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Brief update...

I'm in the Tri-Cities area by the way...That covers Guelph Cambridge and Kitchener.

Sugardaddy.ca continues to be problematic. I met up with one girl from there. Attractive, but actually an escort... PPM asked for was 500. Our personalities clashed and I passed... I'm talking to a second girl on there and now she's starting to ask for money for pictures. Sounds like a scam to me but we will see.

I've sent out several messages and paid another $100 (roughly) for 200 credits. I get the feeling that there is a lot of bots and fakes on that site so buyer beware! Will continue to update.

Seeking.com is going fairly well. Met up with one girl from there and she is also asking for 500. She's attractive and seems "normal" enough so I might take her up on the offer.

Overall seeking.com seems to be a way better site than sugardaddy.ca
That sounds about right. 500-600 seems to be the sweet spot(at least from Seeking). Sorry to hear about your misfortunes. Both sites seems to have fakes and escorts but I agreed sugardaddy probably has more. The only positive is at least the credits never run out until you use it up so look at it as a casual backup option. Those verification videos are still weird tho. Some actually help made my decision to pass on them, lol. And speaking of money for clips, had one girl(on Seeking) asking like $100 for one clip!! Crazy
 
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I’d say in Toronto there is a huge shortage. Everyone is complaining about economy but there is very little influx of new SBs (who look good enough to be on an agency roster).
I don’t know how to explain it other than maybe he economy is actually doing quite well or maybe the slut shaming is currently going strong among that generation.
Interesting. Has anyone spoken to the girls they see about a rise in the slut shaming from their peers?

My experience has been that the girls are much more open with their friends than I ever thought they would be. My current SB seems to talk with her friends about it often, and several have had sugar daddies in the past or are intrigued by the idea. She gets no shame at all apparently.
 

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Interesting. Has anyone spoken to the girls they see about a rise in the slut shaming from their peers?
I don’t think they have enough awareness and/or capacity to even recognize that issue let alone monitor rise or fall. When a young woman is good looking things mostly just happen for her and engaging her brain would be a waste of resources
 

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If she's willing to have a meet and greet where no money changes hands, other than you buying her a cup of coffee, she’s an SB. An escort isn’t going to do this. If she wants cash $$ for social dates she’s an escort.

The biggest difference is this:

With an escort the screening is one way, she’s in charge. With SB’s you get to screen each other.
An sp will meet with no money if she’s in it for the long game. Building their roster of allowance guys and men with money will have long term gain. Don’t fool yourself !!
 
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Interesting. Has anyone spoken to the girls they see about a rise in the slut shaming from their peers?

My experience has been that the girls are much more open with their friends than I ever thought they would be. My current SB seems to talk with her friends about it often, and several have had sugar daddies in the past or are intrigued by the idea. She gets no shame at all apparently.
Always assumed that most of these girls get into it because they have friends who have tried it. But I don't know if it's that always the case anymore, a lot probably get the idea though social media.

There was a survey a few years ago in the UK that 20% of students were interested in "sex work" (they defined it pretty much everything from phone-sex operators, escorts, to massage parlours to sugar babies).

 

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True. Both SBs that I am seeing right now had it suggested to them by friends. That's in the late 30s demographic.
 

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Always assumed that most of these girls get into it because they have friends who have tried it. But I don't know if it's that always the case anymore, a lot probably get the idea though social media.
From my experience most sb's I have met got introduced to the world through friends and then they also went on and introduced other friends. I think attractive girls are beginning to realize how lucrative the sb world can be for them for what might be very minimal work compared to the alternative of having a part time job elsewhere.
 
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From my experience most sb's I have met got introduced to the world through friends and then they also went on and introduced other friends.
that’s what they claim but how accurate is it? I was introduced to it by a terb poster 15 years ago yet this is not what I tell the ladies
 
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From my experience most sb's I have met got introduced to the world through friends and then they also went on and introduced other friends. I think attractive girls are beginning to realize how lucrative the sb world can be for them for what might be very minimal work compared to the alternative of having a part time job elsewhere.
That makes sense to me, too. We've all heard stories of girls getting into escorting because they have friends or family members in the business.
 
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I read you get banned if you text about $ or PPM there. True?
Yes this is one of the most annoying things about it. Fucking Americans with their fucking Puritanism
 

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that’s what they claim but how accurate is it? I was introduced to it by a terb poster 15 years ago yet this is not what I tell the ladies
As an sb I don't know what they would gain by lying about being introduced to the world by friends? As a guy I can understand why you might not want to mention terb since most people wouldn't even know what it is and a lot of girls would find it weird and kind of demeaning that there is a review site out there where men review escorts they have been with.
 
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Yes this is one of the most annoying things about it. Fucking Americans with their fucking Puritanism
There's a lot of left-leaning folks who are against women making money based on their looks or bedroom kung-fu :D

After Harper brought in the Noric model, the Liberals had 10+ years to reform sex work, and they did nothing because their base has a strong puritan vibe...as you'd expect from dumpy 50yo+ grey-hairs :)
 
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As an sb I don't know what they would gain by lying about being introduced to the world by friends? As a guy I can understand why you might not want to mention terb since most people wouldn't even know what it is and a lot of girls wouldn't find it appealing that there is a review site out there where men review escorts they have been with.
That's the thing - what do they gain by lying to you exactly?
 
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That's the thing - what do they gain by lying to you exactly?
Maybe it’s simply convenient for her to then be able to tell you what she wants by way of mentioning that her friend is or was getting that. It must be a lot easier fir a girl to say “my friend sold her pussy for XYZ “ rather than say, I thought about it and I estimate my pussy is worth XYZ.

People on that site lie when they open their mouth. Or so you should expect to avoid disappointment. I didn’t really think it would be a subject of a dispute.

Also, what difference does it make if they were told by their friends or not? All we can do is pray that more friends would tell more friends.
 

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On Seeking? Yes. Private messages are monitored too. If you're going to use Seeking, try to get the girl off the platform before talking too many details.

Other sites like SDM are much more lenient but don't have Seeking's size.
Weirdly Seeking also warn girls, in their tips section, NOT to take the conversation off site too soon. Which is very frustrating when you’re engaging with a girls who’s new to the sugar game.

Now I mention the rules about no monetary discussion pretty early on in our chat so they know I’ll want to chat elsewhere. I once had a girls profile completely disappear during a chat less than a minute after she mentioned a dollar figure. Freaking annoying. They can also get quick temporary suspensions and have to go through a weird training type session before they get their profile access back.
 
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Weirdly Seeking also warn girls, in their tips section, NOT to take the conversation off site too soon. Which is very frustrating when you’re engaging with a girls who’s new to the sugar game.

Now I mention the rules about no monetary discussion pretty early on in our chat so they know I’ll want to chat elsewhere. I once had a girls profile completely disappear during a chat less than a minute after she mentioned a dollar figure. Freaking annoying. They can also get quick temporary suspensions and have to go through a weird training type session before they get their profile access back.
Yeah, I get the position Seeking is in, but it does mean you have to beat around the bush a lot longer. Honestly, given their whole "hypergamy" (surprisingly, a real (old) word for basically hooking up with someone above your "station in life") push, it makes sense, but for guys like us looking for casual fun, it's more time-consuming.

"training type session"? Like some Sensitivity training?
 
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