Garbage Strike - Give Me a Break
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I believe that some or most or all of us said that we are not anti-union but we do have a serious concern about MONOPOLY PUBLIC SECTOR uncompetitive unions because they think that the taxpayer is a bottomless money pit. I also have the same concern with private industries that have monopolies (don't get me started on Rogers).Mrbig1949 said:UNIONS-The people who brought you the weekend.
Did you take your meds today?Mrbig1949 said:I'm winning this debate by a mile. its not even close.
Wow, was it really the unions that said "remember the sabbath and keep it holy" hence the origin of weekends being time off?Mrbig1949 said:UNIONS-The people who brought you the weekend.
Nope you just embarrassed yourself with the previous comment.Mrbig1949 said:I'm winning this debate by a mile. its not even close.
You noticed he didn't answer the question about his definition of the weekend in the 24/7 economy. MB just ignores questions he can properly answer. Keep digging that hole MB.Don said:Wow, was it really the unions that said "remember the sabbath and keep it holy" hence the origin on weekends being time off?
The unions arranged for all day Saturday off for most people
They already had Sunday from somewhere?Don said:Wow, was it really the unions that said "remember the sabbath and keep it holy" hence the origin of weekends being time off?
Nope you just embarrassed yourself with the previous comment.
But it wasn't the unions.Mrbig1949 said:They already had Sunday from somewhere?
Games over G'nite!!
OMFG, you really have no idea what you are talking about. The Sabbath is originally a Saturday (and to Jews it still is). Christians (for reasons I don't know or care) moved it to Sundays. The "weekend" concept originated from these two days.. LONG BEFORE UNIONS existedMrbig1949 said:They already had Sunday from somewhere?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2009/07/29/toronto-garbage-strike.html
It comes after CUPE Local 79 president Ann Dembinski demanded inside workers be allowed to return to work on Thursday without a council vote. She said the push to return to work as soon as possible was unrelated the coming holiday Monday.
Yeah right... after weeks of walking out on the job...
It comes after CUPE Local 79 president Ann Dembinski demanded inside workers be allowed to return to work on Thursday without a council vote. She said the push to return to work as soon as possible was unrelated the coming holiday Monday.
Yeah right... after weeks of walking out on the job...
You are as dumb as a post
www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/06/b99064.html
Yahweh gave us the sabbeth but unions brought us the weekend.
Could you carefully shove this one up your ass Don
You think I made this up the 2 day weekend was negotiated as a union priority to get to the 40 hr week, no matter what sabbeth was taken at no time were both commonly given until lobbied for a negotiated by Labour. That is both, at once dufusDon said:OMFG, you really have no idea what you are talking about. The Sabbath is originally a Saturday (and to Jews it still is). Christians (for reasons I don't know or care) moved it to Sundays. The "weekend" concept originated from these two days.. LONG BEFORE UNIONS existed
www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/06/b99064.html
Yahweh gave us the sabbeth but unions brought us the weekend.
Could you carefully shove this one up your ass Don
I guess this is your way of saying I was right
The problem is you guys gas off day after day with no understanding of Labour law, Labour history, or even history in general. I was right about Labour and the weekend, they were also instrumental in the creation of public education, the earlies demands for it appear in Labour and socialist records pamphlets and annual demand of government. The same is true of pensions, medicare, EI, welfare, health and safety and so on. Do some fucking research, is is as easy to find as Labour and the weekend.train said:Hey Don, didn't you know unions also brought us Christmas and Victoria Day.
Oh so now the labour movement is responsible for public schools are they. Next you will claim the invention of post-it notes. The labour movement participated in the creation of medicare but was not the initiator nor the driving force.Mrbig1949 said:The problem is you guys gas off day after day with no understanding of Labour law, Labour history, or even history in general. I was right about Labour and the weekend, they were also instrumental in the creation of public education, the earlies demands for it appear in Labour and socialist records pamphlets and annual demand of government. The same is true of pensions, medicare, EI, welfare, health and safety and so on. Do some fucking research, is is as esy to find as Labour and the weekend.
Unions had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of pensions. Please read:
http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/exhibitions/hist/pensions/cpp-m1915_e.shtml
The same is true about EI - no union involvement, please read the following-
http://www.canadianeconomy.gc.ca/english/economy/1941ui.html
Time after time its been demonstrated that you just simply make things up. Similar to many current big labour fractured facts used to market the brand.
Now be careful, MB going to take you back to the pyramids and the short lived strike of the pyramid builders unions. I know it's stretch but he's been there once already.Don said:OMFG, you really have no idea what you are talking about. The Sabbath is originally a Saturday (and to Jews it still is). Christians (for reasons I don't know or care) moved it to Sundays. The "weekend" concept originated from these two days.. LONG BEFORE UNIONS existed
I repeat a question that you carefully ignored. In this 24/7 economy what's you definition of a weekend. Did I do better when I worked 4 on 4 off. Wow! a long weekend every week and no union in sight.Mrbig1949 said:You think I made this up the 2 day weekend was negotiated as a union priority to get to the 40 hr week, no matter what sabbeth was taken at no time were both commonly given until lobbied for a negotiated by Labour. That is both, at once dufus
www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/06/b99064.html
Yahweh gave us the sabbeth but unions brought us the weekend.
Could you carefully shove this one up your ass Don
Mrbig1949 said:The problem is you guys gas off day after day with no understanding of Labour law, Labour history, or even history in general. I was right about Labour and the weekend, they were also instrumental in the creation of public education, the earlies demands for it appear in Labour and socialist records pamphlets and annual demand of government. The same is true of pensions, medicare, EI, welfare, health and safety and so on. Do some fucking research, is is as easy to find as Labour and the weekend.
Maybe they did give us rainbows. Nah!!
I've got a disability packge even you'd smile at, my pension is more than sufficient when I get there, a health plan that covers everything I've ever needed and then some, and not a union in sight. I do my homework and negotiate my best deal. No one in the room ever feels chaffed. Unions didn't give me squat.
Oh ya! I almost forgot. it's cost are tax deductible
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Don't worry train, if your comments get ignored. MB does that really well when he get confronted with actual facts.train said:Oh so now the labour movement is responsible for public schools are they. Next you will claim the invention of post-it notes. The labour movement participated in the creation of medicare but was not the initiator nor the driving force.
Unions had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of pensions. Please read:
http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/exhibitions/hist/pensions/cpp-m1915_e.shtml
The same is true about EI - no union involvement, please read the following-
http://www.canadianeconomy.gc.ca/english/economy/1941ui.html
Time after time its been demonstrated that you just simply make things up. Similar to many current big labour fractured facts used to market the brand.
You know D, you might have a point. No one can be that thick. Shame on us.Don said:Actually I'm starting to think MrBig is just playing us with his comments. He's just pretending to be a dumb union backer who doesn't know what he's talking about to entertain himself. And we took the bait.
Agreed... gnite to this thread
Nah!!!
Haven't quite figured out whether he takes the cool-aid or just dispenses it. He does have a bag full of this though doesn't he ?blackrock13 said:Don't worry train, if your comments get ignored. MB does that really well when he get confronted with actual facts.
