Liberals lied on the carbon tax, according to Statistics Canada data

[JohnLarue]

Judging by the past decade, you've been giving the benefit of the doubt out like free candy! Lol!
How did that work out?

really
a decade of failure is not quite enough for butler 1000
that is pretty much the definition of a life long liberal voter

btw i have voted liberal in the past

this is not the liberal party of jean and paul

 

[Butler1000]

starting your response with 'and' clearly implies you agree that Carny secured the PMs position via deceit and has since caved into trump



bullshit
pierre was clear from word go that Canada would never become the 51st state

you are parroting the deceit of the liberal campaign



who will Take on Trump election was the liberal narrative, yet carneys actions say other wise



quite the opposite
Trudeau was a curse on Canada
the current version of the Trudeau boot licking liberal party remains a curse on Canada
the job is half done



if Carney implements the conservative platform he promised in the campaign, it will be an improvement on the Trudeau disaster
if he does not, there will be another election soon

ponder this
Carney is leading a bunch of fools who somehow actually believed in the moron Trudeau
you are delusional if you think the corruption and mismanagement will now go away




you have not seen the last of Pierre P





you are not paying attention
i do not advocate caving to Trump, rather i expect Canada can eliminate long standing trade irritantants softwood lumber and secure our share of the auto sector
however we will need to give on anti free trade supply management and social media taxation to obtain these wins
and we need to be willing to do a deal instead of foolishly waiting


Stowe that ignorant quisling bullshit
i did not ask for this trade war
What is wrong with you ?

Like I said. A strongly worded letter will fix things. Better get on it!

 

[Frankfooter]

really
a decade of failure is not quite enough for butler 1000

Are you outdoing that with more than a decade of failed climate predictions?

 

[JohnLarue]

Like I said. A strongly worded letter will fix things. Better get on it!

that is almost as offensive as your ignorant / divisive and really stupid quisling comment

your man Carney won the election via deceit
He won and has the job
His actions going forward will determine how long he survives
if fails to deliver , the electorate will not forget he won via deceit

 

[boobtoucher]

FYI the US democrats will soon be asking why they opposed Elon Musks DOGE efforts

I mean, mostly because they did a lot of economic damage and didn't actually save any money.

 

[JohnLarue]

I mean, mostly because they did a lot of economic damage and didn't actually save any money.

they were not permitted to act as needed

you will view this as a victory however , you are just kicking the can down the road , a road which is getting shorter and shorter

there will be a need to reduce the entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare

this is a simple fact of mathematics

 

[boobtoucher]

they were not permitted to act as needed

By whom? Repubs control the house, senate, presidency, and supreme court. Who was preventing DOGE from "acting as needed"?

DOGE was always a grift to dismantle agencies who were holing Elon to account. Do you really think 19-year-old BIGBALLS was the best guy, in a country of 340 million, to audit government spending?

 

[JohnLarue]

By whom? Repubs control the house, senate, presidency, and supreme court. Who was preventing DOGE from "acting as needed"?

the courts
the democrats blew a fuse at word go for doge

DOGE was always a grift to dismantle agencies who were holing Elon to account. Do you really think 19-year-old BIGBALLS was the best guy, in a country of 340 million, to audit government spending?

Since when was usaid holding Elon musk to account?

the left will freak when cuts are required for entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare
and the left should regret not fining spending cuts elsewhere as doge was attempting to do

 

[boobtoucher]

the courts
the democrats blew a fuse at word go for doge

The courts enforce the law. So you're saying is that DOGE's actions were illegal, and you support illegal activities?

The legislative and executive branches are both republican controlled and couldn't be arsed to pass laws to empower DOGE. This is a republican failure of governance.

 

[JohnLarue]

The courts enforce the law. So you're saying is that DOGE's actions were illegal, and you support illegal activities?

please do not pretend you are so naive not to understand how the us court system is politized

the bottom line is government waste spending has been out of control for decades and the bill is coming due

the 36 trillion debt accumulated by the us govt over its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under status quo
20% of all us govt revenues are spent servicing the interest on that massive debt

the us govt is on a very slippery slope towards insolvency
a us govt insolvency will cause a world wide depression, not a recession, but a depression

doge was trying to prevent this
the loonie left fought doge tooth and nail

i am sure you will feel better when entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare is slashed to the bone simply because there will be noone willing to buy new treasuries and thus no money will be available to payout for entitlements ,
you will argue that is illegal while ignoring the reality of empty govt coffers

 

[boobtoucher]

please do not pretend you are so naive not to understand how the us court system is politized

the bottom line is government waste spending has been out of control for decades and the bill is coming due

the 36 trillion debt accumulated by the us govt over its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under status quo
20% of all us govt revenues are spent servicing the interest on that massive debt

the us govt is on a very slippery slope towards insolvency
a us govt insolvency will cause a world wide depression, not a recession, but a depression

doge was trying to prevent this
the loonie left fought doge tooth and nail

i am sure you will feel better when entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare is slashed to the bone simply because there will be noone willing to buy new treasuries and thus no money will be available to payout for entitlements ,
you will argue that is illegal while ignoring the reality of empty govt coffers

I'm not arguing what is legal or illegal. I'm not a US judge.

If DOGE believed what it was doing was legal, it could have fought to the supreme court, which has already made Trump a god-king.

If DOGE's actions SHOULD have been legal, the house should have passed laws to support DOGE's work.

 

[Butler1000]

the courts
the democrats blew a fuse at word go for doge




Since when was usaid holding Elon musk to account?

the left will freak when cuts are required for entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare
and the left should regret not fining spending cuts elsewhere as doge was attempting to do

Lol. MAGA get those "entitlements" more. Look at state transfers. Once they get their own benefits cut it will be fun to watch.

 

[Butler1000]

please do not pretend you are so naive not to understand how the us court system is politized

the bottom line is government waste spending has been out of control for decades and the bill is coming due

the 36 trillion debt accumulated by the us govt over its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under status quo
20% of all us govt revenues are spent servicing the interest on that massive debt

the us govt is on a very slippery slope towards insolvency
a us govt insolvency will cause a world wide depression, not a recession, but a depression

doge was trying to prevent this
the loonie left fought doge tooth and nail

i am sure you will feel better when entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare is slashed to the bone simply because there will be noone willing to buy new treasuries and thus no money will be available to payout for entitlements ,
you will argue that is illegal while ignoring the reality of empty govt coffers

And the big beautiful bill adds 3 trillion. That doesn't sound very responsible.

 

[Butler1000]

that is almost as offensive as your ignorant / divisive and really stupid quisling comment

your man Carney won the election via deceit
He won and has the job
His actions going forward will determine how long he survives
if fails to deliver , the electorate will not forget he won via deceit

Yup. That's what I've been saying. I figure he has a year.

And so long as you want to take the US side on trade negotiations by dismantling supply chain the quisling comment stands as truth. It's a national security issue to protect our food supply and farmers from foreign multinationals.

Did you learn nothing during the pandemic? Look at what not having drug manufacturing did to us. Now you want to hand over FOOD?

 

[JohnLarue]

I'm not arguing what is legal or illegal. I'm not a US judge.

bullshit your not

So you're saying is that DOGE's actions were illegal, and you support illegal activities?

If DOGE believed what it was doing was legal, it could have fought to the supreme court, which has already made Trump a god-king.

that is loonie left partisanship

If DOGE's actions SHOULD have been legal, the house should have passed laws to support DOGE's work.

All govt spending needs to able to withstand an audit

are audits of government spending mandatory in the usa?

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[JohnLarue]

And the big beautiful bill adds 3 trillion. That doesn't sound very responsible.

i never claimed it was

i suspect the doge savings were expected to offset the tax cuts in big beautiful bill
now the savings will need to come from entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare

 

[JohnLarue]

]Yup. That's what I've been saying. I figure he has a year.

no he can not wait for a year
we need a deal very soon

And so long as you want to take the US side on trade negotiations by dismantling supply chain the quisling comment stands as truth. It's a national security issue to protect our food supply and farmers from foreign multinationals.

WRF is wrong with you
lose the quisling insults you ignorant fool

your acting a fool does not make you any more patriotic than the next Canadian
so get rid of that nonsense

you have not been paying attention
Canada has been chipping away with supply management for decades. it is not a national security issue and it is an anti free trade protectionism practise
quotas and price fixing is not free trade
we need to ensure we maintain a softwood lumber, aluminum , steel and auto sector

Did you learn nothing during the pandemic? Look at what not having drug manufacturing did to us. Now you want to hand over FOOD?

wrong
Trudeau did a dirty deal with the rat bastard Chinese communists that blew up in his face

our farmers can compete and win
you say they can not

any system that requires valuable food to be poured down the drain while Canadians are getting hammered by food inflation is a broken system

Canadian dairy farmers dump enough milk each year to feed 4.2 million people, study says

Nelson Zandbergen Farmers Forum OTTAWA — Canadian dairy farmers sent more than 6.8 billion litres of surplus milk down the drain between 2012 and 2021, a rate of milk-dumping higher than the U.S. and

farmersforum.com

Nelson Zandbergen
Farmers Forum

OTTAWA — Canadian dairy farmers sent more than 6.8 billion litres of surplus milk down the drain between 2012 and 2021, a rate of milk-dumping higher than the U.S. and other major dairying countries. That’s the estimation of researchers who compared the total milk production of Canada’s national dairy herd with the actual amount of milk that goes out the farm gate.

The recently published study — by Dalhousie University food professor Sylvain Charlebois and academic colleagues in Michigan and Denmark — concluded that plenty of milk “vanished” from Canadian dairy farms as producers dumped it to avoid exceeding their supply-management quotas. The quantity of wasted milk, between 6.8 billion and 10 billion litres over 10 years, would be worth $14.9 billion, fill over 2,700 Olympic-sized swimming pools and feed 4.2 million people annually.

The lost milk is equivalent to 7 % of Canada’s milk production. That exceeds the on-farm milk-dumping rate in the U.S. (up to 0.5 %), Sweden (0.3 %), Finland (0.5 %), Scotland (1.8 %) and France (3.5 %), according to the research. Canada is the only country left in the world with a supply-managed dairy sector.

Milk dumping last made a media splash in February 2023 when Southwestern Ontario dairy farmer Jerry Huigen went viral with a video of himself gushing wasted milk onto the barn floor. Dairy farmers are told “just throw it down the drain. Nobody sees it, it’s OK,” Huigen complained in the social media post. “Well, it’s not OK.”

Charlebois told Farmers Forum that the video inspired his co-authors to contact him about studying the phenomenon in Canada. Because data on discarded milk is not collected in this country, the professor and his colleagues took a year to estimate the milk losses. They estimated the annual milk output of the national herd, based on cow numbers, and then subtracted milk sales volume figures published by Statistics Canada.

 

[boobtoucher]

bullshit your not

that is loonie left partisanship

All govt spending needs to able to withstand an audit

are audits of government spending mandatory in the usa?

I enjoy how you keep saying "tree, tree, tree." and never see the forest.

All government spending is ALREADY audited. DOGE didn't audit, they just cut.

i suspect the doge savings were expected to offset the tax cuts in big beautiful bill
now the savings will need to come from entitlement spending, social security, Medicaid, Medicare , welfare

you're actually laying out the grift. "Oh, we tried with DOGE and it didn't work, now we have to cut social spending"

It was designed to fail so that MAGA cultists will bend over and thank Trump for cutting their supports.

 

[JohnLarue]

I enjoy how you keep saying "tree, tree, tree." and never see the forest.

says the ostrich with his head stuck in the sand
you completely avoided the elephant in the room

the bottom line is government waste spending has been out of control for decades and the bill is coming due

the 36 trillion debt accumulated by the us govt over its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under status quo
20% of all us govt revenues are spent servicing the interest on that massive debt

the us govt is on a very slippery slope towards insolvency
a us govt insolvency will cause a world wide depression, not a recession, but a depression

All government spending is ALREADY audited. DOGE didn't audit, they just cut.

bullshit, if government spending was properly audited and controlled there would not be a 36 trillion pile of govt debt

do you have any ideal how ridiculous your position is?

you're actually laying out the grift. "Oh, we tried with DOGE and it didn't work, now we have to cut social spending"

It was designed to fail so that MAGA cultists will bend over and thank Trump for cutting their supports.

what part of this is beyond your comprehension?
is it the big numbers, $36 trillion?
is the 20% of govt revenue something you can not grasp ?

the 36 trillion debt accumulated by the us govt over its 240 year history is going to double in the next 9 years under status quo
20% of all us govt revenues are spent servicing the interest on that massive debt

the us govt is on a very slippery slope towards insolvency

do you not understand what insolvency means ?

please lets us know, so that you can be helped

 

[Skoob]

Your original comment about the word initiate having two meanings in my response made no sense anyway.
I asked you how the word initiate in my question can be interpreted in more ways than one.
You are still not able to articulate just like you aren't able to articulate the impact of carbon taxes or do basic grade school math.

You said in your response you didn't know the word initiate had two meanings. Your words not mine.

Now if you want to apologize for not being clear while trying to be clever, I would accept your apology and write this off to your continued efforts at learning the English language.

I would have no problem with that.