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Before the major scandals.

The public would be more forgiving of Olivia Chow just like they forgave her husband going to an Asian rub and tug.
She didn't make a big deal out of her husband going to a rub n tug, another reason to vote for her.
Imagine Ford's reaction if his wife did the same.
 

GPIDEAL

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She didn't make a big deal out of her husband going to a rub n tug, another reason to vote for her.
Imagine Ford's reaction if his wife did the same.
Lol. Not a good enough reason for me to vote for her Viggo. I must say though that when confronted by the cops, the late Jack Layton didn't hesitate to answer him truthfully. They kept it out of the press. I liked Jack Layton for being a hobbyist.
 

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30 days alone won't re-invent the man. People won't believe him either. He's on 'life-support'. If anything, it's hopefully the beginning of his rejuvenation, but it's gonna take longer than the time left until the next election.

He's done in my humble opinion.

Make room for John Tory. I can even tolerate Soknacki or Karen Stintz but not Ms. Chow.
I thought that's what I said. Not a "re-invention". But the beginning. And yes he is done.

I just think right now the media should not chase this. They now have a provincial election to cover it would appear.

More though I want coverage on the real candidates now. Take away his name from the media and Ford's numbers will drop more. There is only two ways to get rid of him. He leaves voluntarily because he realizes he needs long term help. Or the family steps in, cuts off the funding for the campaign, and he has no choice.

I just want his name out. Show a debate without him, without his record and antics as a distraction. Let the city decide on issues and the real candidates. The media is as much enabling his campaign as anyone. So end his access.
 

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Ford stopped being the main story so long ago. If polls are to be believed, his core support, which endures even today is the real story here. There isn't even any "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" about it, a major part of Toronto is ok having a lying homophobic, incredibly dumb racist in the City's highest office.

What does it say about this City and its voters when R.F. support never falls below 35%? It was obvious who Ford was when he ran for Mayor, but I can forgive a certain kind of voter who was fed up with the smug ideologue Miller and just wanted someone who'd respect their tax dollar and run the City competently. I think someone who voted for Ford then was guilty of not doing their homework, but I can understand the mistake. However, those who continue to defend him and even say they'd still vote for him...the fact that such people still make up a huge part of the electorate, well that's a terrible indictment of our society. Yes, the man embarrassed Toronto, but Ford Nation is the real and tragic embarrassment.
 

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Actually Ford's support is down to around 22%, and I expect it will drop even further a few weeks after he returns from his vacation and has another drunken stupor recorded on a smartphone.

The percentage of people who would vote for him in the upcoming municipal election dropped to 22 per cent in a five-way race from 27 per cent, according to the Forum Research poll conducted Thursday evening.
The poll has Ford dropping to third place and candidate John Tory moving up to second place, behind frontrunner Olivia Chow.
It also found that even among voters who support Ford, 15 per cent think he should resign.
The poll includes responses from 888 Torontonians reached by telephone. Its results are considered accurate within 3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
The poll shows waning support for Ford after revelations including the existence of a second video that appears to show the mayor smoking crack cocaine, a wild night out that allegedly involved an a verbal altercation with Justin Bieber and an audio recording in which he made crude remarks about fellow mayoral candidate Karen Stintz.
“This is the new low for him,” said Forum president Lorne Bozinoff. “At this point, he’s pretty much insulted everybody in the city – women obviously, so there’s half the population right there. It looks like he’s been making racial slurs based on the reports this morning.”
Bozinoff noted that the poll does not reflect any change that would have resulted from the Star’s Friday report that Ford used racist language, including in reference to former TCHC chief executive officer Gene Jones.
It's actually really bad IMO that he's gone to Chicago. A few weeks of sobriety will change nothing, and having his rehab 'support' that far away is not going to help the next time he feels like reaching for a bottle or crack pipe.
His family, especially Doug, still refuse to accept the extent of his substance abuse (and his being a racist, sexist, homophobic douchebag disguised as a politician). And if he goes along with a 12 step program he's the one who's going to get "jammed" when it comes time to write a list of all the people who have been harmed, and then to 'make amends'.
Because that is going to be a really long list.

But I doubt he'll get that far. Upon returning from vacation we'll once again hear that the prior drunken benders were in the past, it's time to move on, just need to lose a few pounds, are you perfect, and all the other bullshit he's said before.

There is also the story of the connection between Ford and Muzik still to play out, that reeks of corruption.
 

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I'm sure gonna miss Robbie though, next mayor is gonna seem to boring compared to him :(
 

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While I understand a lot of crowing at this point let's remember he is still a human being who has finally taken the first step. It a long road and certainly doesn't mean he is fit for office at this point. But I won't wish him ill.

Remember his opponent in the last election went through the exact same thing, had a husband who presumably died due to substance abuse issues, and is now trying to open a medical pot facility.

A bit more common than many would think.

Now that he is finally gone off why not wait until he gets back and see what desicions he makes before automatically assuming the worst.
28 days of vacation or whatever Doug is calling it, is nothing. It's not like taking a Rx drug and then when the month is over he's cured. And even without the drinking and crack and lying about everything, he is a corrupt, racist sexist homophobe who threatened a CH security guard.
A month's vacation isn't going to change any of that.

As a councilor, Ford made a ignorant, lie-filled rant declaring war on me. So fuck him. The best thing Ford could do for the city and for his family is: never return.
And as mayor...I don't know what's up with City Hall's HR department but he should have been written up 3 times and fired a long time ago.

Our system is fucked up because he's not the owner of Toronto, Inc. and thus entitled to stay in charge. The mayor in effect is on a 4 year limited contract, and he's violated so many normal conditions of employment he should have been canned over a year ago.

Our Rob Ford problem: We forgive him

In both its tone and time span, the Rob Ford administration has come to feel like a surreal and often anarchic telethon. We’ve grown used to an increasingly bizarre cast of D-list celebrities and stricken-looking volunteers asking us to pledge our pity to Rob Ford, lest he go off the air. The lines are always open for us to give and any sympathy sent the mayor’s way is matched tenfold with a gift from the family foundation.

As evidence of the mayor’s crimes (indeed, indictable offences) has mounted the family’s spin that Rob Ford is more sinned-against than sinning has required an awe-inspiring victimization escalation: Mr. Ford’s questioning by reporters is presented as Pit and the Pendulum-esque torture.

Last November, the mayor’s brother, Doug Ford, compared his fellow councillors asking his brother about his drug use with the passion of Christ, saying what was been done to the mayor was “kind of like what was done to Jesus.”

Doug’s hyperbole was barely remarked upon here in the land of Sad Ford Fatigue.

This week, Mr. Ford, already low in the polls, was backed into a corner when another tape of him appearing to smoke crack cocaine surfaced along with an audio recording indisputably showing him to be an awful man. He, prudently, announced that he would take a 30-day leave to deal with what he presented as a drinking problem.

The cynical – hell, just the sentient among you – may wonder if this stint in what we’re told is rehab is just another campaign expense – the world’s biggest fridge magnet.

“It’s not easy to be vulnerable,” Mr. Ford said (pledge now!) in a written statement about his leave that made no apology to any of the groups he insulted in that recorded conversation. For the sake of brevity, I’ll just list groups he omitted.

Iceland, kittens, you can go home.

“Gays” and women, you know the drill and perhaps you remember a time (three years ago) and a place (Toronto) where saying, “If you don’t get a shot in two seconds I’ll knock your fucking teeth out” to a waitress, let alone, “No, no, I don’t want that fucking dago down there to start...,” as Rob Ford does on that tape, could only have meant an imminent resignation. Now, we will be asked again to forgive our “sorry” mayor and move on and eventually to vote Ford.

We might as well change our civic motto to “Toronto: maybe your city’s perfect.”

There’s a video from 2011 on YouTube I sometimes watch, to change the channel from Mr. Ford’s perpetual pity-athon. In it, then-14-year-old Anika Tabovaradan, a resident of Scarborough, gives a deposition at 2 a.m. during a 22-hour Toronto City Hall executive committee meeting on proposed service cuts.

Ms. Tabovaradan clearly genuinely hates speaking in public, as she states, and indeed she breaks down crying right away. She still manages to make her case: She relies on the library and if branches close, the already lengthy lines to use the computers to do her homework will get even longer. Her schoolwork will suffer, she fears.

Ms. Tabovaradan wants to get a good job one day, she says, and to pay taxes so that other people have access to libraries. Her deposition would have melted a heart of stone. The crowd watching her applauded; many, including me, teared up.

Rob Ford has made a prime-time drama out of wanting to be left alone, acted out in every spotlight he can find. He plays a person forced to be in the public eye by a selfless desire to make the city a better place. But he sat before the real deal that night appearing bored during Ms. Tabovaradan’s brief statement, which he punctuated bluntly with, “Is that it? Is that the end of your deposition?”

Bookmark that video. Watch it often. I suspect a stone-cold-sober Rob Ford, and for his sake, and for the sake of his family, I hope that happens, would still be that man. He’d still have a profoundly myopic vision of Toronto’s future – a certainty that the city needs only the things that the heir to Deco Labels needs. Fewer libraries, more casinos. Even his extravagant plan for a subway seems rooted in a concern that there’s transit on, or even adjacent to (in the case of the vastly superior and less expensive light-rail plan he cavalierly threw out), his roads.

Dry as a bone, I bet Rob Ford would still be a man who has a billion in civic savings the way some people have imaginary friends and the word “wop” doesn’t suddenly pop into one’s lexicon when one is drunk.

Consider that please, Toronto, because sometimes it’s just beautiful what a town without pity can do.
 

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What if Rob withdraws from the election race and Doug runs? Anything's possible at this point.
 

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I am quite sure that Chow will make a good mayor. So would Tory or Stintz.

I have no problem at all with Ford coronating Olivia by staying on the ballot. We both know he can't win, he will get his 20 or 25 percent, cockblock Tory, and Chow will win.

Ford staying in the race is an absolute gift to the left. Chow vs Tory would be a battle of ideas, the voters would get to decide between two fairly different but valid views of the city. If Ford is on the ballot he will bleed the stupid right wing vote away and Tory can't win with only the intelligent right.
You are quite sure she will make a good mayor? Based on what exactly? Chow will be the puppet of all the left-wing councilors at city hall and will just go along with whatever they want.

If you simply support Chow then leave it at that. Don't waste your time trying to justify it by slamming Ford.
 

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Ford stopped being the main story so long ago. If polls are to be believed, his core support, which endures even today is the real story here. There isn't even any "nudge, nudge, wink, wink" about it, a major part of Toronto is ok having a lying homophobic, incredibly dumb racist in the City's highest office.

What does it say about this City and its voters when R.F. support never falls below 35%? It was obvious who Ford was when he ran for Mayor, but I can forgive a certain kind of voter who was fed up with the smug ideologue Miller and just wanted someone who'd respect their tax dollar and run the City competently. I think someone who voted for Ford then was guilty of not doing their homework, but I can understand the mistake. However, those who continue to defend him and even say they'd still vote for him...the fact that such people still make up a huge part of the electorate, well that's a terrible indictment of our society. Yes, the man embarrassed Toronto, but Ford Nation is the real and tragic embarrassment.
Last election, your choice was Rob Ford, or George Smitherman.

Each is as bad as the other. In fact, one might still argue that Ford is still better than Smitherman.

We didn't have a lot of choice.
 

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Last election, your choice was Rob Ford, or George Smitherman.

Each is as bad as the other. In fact, one might still argue that Ford is still better than Smitherman.

We didn't have a lot of choice.
Last election we had a choice between a stimulant addict with anger management issues, or a stimulant addict with anger management issues.

(though to be fair, unlike Ford, we have no reason to doubt Smitherman when he says he's clean these days).
 

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Ford nation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ford more years!!!!!!!!!!!! Ford more years!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy:
 

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You are quite sure she will make a good mayor? Based on what exactly? Chow will be the puppet of all the left-wing councilors at city hall and will just go along with whatever they want.

If you simply support Chow then leave it at that. Don't waste your time trying to justify it by slamming Ford.
Based on having seen how will she works first hand, she will be a great mayor. She has never been anyone's puppet.

By the way, I don't slam Ford because I support Chow. I slam Ford because he is a lying, incompetent, lazy, racist, homophobic, belligerent idiot who has brought the Mayorality into disrepute by repeatedly associating with thugs and street criminals.
 
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