I've looked frame by frame as closely as I can and while I do think I see a little bit of a flagged projection of some textile material, it doesn't add up to a normal sized hunting rifle to my eye.
But it's too grainy to draw any conclusions from.
Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)
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I've looked frame by frame as closely as I can and while I do think I see a little bit of a flagged projection of some textile material, it doesn't add up to a normal sized hunting rifle to my eye.
But it's too grainy to draw any conclusions from.
FBI: Weapon used to kill Charle Kirk recovered
Utah authorities have recovered the weapon used to kill Charlie Kirk, as well as a footwear impression, palm print, and arm print.#shorts #news #politics #ch...
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Rifle recovered in a wooded area..........................very convenient and suspicious.
Is someone stepping into Charlies shoes to campaign to be president?
After Charlie Kirk death Trump Jr. would make shocking moves.#shorts #celebrity #trump #charliekirk
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Canadian style gun laws would definitely help. It's really crazy how they want to make gun access easier when they already have a 3rd world level of gun violence. Like why in the flying fuck do you need guns in public places including government buildings and out in public? Hand guns should be prohibited to at home and thr gun range. Hunting rifles to home and the woods. You really shouldn't be able to buy ammo out of vending machines or guns in a back ally beside a gun show. There should also be a required gun safety course which should he mandatory and a limit to thr amount of guns owned and much stricted penalties for people who don't secure them. Why this is so crazy to the conservatives is beyond me
Fuck George Floyd, he was a career criminal and a piece of shit.
Holy shit, "vending machines"? "Back alley behind a gun show"? You're not actually familiar with gun laws in the US are you?
Well then I stand corrected, although the basic message stays the same - zone is being flooded...
Nah. I just have to get to the burbs and there's no other practical way of getting out there. You clearly don't live in this city.
Yeah, but there ARE all those pedestrians on the 401, I guess. Strange that I haven't killed 15 or 20 pedestrians, given that I'm such a automobile fiend.
Sure. But he didn't deserve to be murdered either.
Many 3rd world nations have less gun violence than the US.
Looks like she's been let go from her job as a result of this vid...So sad.
None of the above comments are factual. They are all rage-bait propaganda, spoken by a college dropout who made 7 figures a year by preaching intolerance on the internet.
Yes flooding the zone is correct.
That is a tried and tested Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller strategy.
I just watched another, higher resolution video and think you are right. Looks like a dark towel wrapped and fluttering a gun. So there goes one of my earlier musings.
Something else I noticed at the higher quality is that it sounds like it was a supressed sub-sonic large calibre gun. Like the US miltaries Special Forces 300 Blackout subsonic round but they are super rare.
I also noticed the angle of Charlie's body is very hunched forward. From the impact point and a max ten degree angle, the wound channel trajectory would have put that bullet iin the meatiest part of the man. So no wonder it didn't blow out his neck.
For those interested, here is the high res YT I watched. It does have the uncensored shot and blood gushing for those woth the stomach...
You missed the point, didn't you?Nah. I just have to get to the burbs and there's no other practical way of getting out there. You clearly don't live in this city.
Yeah, but there ARE all those pedestrians on the 401, I guess. Strange that I haven't killed 15 or 20 pedestrians, given that I'm such a automobile fiend.
You could take public transit or an Uber; leave the driving to the professionals; isn't that the same argument we hear about gun ownership and self defense? Just call the cops, but leave your car keys and valuables near the door.
I haven't killed anyone with my guns either, I'm no more responsible for gun violence than responsible drivers are for automotive fatalities, [hint] that's the point. [/hint]
If the rifle in question even resembles the actual murder weapon, removing the barreled action from the stock for concealment, then reassembling it on the rooftop, just before the shooting, could have greatly affected the rifle's accuracy.
That doesn't even take into consideration that the scope in that photo, was mounted so far rearward, it would have, at best, hindered the shooter's ability to actually fire it.
You make good counter-points.
But believe me when I say that I do not celebrate his murder. I am not saying he can't speak his mind on issues that are important to him. I don't have "extreme views on gun control" as you ascribe to me.
On gun control... as a former, enthusiastic long gun and handgun owner, restricted weapon owner, collector, small game big game and waterfowl hunter, target (22 precision shooting Anschutz) trap and skeet shooter that never shot below 22/25 , I KNOW the US is beyond gun control. I have NO, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH ideas on how to make the US safer WRT guns.
As I said in a previous post, if I lived in the US, I'd own both a self defense shotgun and a concealed compact 40 cal handgun.
In Canada, I surrendered all my guns for destruction about 15-20 years ago when I moved downtown and was worried about securing them. I never wanted the chance that my guns could ever hurt anyone so I didn't sell them.
I accept and support legal gun ownership in Canada. I also support the gov't invoking the notwithstanding clause to reintroduce substantial (5 and 10 year) mandatory minimum sentencing for illegal use or carrying of guns. Whose sentences would be consecutive to any underlying sentences.
I also call out pilots who crash and get killed and kill others "doing what they love" when their deliberate actions result in their death. Because I want others to realize that going out "doing what you love" is never glamourous.
Go peacefully, in your sleep. Like my grandfather. Not screaming in terro like his passengers.
all of that rings hollow with one simple foolish statement you made, justifying a lack of respect for the recently deceased Charlie kirk
It's a frontal impact and so it could also have lodged in his spine, even if it remained above the level of the shoulders.
I don't think the weapon is anything special and it doesn't sound supressed or silenced or muffled. Just a normal gunshot at 150 m distance. A supressed sub-sonic weapon is pretty special forces and this looks to be a DIY kill by a batshit college kid.
This is dragging on. So I'm just going to leave you at this point.You missed the point, didn't you?
You could take public transit or an Uber; leave the driving to the professionals; isn't that the same argument we hear about gun ownership and self defense? Just call the cops, but leave your car keys and valuables near the door.
I haven't killed anyone with my guns either, I'm no more responsible for gun violence than responsible drivers are for automotive fatalities, [hint] that's the point. [/hint]
nope a fascist is some who imposes their ideals on others via violence
And an assassin who kills another person because he does not agree with their views meets that textbook definition .
and once again you show a disgusting lack of respect for a peaceful family man who was cowardly murdered by trying paint his as a fascist
take note
your words not mine
if nothing else Charlie Kirk was a very strong support of individual rights , democracy and opposition
you should be ashamed of yourself
