy for a long time without feeling like you have to raise the ppm. Good luck!
 
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