drlove said:
No... You've got it wrong. We went out on a Tuesday... the one with the makeout session. I called her Wednesday night to ask her out for Friday. I got her answering machine and left a message, really sweet saying that I thought about her a lot recently, and that I wanted to wish her a good night. She was the one who didn't get back to me until 7:30pm on Friday night and said that she was really wiped and just wanted to hang out with her friends. She asked me what I was doing, and I told her I was at a friend's place having a few drinks. E.g. (already had plans). IMHO,She only asked me if I wanted to tag along to see if she could get me to give up my plans on account of her - meaning being a wuss. NO.... it was her fault for not getting back to me sooner. I'm not going to be her 'beck and call' guy. Remember, a woman doesn't want anything she can have easily. If she really wanted to go out and do something as a group, she should have had the courtesy to give me more advance notice.
Just stumbled upon this thread, what I'm going to say may have already been mentioned.
Listen to yourself, you want to meet an honest woman for a serious relationship but you are already assuming things like all she wants to do is get free drinks and use you. Giving up your plans for her does not mean you are a wuss. If you think that you ARE a wuss. It would simply mean that you are very interested. Like some other people said, her wanting you to meet her friends is a good sign. Maybe she was really busy that week and didn not even listen to your message till it was too late but she did all she could to get together with you still. Maybe you sounded drunk hanging out with your buddies and she thought this guy is into his friends too much. You are going into this "serious" relationship already thinking about the few bucks you spent on her and thinking that she is using you already. You have your guards up but you want her to drop hers. Leaving a messgae is bullshit. If you are that interested, you call her again at least once more. If you are that interested, nothing wrong with showing it. "Taking charge" is also acomplished by buying drinks, being persistent, not only by letting your hands wonder in the car.
Let's not forget a few basic rules here. We, as men have to still convince "them" that we are the one for them. Whether that is dropping your friends for the night, buying dinner, drinks, whatever. You will get your chance to show that you are not a push-over if you sense that she is in fact taking advantage. You took her out twice and already think that she is using you??? You assumed waaay too much too soon.
Women dont want what they can get easily? And you do? If she fucked you on the first night, would you marry her? And maybe you want her more now that she doesn't want you.
Put into a realitonship what you want to get out of it. You want to get fucked, go for it on the first night. You want a relationship, put some real effort into it. Stop with all these assumptions, "if I do this she will think this, if I do that she will think that". Just be yourself. If you wanted to see her that night more than hanging out with the guys than you should have!
