Question- Do you think SP's are way under priced?

gentle_lover

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I think they get pay well. Not under priced for sure. I think the OP is an SP.
 

Dr69

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250 dollars is way to low, men who can afford to see SP's should be paying 300 to 500 dollars to an agency or indy.
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You do realize that there is nothing stopping an indy from saying she wants $300 or $500 right? If a girl feels that sex with her is worth that much let her go ahead and set her price and let the market decide if it is too high or too low.

You can't say it is too high or low in isolation, you have to keep in mind the wages of people living in that city. Many workers barely take home $1000 every two weeks after paying for their deductions, taxes etc.

SPs in New York, LA and London charge a lot more, but the cost of living there is a lot higher than in Toronto. Moreover, working in the US entails a higher risk factor, so that risk premium pushes the prices up. In places where prostitution is illegal or sex is more controlled the prices are higher.

Oth the other hand, in Amsterdam, a city with a relatively lower cost of living and where prostitution is much more out in the open, a session can be had for 50 Euros.
 

marikiss

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Well, the ladies could charge something closer to the rates they have in Thailand. a full over night for $60-85, that works for me.
 

LadyTY2Uall

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As someone pointed out in another thread once, we are not paid for sex, we are paid to go away after the sex....;)
 

mb12ca

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I have paid $350 an hour and regularly pay $300 per hour. I don't want them to go to low in the rates though because you get high-volume problems that go along with that.
 

d78

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ladies all think they are under paid, no exception; guys, some think they are over-charged, some just like acting as a mafia boss flashing cash around.
 

JohnLarue

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To carry on from a thread I posted in another area, I think SP's are under priced in this city, province and country.

250 dollars is way to low, men who can afford to see SP's should be paying 300 to 500 dollars to an agency or indy.

Okay, there are a few scanks out there who work cheap, and if you want to go to them and get crabs and other Std's thats your choice.

But the agency's dont hire cheap scanks, and with the independents, a picture is worth a thousand words. If she looks hot, she's hot. Unless its a bait and switch operation. 90% of the time, the women in the photo is the women you get when you open the door.

Like I mentioned before. Having sex all the time is hard on a womens body. She has to put a lot of money into personal care, and 150 to 200 dollars isnt going to give her that extra spending money she needs, assure her safety and provide transportation. Cabs alone cost a fortune to get from one place to another.

Dont be so cheap guys. You want quality, pay for quality.
This is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read
1. The market is what the market is & the ladies who are not willing to provide service at a certain price will not.
If a lady can charge $500 / hr & there is enough demand for services at that price then , that is the market price.
If there is not enough demand she will either have to drop her price or do something else.
2. There is no correlation between how a lady looks & the probability of catching crabs or an STD.

3. There is no correlation between what a lady charges & the probability of catching crabs or an STD.
Are you totally stunned?
4. There is a correlation between how hot a lady looks or presents herself and what she can charge in the market
5. In fact the demand for hot ladies who are willing to provide certain higher risk services (Greek) is more likely to increase the probability of an STD.
Yes its been debated a thousand times, however thats just common sense.

Paying more will not reduce any risk & your a fool if you think it will
Common sense is probably a better model
 

Adrenaline

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I think SP's are overpaid. What's harder? Going through 4 years of undergrad, 4 years of medical school, and 7 years of residency to perform life or death open heart surgery to get paid $200/hr? Or being banged by a guy for $250/hr? I mean, come on.
 

rhuarc29

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I'm not sure what the agency's stake of the $250 is, but any profession that pays near that requires 6-8 years of grueling education, probably a shite load of debt and financial hardship. Not to mention these professions are highly difficult and I'm willing to bet the stress involved more than balances bodily stresses from having lots of fun time :rolleyes:. Let's take a doctor for instance since it's the most obvious choice. They don't see the majority of their income because they pay through the nose for malpractice insurance and taxes. There job is one of the most critical out there, and mistakes can be deadly. Talk about pressure.

Now SPs. Maybe they are putting themselves at risk to an STD, but i'm willing to bet the chances of that in Canada are slim. Sorry, but aside from having a client you despise, an SP's profession doesn't rank up there on stress level.

So no experience required, low stress levels, and a high pay rate - I don't care what you've been told, these gals are raking it in (ever wonder why they're off for a few weeks or so every few months? It's called the Bahamas). My two cents? *Most* SP's are overpaid.
 

Dr69

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I think he is speaking from his own perspective. Maybe he feels that he is so unattractive and so repulsive to women that $250 is not enough compensation for them to sleep with him.

Guys like this who overvalue pussy and put it on a pedestal have trouble maintaining relationships with women and are usually the type of guys you hear about who empty their bank accounts and give it to an SP or stripper. I think this guy has extremely low self confidence.

Remember one thing, that pussy that you think is worth $500 is getting banged by some guy for free. But, you obviously don't think you are good enough for it.
 

Brill

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Dont be so cheap guys. You want quality, pay for quality.
Guys alone don't set the price as individuals, only collectively as the "market".

Are you finding yourself fairly busy?
If so, just raise your rates and get other quality SPs to join, you might find that you're right and you can get more even with tough times in other sectors because you're aiming at more successful people.

Or you'll find you're wrong, but you can always lower the price again. How many other industries have that kind of control?
 

LDfan

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jonnieJoytree said:
....250 dollars is way to low, men who can afford to see SP's should be paying 300 to 500 dollars to an agency or indy. ....Dont be so cheap guys. You want quality, pay for quality.
If that is what you think, do you regularly pay $300 - $500 for SPs that charge $250?
 

jetaudio789

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To carry on from a thread I posted in another area, I think SP's are under priced in this city, province and country.

250 dollars is way to low, men who can afford to see SP's should be paying 300 to 500 dollars to an agency or indy.

Okay, there are a few scanks out there who work cheap, and if you want to go to them and get crabs and other Std's thats your choice.

But the agency's dont hire cheap scanks, and with the independents, a picture is worth a thousand words. If she looks hot, she's hot. Unless its a bait and switch operation. 90% of the time, the women in the photo is the women you get when you open the door.

Like I mentioned before. Having sex all the time is hard on a womens body. She has to put a lot of money into personal care, and 150 to 200 dollars isnt going to give her that extra spending money she needs, assure her safety and provide transportation. Cabs alone cost a fortune to get from one place to another.

Dont be so cheap guys. You want quality, pay for quality.
Are you Tiger Woods ? feel free to give her a $500 for every hour you see her
 

LadyTY2Uall

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Unfortunately in this business we do have high stress and not just because of the physical risks involved in getting intimate with complete strangers There is no retirement plan except for what we can hide away after paying rent/mortgage, utility bills, food, necessities, advertising, insurance, clothing (the ones we wear while working), and even though manicures, pedicures and hair styling may sound like a luxury in this business it is a necessity.....IF we have even a few dollars left at the end of the month then we try to tuck it away for a rainy day. Most of us cannot work one week out of the month,,,,,we don't work when we are sick, we don't work if we are hurt, we don't work when the economy is bad and most of us have a very short 'shelf life'. Oh, let's not forget the ever increasing competition with new girls and lower rates......Nope we don't have much to be stressed about,,,,,
 

GDLLover

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Unfortunately in this business we do have high stress and not just because of the physical risks involved in getting intimate with complete strangers There is no retirement plan except for what we can hide away after paying rent/mortgage, utility bills, food, necessities, advertising, insurance, clothing (the ones we wear while working), and even though manicures, pedicures and hair styling may sound like a luxury in this business it is a necessity.....IF we have even a few dollars left at the end of the month then we try to tuck it away for a rainy day. Most of us cannot work one week out of the month,,,,,we don't work when we are sick, we don't work if we are hurt, we don't work when the economy is bad and most of us have a very short 'shelf life'. Oh, let's not forget the ever increasing competition with new girls and lower rates......Nope we don't have much to be stressed about,,,,,
So instead of these guys comparing SPs to a doctor, its more like a professional athlete. Not educated to be in the sport but must be very good at your craft, big bucks to compensate for short life span, public exposure issues and great chances of injury.
 

Jayzus

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Remember one thing, that pussy that you think is worth $500 is getting banged by some guy for free. But, you obviously don't think you are good enough for it.
Goddamn. Talk about kicking a man so hard in the nuts, his gonads smack his chin and knock his ass out.

I like your ballsy tell-it-as-it-is style.

I thought most girls (agency ones anyway) had a male transporter for safety?
 

freestuff

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I don't doubt being a SP is probably a very difficult job. I couldn't do it. I can't imagine having sex with fat, old, ugly women. Even $250/hr wouldn't be enough.
As for the question as whether they are being overpaid or underpaid, who knows? Everyone will have an opinion about that. What I do know is that SPs can set their own rates. Some set them low (i.e. Craiglist) and some set them high (i.e. Lace and Stilleto). If the SP thinks her time is worth more, then she's free to hike her rates.
So basically, I don't have anything insightful to add but I just want to thank SPs for being out there (and not charging $300+/hr).
 

eldoguy

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The sp profession is a sales job paid on commission! You only as good as your last sale. When the ecomony tanks, everybody is effected then everybody bites, the bullet, just like every service business. Consumers go to receive value! If not there is someone who will provide it. Or they stay away. We heard on Terb the stories, as is the clearing house of who makes it or doesn't. High end sp's whom I has the pleasure do not want to her about there reviews! My experience puts them on the defense.
 

CapitalGuy

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Are you totally stunned?
The OP, in her other posts, insists that it is illegal for an SP to accept payment after providing the service. It has to be provided at the start of the session or its illegal, says Ms. Joytree!!! "I'm calling the cops on you, girl. You fucked me before accepting payment - you're gonna get bus-ted!"

Asking her if she's stunned is a bit like asking the sun if it shines.
 

GotGusto

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The price is just right. This is one of those areas where the market really does determine price because it's completely unregulated by Big Brother.
 
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